Aug 26, 2026 BOS Regular Session

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MYSELF INCLUDED. ALL RIGHT. THIS MORNING, THE INVOCATION WILL BE OFFERED BY PASTOR BEN LEE OF LIVING WATERS BIBLE CHURCH, SAN TAN VALLEY AS PASTOR LEE HERE. OH, THAT IS YOU.

I SEE YOU'RE FAMILIAR. WHAT THE HECK? RIGHT? I SAID, WHY IS HE STANDING THERE? OKAY.

AND THOSE AND SOON AFTER THAT WILL BE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, LED BY SUPERVISOR VITIELLO AND THOSE WHO WISH TO PARTICIPATE.

PLEASE STAND. ALL RIGHT. LET US PRAY. MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, I JUST THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MEET TOGETHER.

AND I'M JUST ASKING FOR JUST A SUPERNATURAL PEACE OVER THIS MEETING, LORD, AS THERE'S AGENDAS AND TOPICS THAT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSED, I PRAY THAT YOUR PEACE WOULD REMAIN UPON EVERY HEART, LORD, THAT THERE WOULD BE CALMNESS IN SEND THIS PLACE, AND WE'D BE ABLE TO EXPRESS OUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS.

BUT LORD, OVER ALL THAT, YOU WOULD JUST COME IN HERE AND SOFTEN EVERY HEART.

FATHER, MAY THINGS BE HEARD AND SAID, AND MAY THERE BE PEACE IN THIS ROOM.

I THANK YOU FOR THE SUPERVISORS. THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE LIVING IN PINAL COUNTY, AND MAY YOU CONTINUE TO BLESS THIS COUNTY.

AND MAY WE BE SEEN AS AN INCREDIBLE COUNTY IN THE GREAT STATE OF ARIZONA.

WE THANK YOU IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME, JESUS. AMEN.

AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME IN ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING AUGUST 26TH, 2026.

WE'RE IN ORDER. SUPERVISOR MILLER ON THE PHONE.

MISS KENNEDY? YES, CHAIRMAN. YES I AM. YES YOU ARE.

THERE YOU ARE. OKAY. THANK YOU. LOUD AND CLEAR.

YES. FIVE BY FIVE. WE HEAR YOU. ALL RIGHT. FIRST ITEM UP IS ITEM ONE AND TWO.

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AND I WOULD JUST TELL EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS TODAY.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES. OKAY. BUT I WOULD JUST ADMONISH YOU THAT THIS IS NOT A FOOTBALL GAME.

SO NO CHEERING, NO CLAPPING, STOMPING OF FEET, ALL THAT STUFF THAT GOES ON.

IF YOU CAN JUST KEEP SOME DECORUM, I APPRECIATE IT.

YOU WILL GET A WARNING IF IT GETS A LITTLE OUT OF HAND.

MAYBE A SECOND WARNING. BUT THEN THE DEPUTIES WILL ESCORT YOU OUT AT THAT AT THE THIRD TIME.

EVERYBODY CLEAR? ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT THIS IS A HEARING AND DISCUSSION APPROVAL DISAPPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026PZ003-26. AND I HAVE MISS DZOKHAR, YOU'RE THE FIRST UP.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. AND BY THE WAY, WE'RE HEARING ITEM ONE AND TWO AT THE SAME TIME.

SO GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.

SANGEETA THAKUR PLANNING SUPERVISOR PRESENTING A CONTINUED CASE.

BZ00326 AND ZPD00326 IS THE ENERGY CENTER. THIS CASE WAS CONTINUED FROM MAY 27TH, 2026, AND I WILL RECAP SOME OF THE INFORMATION FOR THE CASE.

THE PROPOSAL ENTAILS TWO APPLICATIONS. ONE IS THE REZONE FOR 3385 ACRES FROM GENERAL RURAL TO INDUSTRIAL ZONING FOR 2393 ACRES AND 992 ACRES OF PROPOSED OPEN SPACE, A PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY TO MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE I3 INDUSTRIAL ZONING FOR THE SAME AREA LOCATION IS A LONG GREEN WASH OF SANTA CRUZ, WASH. SOUTH OF BAUMGARTNER ROAD, EAST OF 11 MILE CORNER SOUTH OF THE CITY OF ELOY.

THE SIZE IS AGAIN AS STATED, 3385 ACRES OF THE TOTAL PROJECT AREA.

LANDOWNER REPRESENTATIVE. WE HAVE FOUR LANDOWNERS AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

WE'RE. MORELAND OSR, I-10 SASCO 3700 LLC. CASAGRANDE S 3677 ACRES LLC AND WE HAVE ROCKLAND AGENT FROM LLC. THE APPLICANT AGENT WAS PRIOR QUOTED FROM ROSE LAW GROUP, WHO HAS BEEN CHANGED BY THE APPLICANT OWNER TO TAYLOR, EARL.

EARL AND CURLY. WE RECEIVED THIS LETTER ON 3RD AUGUST OF THIS MONTH.

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AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE RECEIVED 134 COMMENTS BY THE BOARD AND THE CASE WAS CONTINUED TO 26TH AUGUST, WHICH IS TODAY, 2026. COUNTY RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AS STATED EARLIER.

THE OWNER CHANGED THE APPLICANT FROM ROSE LAW GROUP TO EARL AND CURLY TAYLOR.

EARL IS PRESENT IN THE MEETING TODAY. PROPOSED ADDITIONAL 22 STIPULATIONS WERE ADDED TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY CONCERNS. THESE WERE SUBMITTED ON SEVENTH AND 14TH OF AUGUST.

ON 7TH OF AUGUST WE RECEIVED 19 STIPULATIONS.

ADDITIONAL THREE STIPULATIONS ADDED. ON 14TH OF AUGUST, THE DATA CENTER BUILDINGS WERE REDUCED FROM 59 TO 11 BUILDINGS.

UNDER THE STIPULATION, 34 STAFF DID NOT RECEIVE ANY DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR ANY CHANGES TO REVIEW TILL DATE.

ADDITIONAL 22 STIPULATIONS THAT WERE REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT HAVE NOT BEEN REVIEWED BY PINAL COUNTY STAFF OR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. ON TWO OF THOSE DATES. SO IN FRONT OF THE BOARD, THERE ARE TOTAL 55 STIPULATIONS SHARED FOR CONSIDERATION AS EXHIBIT C OF THE PCPD 00326 ORDINANCE.

JUST TO GIVE A PERSPECTIVE, DATA CENTERS IS A NEW USE AND IS NOT DEFINED CURRENTLY IN THE I3 ZONING DESIGNATION IN THE PINELLAS COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CODE FOR ITS FUNCTIONAL USE OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS WHICH INCLUDES THE WATER, SOIL, SOUND, WILDLIFE HABITAT, INFRASTRUCTURE DEMANDS AND THE IMPACT TO THE IMMEDIATE COMMUNITIES. I3 COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING ZONINGS AFTER 27TH OF MAY, STAFF HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY UPDATED DOCUMENTS BESIDES THE DIRECT STIPULATIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED ON SEVENTH AND 14TH.

UP TO DATE, STAFF HAS RECEIVED 282 LETTERS OF OPPOSITION AND 19 EMAILS FOR SUPPORT FOR THE ENERGY CENTER. THE NUMBER THAT HAS BEEN STATED ON THE POWERPOINT IN FRONT OF YOU IS WHEN THIS WAS SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD TEN DAYS BACK WHEN WE UPLOADED THAT ON THE AGENDA.

ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION IS THE MAYOR, ANDREW STANTON CHANGED HIS STANCE FROM SUPPORT TO THE DENIAL. AND THAT IS BEING UNDER THE 282 NUMBER OF STIPULATIONS THAT HAVE, OH, SORRY. NUMBER OF OPPOSITION THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED.

THESE ARE THE STIPULATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION STARTING FROM 34 TO 55 THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE BOARD. AND JUST UP FOR ANY DISCUSSION.

WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ALSO FROM THE APPLICANT, AND I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS OF NOW.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YEAH I DO.

ONE IN PARTICULAR. THANK YOU CHAIR. BACK TO THE I.

THREE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE DATA CENTERS. SO THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE CHANGED AS WELL AT SOME POINT.

THAT'S CORRECT. THIS HAPPENS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE'VE SEEN 33 STIPULATIONS.

WE DON'T DO STIPULATIONS HERE. WE DON'T DO THEM AT THE BOARD LEVEL.

THAT GETS DONE IN PLANNING AND ZONING. SO MY PERSONAL FEELING IS THAT WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE CASE THAT WAS PRESENTED ON MAY 27TH.

THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. SO THE OTHERS ARE THEY'RE NICE.

BUT YES, STAFF HAS NOT HAD THE CHANCE TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW DONE BY ALL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN PINAL COUNTY.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE JUST SHARED. SO WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE CASE CONTINUED FROM MAY 27TH.

AND NOT ALL THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD.

YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MISS STOKER. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. CHAIRMAN HUGHES.

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THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID NOT SEE THE OTHER STIPULATIONS.

NOR HAS THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM.

THEY ARE. THEY HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. IT IS WITHIN THE BOARD'S DISCRETION IF THEY WANT TO CONSIDER IT.

AND TYPICALLY WE DO NOT DO THAT, NOT PROHIBIT IT FROM.

BUT IT'S WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION IF YOU WANT TO. THANK YOU.

SORRY I COULDN'T I COULDN'T FIGURE WHO WAS TALKING TO ME. OKAY.

WITH THAT, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE.

MR.. I'M SORRY, MR. CURLEY. I'M GOING TO GUESS, MR. EARL. OH, OKAY. WELL, I HAD A 5050, YOU KNOW.

SO YOU COULD GO EITHER WAY WITH HIS NAME. THAT'S TRUE.

MY NAME COULD GO EITHER WAY. AND TRUTH BE TOLD, THE EARL IS ACTUALLY MY FATHER.

SO I'M NOT EVEN IN THE LETTERHEAD. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

OH, YOU'RE JUST FINE. BOARD CHAIR. MY NAME IS TAYLOR EARL WITH THE LAW FIRM OF EARL AND CURLEY.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY. AND ALSO SUPERVISOR MILLER, WHO IS ON THE PHONE.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THIS, A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT INPUT.

AND SO WE'RE FULLY COGNIZANT OF THAT. WE KNOW THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE TODAY.

CHAIR, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO JUST ADDRESS UP FRONT THE INITIAL COMMENT.

SO OUR FIRM IS, IS WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE MAY HEARING.

I'VE CERTAINLY VIEWED THAT HEARING, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT WAS THE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD WAS TO TO WORK OUT SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE SAYING.

LOOK, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THESE THINGS, BUT WE HAVEN'T COMMITTED TO DOING THESE THINGS. AND SO OUR EFFORT WAS TO GO THEN THEREFORE AND STIPULATE TO THOSE THINGS. AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHEN THAT HEARING SHOULD COME BACK.

AND SO OUR EFFORT WAS TO GO FORWARD AND SAY, OKAY, WE HAD PLANNED ON DOING SOME THINGS AND LET'S MAKE SURE THOSE ARE STIPULATED, BUT THEN ALSO LET'S GO AHEAD AND ADD ADDITIONAL STIPULATIONS.

WE, WE HEARD THE COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

WE ALSO WATCHED THE STUDY SESSION THAT THE BOARD HAD AND SAID, OKAY, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND ADD THOSE IN. SO OUR EFFORT WAS TO RESPOND TO THE LAST HEARING REGARDING.

WE WANT TO SEE SOME THINGS BE CEMENTED IN AND LOCKED IN.

IT'S AS WAS JUST STATED, IS WITHIN THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD.

AND SO WHAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT TODAY IS THE CASE THAT WE ARE OFFERING WITH ALL OF THE STIPULATIONS THAT I THINK WAS FULLY WITHIN THE BOARD TO TO APPROVE WITH THOSE STIPULATIONS THAT WE'VE OFFERED UP.

AND THAT IS, THAT IS THE CASE THAT WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD. WE THINK THAT WAS THE DIRECTION THAT WE THOUGHT THE MAJORITY VOTED FOR IN THE MAY HEARING WAS TO BRING BACK ADDITIONAL REGULATION, NOT JUST COME BACK WITH THE SAME CASE.

I THINK OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE HAD A VOTE IN MAY, BUT RATHER COME BACK WITH A REVISED VERSION OF THE CASE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE DONE. SO TO BE VERY CLEAR, WHAT WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE SEEKING? WE KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IS EXACTLY THAT THEY ARE, THEY ARE GOING FOR.

SO WE ARE SEEKING A REZONE FROM GENERAL RURAL TO INDUSTRIAL.

I THREE THAT'S FOR 2393 ACRES AND THEN PROPOSED OPEN SPACE FOR.

992. SO THERE ARE TWO ZONING CATEGORIES WITHIN OUR REQUEST.

TO, TO JUST BE CLEAR TO SUPERVISOR GOODMAN'S QUESTION AND STAFF CAN CERTAINLY CLARIFY THE I3 CURRENTLY DOES NOT ALLOW FOR DATA CENTERS, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A P D OVERLAY, WHICH IS HOW WE ADD THAT USE IN SO.

SO I THINK MAYBE YOU WERE ASKING A QUESTION WOULD.

OKAY, SO THIS WOULD HAPPEN TODAY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK OR MAYBE WE'D HAVE TO MODIFY THAT IN THE FUTURE. THIS ENTITLEMENT TODAY AS PRESENTED WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DATA CENTER USE. IT'S JUST THAT THE CORE I3 DOES NOT ITSELF TODAY ALLOW IT.

YOU HAVE TO ADD THE PAD TO ADD THE USE, WHICH IS WHY THE PAD PRIMARILY THE PURPOSE OF THE PAD.

SO TARGETED USES DATA CENTERS. WE HAVE CAPPED WITHIN THE STIPULATION AT 11 BUILDINGS POWER GENERATION.

WE'VE CAPPED THAT AS WELL AT 1000MW OR 1GW. THOSE ARE SYNONYMOUS BATTERY STORAGE AND ASSOCIATED OFFICE FACILITIES.

THAT'S REALLY THE TARGET. THERE IS ALSO ALLOWANCE FOR MANUFACTURING WITHIN THE PAD.

SO HERE'S THE LAND USE PLAN. I THINK THERE WAS SOME MAYBE SOME MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THERE HAD A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN HAD BEEN SHOWN.

AND SOMETIMES WHEN WE SHOW CONCEPTUAL SITE PLANS, IT'S VERY UNDERSTANDABLE THAT SOMEBODY WOULD SAY, WELL, THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE THESE ARE GOING TO GO.

AND CONCEPTUAL IS JUST THAT THAT IS CONCEPTUAL IS A WAY WHERE IT COULD GO, AND I'LL SHOW SOME CONCEPTUAL SITE PLANS TO GIVE A SENSE OF WHERE THINGS COULD BE LOCATED.

BUT I WANTED TO SHOW THIS EXHIBIT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, TWO CATEGORIES. BASICALLY, YOU HAVE OPEN SPACE AND THEN YOU HAVE DEVELOPABLE AREA.

AND WHAT WE'RE SEEKING FOR IS THESE, THESE DATA CENTER USES, THE OTHER USES WOULD BE WITHIN THE DEVELOPABLE AREA OF THE SITE.

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PREVIOUSLY, THERE WAS 59 DATA CENTERS THAT WERE BEING PROPOSED.

AND PART OF OUR REVISED PROPOSAL IS TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 11.

SO AS STAFF MENTIONED, WE APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, HER PRESENTATION.

SO WE WE SUBMITTED 19 ADDITIONAL STIPULATIONS ON THE 7TH OF AUGUST.

AND AGAIN, THESE WERE DESIGNED TO, TO, TO COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT CASE, NOT JUST COME BACK WITH THE SAME CASE, BUT TO PROVIDE SOME STIPULATIONS AND SOME THINGS THAT HAD BEEN STATED BUT WEREN'T SPECIFICALLY STIPULATED TO.

AND SO WE DID THAT. AND THEN FOLLOWING THE STUDY SESSION AND ADDITIONAL SORT OF TALKING AS A TEAM, WE REALIZED THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAD PUT UP FORWARD THAT WE WEREN'T SUPER CLEAR IN THE STIPULATION.

SO WE DID SOME REDLINING OF THOSE AND RESUBMITTED ON, ON THOSE.

AND THEN ALSO WE ADDED THREE ADDITIONAL STIPULATIONS.

AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN IN THE STAFF REPORT TODAY IS THOSE 55 THAT ARE AGAIN, WITH THESE LITTLE REVISIONS AND CORRECTIONS.

AND THEN ALSO THE THREE ADDITIONAL. SO WE BELIEVE THAT AS NOW PRESENTED, THIS IS HIGHLY STIPULATED.

SO WE HAVE THE CAP ON THE DATA CENTER BUILDINGS, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN MAY, THAT COURT RICK MENTIONED THAT WE WOULD REDUCE THE PROJECT THAT'S NOW BEEN PROPOSED, PROPOSED AS A STIPULATION.

SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE REGULATED. I KNOW SOMETIMES THERE'S A CONFUSION ABOUT, WELL, COULD THEY JUST DO 11? AND THEN JUST ADMINISTRATIVELY THEY COULD JUST DO MORE.

AND THE ANSWER IS NO. A STIPULATION IS PART OF THE ZONING ENTITLEMENT.

IT'S A CONDITION OF ENTITLEMENT. AND SO IT IS PART OF THE APPROVAL AS WE'VE PROPOSED.

IT WOULD BE NO. THOSE ARE 11 BUILDINGS. IF ANY MORE ANYBODY WANTED MORE, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS LIKE LIKE THIS.

SO THEN ALSO, OKAY, WHAT ABOUT THE SIZE OF THOSE BUILDINGS? WE'VE CAPPED THE SIZE OF THOSE BUILDINGS. WE HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT POWER GENERATION AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT WASN'T BEING PUT ON TO OTHER RESIDENTS.

AND SO WE HAVE A STIPULATION REGARDING THAT, THAT FUNDING OF INTERCONNECTION CAPACITY IS PART OF OUR STIPULATION SET AS WELL.

SO WE BEAR ALL THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE POWER.

WE MADE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR. AND THEN ALSO WE CAPPED THE AMOUNT OF WATER.

WE KNOW THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. PART OF THAT IS THROUGH TWO THINGS.

NUMBER ONE IS, IS THE USING THE CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM FOR THE DATA CENTER COOLING, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE NOT JUST HAVING CONSTANT WATER COMING THROUGH THAT WATER STAYS WITHIN THE SYSTEM. AND THEN ALSO, WE JUST CAPPED THE ENTIRE WATER USAGE OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT, INCLUDING THE, THE POWER FACILITY. SO THAT'S BEEN CAPPED NOW AT 600 ACRE FEET ANNUALLY.

AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE ADDITIONAL STIPULATION AS WELL.

SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I DID NOT I WANTED TO SHOW SOMETHING WHERE WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.

IT IS A CONCEPTUAL. I MEAN, THESE WERE EXHIBITS THAT WERE PRESENTED EARLIER.

OF COURSE, WE'VE TAKEN THE NUMBER FROM, YOU KNOW, 59 TO 11, BUT LET'S SAY WE HAD THE 11.

THIS IS A POTENTIAL OF WHERE YOU COULD SEE HOW YOU COULD SEE.

11 PLAY OUT ON THE SITE. THERE'S A LITTLE KEY MAP IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT WHERE SHOWS OF THE ENTIRE ACREAGE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE PUTTING THEM ALL IN THIS LOCATION, THAT'S ONE WAY THAT IT POTENTIALLY COULD LAY OUT.

DID THE SAME THING HERE FOR THE GAS POWER GENERATION.

IF THE GIGAWATT OF GENERATION WERE IN THIS LOCATION.

YOU CAN SEE THE KEY MAPS ARE THERE IN THE MIDDLE.

THIS IS MY HOW THAT MIGHT LAY OUT. AND THEN IF WE WERE TO SORT OF HAVE THEM SORT OF CLOSE TOGETHER, IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE THIS. AND THEN AND THEN CANDIDLY, HERE'S ANOTHER WAY THAT THIS POTENTIALLY COULD LAY OUT IS THAT YOU HAVE THIS ENTIRE ACREAGE AND YOU MAY HAVE A FEW BUILDINGS HERE, A FEW HERE, AND A FEW THERE SORT OF SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH THE SITE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO YOU KNOW, RELATED TO GEOTECHNICAL.

AND SO THIS PROVIDES US AMPLE SPACE IN ORDER TO FIND THE BEST LOCATION.

SO WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO THE TRANSMISSION LINES THAT RUN RIGHT THROUGH THE SITE.

ALSO THE MAIN GAS PIPELINE THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE SITE.

AND SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE HEAR CONCERNS ABOUT DATA CENTERS BEING RIGHT IN URBAN AREAS OR SUBURBAN AREAS.

AND I GUESS THE SORT OF IMPLICIT STATEMENT IS, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT RIGHT HERE NEXT TO THIS SUBDIVISION? RIGHT. LET'S PUSH IT OUT. WELL, THIS IS A LOCATION THAT IS OUT INTO THE.

INTO AN AREA THAT'S NOT HIGHLY POPULATED. WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT.

I KNOW THAT SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORS A COUPLE I SPOKE WITH IN THE HALLWAY HAVE COME TODAY.

AND IF THEY'RE ABLE TO STAY AND GIVE THEIR TESTIMONY, THEY WILL REGARDING THEIR SUPPORT AS PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE ADJACENT AREA.

AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S FOLKS THAT ARE, THAT ARE OPPOSED AND YOU'LL HEAR FROM THEM AS WELL.

BUT I KNOW THAT OFTEN WHEN I BRING ZONING CASES IF I HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROJECT, THOSE ARE VOICES THAT REALLY MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND IT'S INCUMBENT ON US AS A FIRM TO MAKE THAT OUTREACH AND TRY TO GET THAT SUPPORT AND HEAR

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AND SO WE WE LEARNED OF THAT WE, WE HAD REACHED OUT TO THIS INDIVIDUAL PREVIOUSLY BUT WE WENT AHEAD AND ADDED IN A STIPULATION. SO THIS IS ONE THAT IS NOT BEEN SUBMITTED VIA THE LETTERS BECAUSE THIS WAS SORT OF LATE BREAKING.

AND SO THIS IS A STIPULATION THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE ALSO BE ADDED.

AND AT THE TIME OF ANY MOTION WE COULD COME BACK TO THIS, BUT, BUT THE WAY THIS WOULD WORK IS THAT WE BASICALLY PUT IN TWO BUFFERS.

NUMBER ONE IS A SETBACK FOR BUILDINGS FOR THE SORRY, I SHOULD SAY, FOR THE DATA CENTER BUILDINGS OR POWER GENERATION BUILDINGS.

AND ANY ACCESSORY BUILDINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE WOULD BE 200FT FROM THIS PROPERTY LINE.

AND THEN ALSO THAT WE WOULD HAVE A 30 FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE TRACT WHERE WE HAVE TREES 20FT ON CENTER TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS, IS, IS, IS BUFFERED. THIS WAS SHOWN IN THE PRIVATE IN PREVIOUS HEARING, BUT I THINK IT'S VALUABLE TO TALK ABOUT KIND OF WHAT I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WHICH WAS YOU HAVE A SITE THAT IS NOT NEAR TO HIGHLY POPULATED AREAS.

AND SO WE THINK ABOUT, OKAY, WELL, WHERE WOULD, WHERE WOULD WE LOCATE DATA CENTERS? AND I THINK THAT WE FOUND AN ASSEMBLAGE OF PROPERTY HERE THAT NOT ONLY HAS A LOT OF ACREAGE, BUT ALSO IS IN AN AREA THAT'S NOT RIGHT INTO A CITY CENTER.

AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A REALLY GREAT LOCATION FOR THIS.

OF COURSE, UTILITIES BECOME A CHALLENGE AS YOU GO FURTHER OUT.

BUT THAT'S WE WE BEAR THE COST OF THAT. AND WE'VE PUT THAT STIPULATION IN TO SAY THAT WITH REGARD TO THE BUILD UP OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND THOSE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO BEAR. I KNOW THAT THERE'S FOLKS HERE FROM FROM RED ROCK.

I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE CONTEXT TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE AREA AND IN THE AREAS IN BETWEEN IS I THINK THIS, THIS BACKDROP MATTERS. THESE ARE SOME OF THE C TWO ZONING DISTRICT THAT IS SORT OF IN BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS VALUABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ZONING IS THERE TODAY AND HOW THAT AREA WILL DEVELOP.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE SORT OF THE TIP OF THE SPEAR IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, BUT WE THINK THAT OTHER INDUSTRIAL ZONING ALREADY EXISTS IN THAT AREA.

THAT WOULD REALLY BE BETWEEN OUR PROJECT AND THAT ONE.

SO I WALKED THROUGH THIS AS WELL. A LOT OF WE'VE HAD A LOT OF VOTES ON THIS PROJECT.

SOME OF THEM WERE THROUGH THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH ISN'T THE EXACT SAME THING AS THE ZONING, BUT IT WAS DONE IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS CASE. AND SO WE HAD THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THEN ULTIMATELY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THEN TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WHICH WAS APPROVED. AND THEN WE WENT BACK THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS.

SO THEY HAVE TO BE DONE SEQUENTIALLY. AND WE RECEIVED A POSITIVE VOTE OF 7 TO 2 WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN APRIL, OF COURSE, CAME HERE IN MAY, AND WE'RE CONTINUED TO TODAY, BUT A LOT OF VOTES IN FAVOR.

THIS WAS THE APPROVED COMP PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WAS DONE. AND SO THIS IS ALREADY DONE.

THIS IS ALREADY APPROVED. THIS IS ALREADY WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOW.

CAN I INTERJECT? ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH, PLEASE.

THROW YOU OFF. OKAY. I'M HAPPY TO. WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE.

OKAY. DATA CENTERS. WHEN WE DID THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OBVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T CONSIDER DATA CENTERS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK AT THAT TIME DATA CENTERS WAS EVEN ON OUR RADAR FOR ANY PURPOSES OR ANYTHING ELSE OF THAT NATURE.

THE REASON WHY I MAKE THAT STATEMENT IS BECAUSE EVEN OUR OWN I3 DOESN'T INCLUDE DATA CENTERS.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT AWARE THAT WHEN WE DID ALL THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DATA CENTER, IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDERED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT OUT.

SO THANK YOU. OKAY. SO AGAIN, SUPPORT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FOR THIS PROJECT.

I THINK THESE ARE THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT. AND I KNOW INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HERE THAT WILL THAT WILL SPEAK.

BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS. AND I WILL ALSO HIGHLIGHT TOO, THAT THE THE, THE INDICATION WE RECEIVED FROM MAYOR OF ELOY HAD MENTIONED THAT, HEY, WE WANT WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS WE'RE APPROVING? WHAT IS THE, WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS? NOT ENOUGH IS KNOWN ON IT.

AND IT SEEMED PRETTY CLEAR TO US. HE DID NOT HAVE A COPY OF THE STIPULATIONS THAT WE HAD ALREADY SUBMITTED AT THAT POINT.

AND IT WAS SORT OF THE SIMILAR CONCERNS WE HEARD IN MAY, WHICH IS THAT, HEY, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE APPROVING. WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? AND SO WE DID PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THE MAYOR.

SO IN TERMS OF SIZE AND SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

SO AGAIN, THESE ARE THE STIPULATIONS. I JUST WANT TO WALK THROUGH THOSE. SO AGAIN, CAPPED ON A CAP ON THE DATA CENTER BUILDINGS AT 11 PLUS THE ANCILLARY STRUCTURES

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WE HAVE STIPULATED THAT WE WOULD ONLY USE A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM.

AND SO THAT'S EFFECTIVELY WHAT. OOPS. LET ME GO BACK.

IN PREVIOUS CASES THAT I PROCESSED IN A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION, THAT WAS THE KEY STIPULATION THAT WAS NEGOTIATED WITH STAFF WAS TO NOT USE A WATER CHILLED SYSTEM. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ONE.

IT IS TRUE THAT DATA CENTERS HAVE GONE IN THAT DIRECTION. AND SO THAT'S WE'VE VETTED THE TECHNOLOGY.

SO WE KNOW THAT IT'S VIABLE. BUT THAT IS SIGNIFICANT.

AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE USAGE OF DATA CENTERS AND THE USAGE OF WATER, THEY'RE REFERRING TO WHEN IT'S USING A WATER BASED SYSTEM.

BUT WHEN IT'S USING A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM, THAT WATER CAN STAY IN THE SYSTEM.

PEOPLE ESTIMATE DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF TIME. WE'VE HEARD 5 TO 7.

WE'VE HEARD EVEN LONGER. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID 2 TO 3 YEARS IN WHICH THAT WATER STAYS IN THE SYSTEM, BUT THE POINT IS THAT IT'S NOT A SYSTEM THAT'S CONSTANTLY CHURNING WATER LIKE SOME OF THE THE OTHER COOLING SYSTEMS HAD HAD HAD BEEN DONE FOR MANY YEARS.

AND SO THIS IS A NEWER TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE STIPULATING TO OTHER DATA CENTERS HAVE SIMPLY DONE IT, AND WE'RE STIPULATING TO THAT. SO NO EVAPORATIVE COOLING, NO COOLING TOWERS, NO PLUMES.

OUR ESTIMATE IS THAT THE 11 BUILDINGS COMBINED WOULD BE LOOKING AT TWO ACRE FEET OF WATER PER YEAR.

SO THE DATA CENTER BUILDINGS WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM WOULD NOT BE WOULD BE VERY MINOR WATER USES.

SO YOU'RE SAYING 600 ACRE FEET, BUT YOU'RE SAYING TWO ACRE FEET.

YEAH. SO THE ACRE FEET REALLY THE 600 ACRE FEET WOULD BE FOR THE POWER GENERATION FACILITIES IS GOING TO BE THE PRIMARY USER OF THE WATER, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THOUGHT ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IF IT WAS 600 AND THEN THE DATA CENTERS WAS ON TOP OF THAT.

AND WE SAID, NO, LET'S JUST MAKE IT 600 ACROSS THE BOARD SO THAT OUR DATA CENTERS FALL UNDER THAT 600 AS WELL.

SO THE POWER GENERATION AND THE DATA CENTERS WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE UNDER THAT 600 FOR FOR REFERENCE, I'M SORRY YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO TRY TO GENERATE ONE GIGAWATT.

CORRECT. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR THE GENERATION TYPE? SO WE DO. AND I'VE ALSO GOT ROB KLANG HERE WHO CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO SOME OF THE POWER ISSUES, BUT WE DO. SO IT WOULD BE GAS TURBINES, GAS TURBINES, THE THE PEAKER PLANTS.

THIS IS WHERE IT GETS BEYOND BOARD I'VE. THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE AND ROB'S BEEN PART OF OUR TEAM THAT'S DONE A LOT OF THAT WORK.

AND, AND THERE'S BEEN QUITE A BIT INTO THAT TOO. AND SO IT'S NOT JUST SPECULATIVE.

WE HAVE COMMITMENTS FROM TURBINE PROVIDERS. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK INTO IT.

IT'S JUST THAT WE'VE SORT OF DIVIDED IT UP. AND HE CAN SPEAK INTO MORE SPECIFICS OF THAT.

BUT THAT IS THE SYSTEM THAT WE'D BE USING WITH THE NATURAL GAS LINE THAT WE HAVE NEARBY.

IT'S SORT OF A NATURAL FIT THAT WE WOULD USE THAT AND THAT.

AND WE HAVE, AGAIN, STIPULATIONS RELATED TO THAT.

BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THAT WOULD PROVIDE BOTH A BRIDGE TO GETTING ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE INSTALLED TO THE EXTENT THAT WE NEED THAT IN ORDER TO GET TO GET STARTED. WE THINK THERE ARE SOME CAPACITY THAT ARE AVAILABLE TODAY TO GET STARTED, BUT THEN ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THIS THIS ON SITE POWER GENERATION PROVIDES THAT BRIDGE.

AND THEN IT ALSO PROVIDES BACKUP POWER IN CASES OF SURGES OR USES OF THE GRID.

AND WE HAVE AN ON SITE GENERATION. SO IT'S SIMILAR TO THE SUNRIDGE PLANT THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED BY THE BOARD.

IT WOULD BE A GAS GENERATION FACILITY. BUT AGAIN, WE'VE CAPPED THE GENERATION CAPACITY AT A GIGAWATT SO THAT THERE IS AN ACTUAL LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF GENERATION THAT WE WOULD USE, AND THEN ALSO A LIMIT ON THE ASSOCIATED WATER, WHICH WOULD NOT ONLY CAP THE POWER GENERATION WATER, BUT ALSO THE DATA CENTER WATER AS WELL. SO THIS IS A LETTER THAT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM DEREK MCKERNAN MCKERNAN, WHO IS ALSO THE GENERAL MANAGER OF ED4 AND FROM CADE, SAID, I'M PLEASED THAT THE PROJECT WILL BE BOUND TO USE A CLOSED LOOP COOLING SYSTEM THAT ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR ACTIVE WATER USE FOR COOLING. THESE MODERN CENTERS THAT ARE DESIGNED THIS WAY USE FAR LESS WATER THAN OTHER USES THAT COULD GO IN THESE LOCATIONS.

SO AGAIN, THE AIR CHILLED OR SORT OF CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS ARE INCREASINGLY BEING USED.

METRO PHOENIX'S NEWEST CAMPUSES ARE BUILT AROUND AIR COOLED, CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS. THEY USE, AGAIN, VERY LITTLE WATER AND APPROXIMATELY HALF AGAINST SOME OF THE WATER THAT I MENTIONED IS ALSO FROM BATHROOMS AND OTHER USES LIKE THAT. SO IT'S ALL BEING INCLUDED. AND THEN THIS IS A STATISTIC THAT WE RECEIVED TWO FROM AN AIR COOLED CHANDLER CAMPUS, ABOUT A HALF ACRE FOOT PER YEAR, TOTAL WATER USE AT A 2,000,000 SQUARE FOOT CAMPUS.

SO THAT'S AGAIN, NOT VERY MUCH, ESPECIALLY WITH OTHER INDUSTRIAL USES THAT COULD GO INTO THAT SPOT.

AND THEN WE SORT OF NOTED FIVE MAJOR DATA CENTERS IN ARIZONA THAT ARE NOW USING THIS TECHNOLOGY.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS A TECHNOLOGY THAT'S COMING OUT.

WE'RE SIMPLY STIPULATING TO IT. BUT EXCUSE ME, BUT SO LOOKING AT THAT.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE A POWER GENERATION PLANT ON SITE.

SO THAT'S A TO ME THAT'S A BIT MISLEADING BECAUSE THAT'S JUST MERELY THE DATA CENTER, NOT THE POWER GENERATION MIXED IN WITH IT.

CORRECT. SO I WAS REALLY FOCUSING ON. YEAH, I DIDN'T MEAN YOU'RE, YOU'RE MIXING APPLES AND ORANGES AND WE'RE COMING OUT WITH A FRUIT SALAD HERE.

SO, SO SO WITH REGARD TO THE DATA CENTERS, BY USING THE CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM, THEY'RE NOT A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTOR TO THAT ACRE FEET THAT WE ARE,

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AND WE'LL JUST EVEN FOLD IT UNDER THE CAP THAT WE WERE PROPOSING FOR THE POWER GENERATION FACILITY.

WE'LL PUT IT ALL UNDER THE 600 ACRE FEET SO THAT IT'S NOT 600 PLUS.

IT'S 600 CAP ACROSS ACROSS THE BOARD. OKAY. BUT LIKE I SAY THAT THAT'S A LITTLE MISLEADING WHEN YOU SAY, OH, THIS DATA CENTER USES THAT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ENTIRE CAMPUS OF THESE THINGS, AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE YOUR OWN POWER AND YOU CAN USE THIS MUCH WATER. AND YOU SAY, OH, BUT LOOK, IT'S ONLY LESS THAN 2 MILLION SQUARE, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER, HALF AN ACRE FOOT A YEAR. BUT I THINK WHAT HE'S DOING IS HE'S TRYING TO BREAK IT DOWN, BUT THEN ALSO PUT THE CAP AT 600 ACRE FEET, WHICH IS CONSIDERING SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE IN COMPARISON IN FARMING.

SOMEBODY'S GROWN COTTON. IT COULD BE 2 OR 300 ACRES AND THEY COULDN'T.

AND THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT'S EQUIVALENT TO IN FARMING.

OKAY. MR. CHAIR, THIS IS ALSO THIS DATA CENTER WOULD BE 4,000,000FT² PLUS THE GENERATION.

SO AGAIN, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE.

SO BUT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE 600 ACRE FEET INCLUDES ALL OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE GENERATION.

CORRECT. IT WOULD BE THE DATA CENTER BUILDINGS.

IT WOULD BE THE POWER GENERATION. IT'S ALL ALL WITHIN THAT CAP.

OKAY. OKAY. AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S NONE BEING USED BECAUSE THERE'S JUST A BUNCH OF COWS WALKING AROUND.

SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT. SURE, SURE. AND I THINK THAT'S SO, SO ALSO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE IF YOU HAD HOMES, RIGHT. BASED ON THE CALCULATIONS, YOU'D BE AT SOMETHING LIKE LESS THAN A ONE DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE.

IT WOULD BE THE DENSITY IF YOU WERE TO CALCULATE IT OUT OF WHAT A HOME WOULD USE AND WHAT THE ADW NOTES.

YOU CALCULATE THAT OUT AND SORT OF ADJACENT TO US, THE THE GENERAL PLAN OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION IS 1 TO 3.5.

AND IF YOU WERE TO CALCULATE THIS OUT ON A HOME SCALE. OKAY. WELL, HOW MANY IS 600 ACRE FEET? HOW DOES THAT TRANSLATE INTO HOMES? AND YOU CALCULATE THAT OUT ON A, ON A DENSITY YOU.

OUR MATH SHOWS THAT UNDER THE ADW, SORT OF WHAT THEY SAY CAN BE CALCULATE UNDER AN ACRE FOOT PER YEAR OF HOMES, YOU'D ACTUALLY BE AT LESS THAN ONE UNIT PER ACRE.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE OF IF THIS LAND WERE TO BE DEVELOPED AS HOMES WHICH NOBODY REALLY COMPLAINS ABOUT WATER USAGE OF HOMES.

YOU KNOW, IF I BRING A ZONING CASE FOR HOMES, I DON'T TYPICALLY GET A LOT OF PUSHBACK ON WATER USAGE.

AND YET WE'D BE LOOKING AT THE ROUGH EQUIVALENT OF LESS THAN A DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE WITH THE AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT YOU WOULD CALCULATE UNDER THAT SAME 600 ACRE FEET.

SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT A AMOUNT OF WATER, BUT I'M SAYING ROUGHLY TO DEVELOPMENT DOES USE WATER.

AND I THINK BY CAPPING IT, WE'VE MADE IT SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING THE DATA CENTER USES MUCH, MUCH HIGHER ON TOP OF THE POWER GENERATION. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WAS BEING.

THE CRITIQUE THAT WE HAD BEFORE WAS THAT, HEY, THAT DATA CENTERS USE A LOT OF WATER FOR THEIR COOLING, WHICH CAN BE TRUE IF YOU USE A WATER BASED SYSTEM.

BUT BY PUTTING IN A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM, YOU BRING IT DOWN.

SO, MR. CHAIR, GO AHEAD. OKAY, SO THERE'S NO FARMING OPERATIONS AT ALL ANYWHERE IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW.

IT'S ALL CATTLE ON THE SUBJECT SITE. THIS IS IT'S CATTLE RANCHING, RIGHT? IT'S RANCHING. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T TAKE SHOWERS.

SO THEY'RE NOT USING WATER. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING, JUST SAYING THE RANCHER DOESN'T OR THE CATTLE DON'T.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE RANCHER, BUT CATTLE DON'T. GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY. YOU'RE FINE. STIPULATION 36. WE TALKED ABOUT COMPLIANCE WITH WATER USE CONTROLS, SO MUST COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE WATER USE REGULATIONS, SERVICE AGREEMENTS. AGAIN, WE WANTED TO BAKE THAT INTO THE RECORD TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THERE ARE OTHER REGULATIONS THAT MUST BE FOLLOWED IN THIS PROCESS, AND THIS WOULD BAKE THAT RIGHT INTO THE ZONING APPROVAL.

AND THEN ALSO COOLING TECHNOLOGY DISCLOSURE TO THE COUNTY BEFORE ANY DATA CENTER OR BATTERY STORAGE BUILDING IS PERMITTED.

SO WE'RE DISCLOSING WHAT THE COOLING TECHNOLOGY WOULD BE USED TO THE COUNTY PRIOR TO THAT.

38 TALKS ABOUT CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM. AGAIN, BATTERY AND BATTERY STORAGE FOR DATA CENTERS, ALL CAPPED AT 600 NET ACRE FEET PER YEAR.

POTABLE WATER. THERE'S A POTENTIAL THERE FOR USE OF EFFLUENT TO REDUCE WATER USAGE.

AND THEN THERE'S AN ANNUAL WATER DEMAND USAGE REPORT PUBLISHED ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE.

SO THIS WAS ALSO STATED FROM FROM DEREK MCGURKIN, THE GENERAL MANAGER OF KITE, SAID FURTHER, EVEN THE PREDICTED 600 ACRE FEET OF WATER TO BE USED FOR THE GAS GENERATION WILL BE EASILY ACCOMMODATED BY OUR DISTRICT.

THE WATER BASIN IN THE AREA HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY HEALTHY AND MAINTAIN WATER LEVELS THAT ALLOW FOR EASY ACCESS AND AMPLE USE.

WE BELIEVE THE AQUIFER CAN EASILY ACCOMMODATE THIS USE.

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ONE SECOND HERE. SO THE ELECTRICAL SERVICE IN THIS CASE WOULD COME FROM 84. SO WE HAVE WE'VE DONE THREE EXTENSIVE INTERCONNECTION STUDIES ALREADY.

SO IT IS TRUE. AND YOU'LL HEAR ME SAY THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF STUDIES THAT THAT COME AFTER THE ZONING PROCESS.

THIS IS PART OF PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THROUGH OF EVERY DEVELOPMENT.

I DO THAT, THEY DO THAT. THERE'S ENGINEERING THAT COMES AFTER THE ZONING ENTITLEMENT.

AND SO THAT'S TRUE HERE. HOWEVER, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE WERE EXTENSIVE INTERCONNECTION STUDIES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED WITH 84.

AND I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT. AND SO I WANTED TO PAUSE HERE AND HIGHLIGHT THIS BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S BEEN CONCERN THAT, WELL, WHAT ABOUT SHIFTING THIS ONTO TO RATEPAYERS? WHAT ABOUT THE INCREASE IN FEES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IF THIS GETS DEVELOPED.

AND SO THIS WAS AGAIN FROM THE MANAGER TO THE BOARD, I WANT TO ASSURE YOU AND ALL THE PEOPLE OF OUR DISTRICT THAT BOTH THE DEVELOPER AND D4 ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT EVERY DOLLAR OF INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO PROVIDE ENERGY SERVICE TO THIS PROJECT IS PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER FOR RATEPAYERS WILL NOT BE WILL NOT BE PAYING FOR THIS OR ANY OTHER DATA CENTER THAT OUR DISTRICT SERVES.

WHILE OTHER UTILITIES AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY MAY HAVE SOCIALIZED THE COST OF DATA CENTERS OVER OTHER RATEPAYERS. WE WILL NOT BE DOING THAT HERE, AND EVERYONE HAS ALIGNMENT ON THIS FACT. AND SO WE'VE ALSO PUT A STIPULATION TO THAT EFFECT IN IN OUR PROVIDED STIPULATIONS.

SO AGAIN I MENTIONED EXTENSIVE ANALYSIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

ENGINEERING FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR UTILITY WITH ON SITE GENERATION INTERCONNECTION PLAN AND COST ESTIMATES.

AGAIN, MR. KLINK CAN SPEAK TO THIS MORE IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

BUT AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE INTO GETTING TO THIS POINT.

SO WE HAVE A GAS AND EQUIPMENT. SO IF THE QUESTION IS, WELL, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH HAVE YOU REALLY LOOKED INTO THE ON SITE GENERATION? WE HAVE THE SITE SITS ON THE KINDER MORGAN EL PASO NATURAL GAS SYSTEM.

THERE'S A 15 YEAR ENHANCED FIRM. GAS SUPPLY IS ARRANGED WITH THE NATIONAL SUPPLIER STARTS IN NOVEMBER 2027.

WE HAVE TURBINES THAT HAVE BEEN QUEUED UP. WE'RE IN THE QUEUE ON THOSE.

THEY CAN BE DELIVERED INSTALLED WITHIN 24 MONTHS.

AND FIBER CONNECTIVITY AS WELL. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON MAKING SURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE AVAILABLE GAS POWER IN ADDITION TO THE ELECTRIC.

THAT CAN YOU BACK UP TWO SLIDES THERE? YEAH. SO THE TURBINES, I MEAN, EVERY TIME WE TALK TO POWER COMPANIES, THEY SAY THOSE TURBINES ARE 4 TO 5 YEARS OFF.

AND YOU'RE SAYING YOU CAN GET THEM IN 24 MONTHS AND INSTALLED.

SO AGAIN, I'M SITTING ON A RAIL CAR SOMEPLACE.

I MEAN, THAT'S AWFULLY TIGHT. MR. CLEAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? YEAH. I MEAN, WE DO HAVE THEM. WHY DON'T YOU COME UP? YEAH, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS TAKES A LONG TIME AND THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU COULDN'T GET THEM FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. WELL, WE WE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD.

ROB KLANG. I'M EMPLOYED BY THE APPLICANT AND WE SECURED THESE MORE THAN A YEAR AGO.

SO ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE EMAILS AS EARLY AS LAST WEEK THAT ESSENTIALLY SAY THEY ARE STILL SECURED.

THEY'RE SEEKING A DEPOSIT AT THIS POINT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT.

YEAH. PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THIS HEARING. AND THEN AND YOUR, YOUR GAS SUPPLY FROM EL PASO, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IT WAS ALMOST TAPPED OUT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING NEW GAS LINE IN FROM TEXAS.

JUST THAT'S A DIFFERENT GAS LINE. I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

I KNOW WHO'S DOING IT. BUT I WAS, I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT EL PASO NATURAL GAS WAS ALMOST AT THEIR PEAK.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE WE HAVE A GAS BROKER THAT HAS COMMITMENT TO US FOR THE GAS NEEDED TO GENERATE UPWARDS OF 500MW.

INTERESTING. UP TO 500MW. CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT A THAT'S NOT A GIGAWATT.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO MAKE A GIGAWATT.

SO THEN HOW DO YOU GET THE OTHER GAS? WELL, SECURE THAT AS WE GO.

YOU MIGHT FIND THAT DIFFICULT. I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING I'M JUST SO.

OKAY, JUST JUST JUST CHECKING. THANK YOU. YEAH.

I MEAN, WE HAVE SOLAR AS WELL. THAT'S IN THE AREA THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED THAT ESSENTIALLY WE COULD THAT SOLAR THERE THOUGH.

I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S THAT'S DEDICATED TO SOME OTHER COMPANIES AND TO APCO.

AND THAT WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY YOUR POWER SUPPLY.

SO ANYWAY, I'M JUST I'M JUST CURIOUS. I'M JUST READING NUMBERS AND LISTENING.

SO THANK YOU. OKAY. AND I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT AT THIS POINT, CHAIRMAN, THAT EFFECTIVELY YOU'RE RAISING.

AND SO I'LL JUST RESPOND TO IT, WHICH IS TO SAY THAT IF WE CAN'T GET THE POWER, THEN THAT'S OUR RISK MOVING FORWARD, RIGHT? POWER, WATER. IF WE CAN'T GET WATER, IF WE CAN'T GET ENVIRONMENTAL.

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SO WHILE I THINK WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT TO GIVE US COMFORT THAT THERE'S A THERE'S A PROJECT HERE, IT'S VIABLE. IT'S NOT JUST ON PAPER, CERTAINLY THERE MAY THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN. AND OF COURSE, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT BUILDING OF 300 UNITS.

AND IT'S IT'S ONE BUILDING, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A, THERE'S A REAL TIMELINE HERE THAT THINGS WILL BE FIGURED OUT OVER TIME OR THEY WON'T.

YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T, THEN THEN THAT CAPS THE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THAT. SO AGAIN, RECENTLY SUNBRIDGE GAS POWER PLANT JUST IN COMPARISON.

SO WE ARE PUTTING A CAP ON ON OUR WATER THERE.

AGAIN THAT GOES BACK TO THE 600 ACRE FEET AND THEN ALSO THE CAP THAT WE'VE PUT IN VERSUS A DECIBEL LIMIT.

SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. OURS IS A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WAS WHAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED.

IN TERMS OF FIRE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE A WILL SERVE LETTER AND WE TALKED WITH THE AND I KNOW THE FIRE CHIEF IS HERE AND WILL SPEAK, BUT WE HAVE THIS FIRE COMMITMENT LETTER. AND THEN ALSO THIS IS WHERE WE EXPECT THE TARGET FIRE, WHERE THERE'S A FIRE DONATION SITE, WE EXPECT THAT WE WOULD LOCATE IT UP HERE, BUT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO BE IN SORT OF THIS PART OF OUR SITE, GIVEN THE FIRE STATION THAT'S FURTHER EAST. SO WE WOULD EXPECT THAT THIS WOULD BE A SORT OF MORE NATURAL LOCATION, SORT OF ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE, BUT THAT'S NOT BEEN FINALLY DETERMINED. AND WE WOULD WORK THAT OUT WITH THE FIRE DISTRICT. IT WOULD BE THE BEST LOCATION. CLEARLY, WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF LAND AVAILABLE, SO THERE'S OTHER PLACES THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE LOCATED. AND SO THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE UP AGAINST THAT PROPERTY I HIGHLIGHTED EARLIER, IN WHICH CASE THEY WOULD HAVE SORT OF A BUFFER BY VIRTUE OF THE OF THAT BUILDING.

WE ALSO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE AGAIN RECENTLY UPDATED TO BE EVEN CLEARER THAT WE WOULD WITHIN 60 DAYS FOLLOWING THE VESTING OF THE APPROVAL PURSUE ANNEXATION INTO THAT FIRE DISTRICT. OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T MAKE A UNILATERAL, WE CAN'T DEMAND OUR WAY IN.

SO IT'S PART OF IT IS AN ANNEXATION PROCESS. BUT WE SEE THAT AS REALLY THE ONLY FIRE ALTERNATIVE HERE IS TO PURSUE IT.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT SUPER CLEAR. AND THAT ALSO TALKS ABOUT SOME SUPPORT THAT WE WOULD BE PROVIDING AS PART OF THAT WITHIN THAT AGREEMENT.

SO IT TALKS ABOUT A FUNDING PER BUILDING OF $150,000 THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS ESSENTIALLY STRENGTHENING THE FIRE DISTRICT AND MATERIALS AND EMPLOYEES. SO WE SEE THIS AS A AS A, AS A BENEFIT AS WE EXPAND FIRE SERVICE.

WE SEE THAT AS BEING A GOOD THING FOR, FOR THE REGION.

OKAY. SOUND AIR QUALITY AND FISHERS IS ANOTHER SET OF SET OF TOPICS.

SO JUST KIND OF RUNNING THROUGH THESE QUICKLY.

SO ALREADY I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS IMPORTANT ALREADY WITHIN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION STIPULATIONS, THERE WAS A STIPULATION THAT WE USE THE BEST AVAILABLE SOUND MITIGATION TECHNOLOGY, WITH THE COUNTY BEING THE ONE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THAT'S BEEN DONE, NOT THE APPLICANT, BUT THE COUNTY BEING THE ONE TO REGULATE.

HAS THAT BEEN DONE? NOW, WE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL SORT OF SPECIFICITY THAT WE FELT LIKE WAS BEING CALLED FOR.

BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY VALUABLE STIPULATION BECAUSE IT PUTS CONTROL IN THE HANDS OF THE COUNTY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE DID DO THAT TYPE OF SOUND MITIGATION.

AND AGAIN, USING THE SORT OF BEST AVAILABLE THERE'S ALSO WE ADDED A STIPULATION TO REQUIRE AN INDEPENDENT ACOUSTICAL SOUND STUDY BEFORE ANY PERMIT SO WE CAN MEASURE AMBIENT LEVELS.

AND THEN WE ALSO PUT IN HARD LIMITS THERE FOR FOR DECIBELS.

AND THAT INCLUDES CAMPUS WIDE, INCLUDING THE SORT OF PRIMARY GAS GENERATION.

AND THEN ALSO DOING A POST-CONSTRUCTION NOISE MEASUREMENT WITHIN 90 DAYS OF OPERATION WITH REGARD TO ENVIRONMENTAL.

THERE'S A STIPULATION FROM PNC THAT ALREADY ADDRESSED AIR PERMIT REQUIRED FOR GENERATORS.

WE ALSO ADDED IN THAT THERE WOULD BE FULL GENERATION DISCLOSURE BEFORE ANY POWER PLANT PERMIT TECHNOLOGY.

AND WE FOLLOW ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. AND THEN WE ALSO PUT IN THERE THAT WE HAVE TO MEET OR EXCEED NON-ATTAINMENT ZONE STANDARDS AND COMPLY WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL. AND I WOULD JUST HIGHLIGHT HERE THAT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND GET AN AIR QUALITY PERMIT.

AND THAT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MODEL WHAT OUR GAS GENERATION PLANT WOULD PRODUCE.

AND EITHER WE'RE GOING TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DESIGN IT TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS. AND, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT'S A PUBLIC PROCESS AND PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE AND CAN PROVIDE INPUT.

AND SO THAT THAT IS NOT AN EASY PROCESS, BUT IT'S A PROCESS THAT HAS TO BE GONE THROUGH.

AND SO IT'S A, IT'S A SUBSEQUENT PROCESS TO THIS THAT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

SO THERE, THOSE ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE DEPARTMENTS OF THE COUNTY, AND WE HAVE STATE AGENCIES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THAT ISSUE.

AND THEN WE KNOW THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT SOME OF THE FISSURES AND GEOTECHNICAL.

SO THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THERE ALREADY FROM P AND Z THAT A REPORT IS APPROVED AND REVIEWED AT SITE PLAN STAGE.

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EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIR. YES. WHY IS THE SOUND DIFFERENT AT NIGHT THAN DAY? I MEAN, I COULD UNDERSTAND IF IT'S LITERALLY BY A FREEWAY OR CONSTRUCTION ZONES, BUT WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN THE TIMES, THE TIMES FOR 60 AND THEN 55DB? WHY WOULDN'T IT BE THE SAME ALL THE TIME? WHICHEVER NUMBER THAT MAY BE. YEAH, I WOULD SAY BECAUSE OF THE ACTIVITY.

BECAUSE EVEN IF IT'S NOT NEXT TO A FREEWAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE AMBIENT VOLUME DURING THE DAY BY VIRTUE OF JUST OTHER ACTIVITY.

THERE'S OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING IN THE AREA. SO THIS IS STANDARD THAT WE WOULD GENERALLY, YOU WOULD SEE A STIPULATION LIKE THIS. IN FACT, THIS WAS PULLED FROM ANOTHER JURISDICTION THAT WE WOULD HAVE A LEVEL DURING THE DAY AND NIGHT BECAUSE OF THE AMBIENT VOLUMES ASSOCIATED THAT HAPPENED DURING THE DAY WITH CARS TRAVELING.

AND AGAIN, OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENED IN THE AREA.

THERE'S MORE ACTIVITY DURING THE DAY. SO EVEN NOT NEXT TO A FREEWAY, YOUR POINT IS TAKEN. THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. BUT OTHER ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS WITH DEVELOPMENT WITH LIFE CAUSES AMBIENT LEVELS TO GO UP AND DURING THE DAY THAN AT NIGHT AS IT GETS QUIETER AT NIGHT AND STILLER AT NIGHT, WE MAKE SURE THAT LEVEL GETS DROPPED DOWN. AND SO AGAIN, WE PULLED THAT IN THE, IN THE PROJECTS THAT I'VE WORKED ON IS PRETTY STANDARD THAT YOU WOULD SEE NOT A SIGNIFICANT DROP, BUT A SLIGHT DROP AT NIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AREN'T JUST STAYING AT 60, BUT THAT YOU'RE DROPPING IT TO 55 AT NIGHT TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE FACT THAT THERE WOULD BE BE A LITTLE QUIETER, THE AMBIENT VOLUME WOULD DROP. OKAY. OKAY. THERE WAS A QUESTION.

THIS WAS REALLY CAME OUT OF THE STUDY SESSION FROM THE BOARD REGARDING DISCHARGE.

AND SO THERE'S A REGULATION OF DISCHARGE TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT. WE HEARD THAT REGARDING PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, IF EVEN IF IT'S A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM, AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO DISCHARGE WHAT'S WHAT'S WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

AND SO MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, DONE CARELESSLY AND MAKE SURE THAT'S DONE ACCORDING TO REGULATIONS.

AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS A QUESTION REGARDING DECOMMISSIONING. AND THE IDEA WAS, WHAT IF WE HAVE.

YOU KNOW, A DATA CENTER BUILDING AND THE TECHNOLOGY CHANGES AND WE HAVE THIS BUILDING THAT'S SITTING THERE. WHAT DO WE WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT? AND SO WE PUT IN A STIPULATION REGARDING REQUIRING THAT THERE BE REMOVAL OR REPLACEMENT OR ESSENTIALLY REUSE THE BUILDING OR REMOVE THE COMPONENTS.

SO IT'S NOT JUST SITTING THERE. I THINK THE IDEA WOULD BE WE DON'T WANT. JUST BUILDING SITTING YEAR AFTER YEAR. AND SO WHILE I DON'T SEE THAT BEING LIKELY.

I THINK THE MARKET IS EFFICIENT. AND IF THERE WAS TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, I THINK IT WOULD GET. REUSED ON ITS OWN MARKET VOLITION.

BUT WE ALSO PUT A REQUIREMENT IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST SAYING IT, THAT IT'S BAKED INTO THE RECORD.

AND THEN THERE'S THE, THE AGGREGATE POWER GENERATION THAT WE PROVIDED AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE 33 ORIGINAL COMMISSION STIPULATIONS THAT CAME OUT.

AND I JUST WILL HIGHLIGHT HERE THAT I THINK WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVED, WAS A PROJECT THAT, AGAIN, WE GOT A 7 TO 2 VOTE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEY APPROVED A PROJECT THAT HAD NO CAP ON THE NUMBER.

IT HAD THE 59 DATA CENTERS. IT DIDN'T HAVE A CAP ON WATER.

IT DIDN'T HAVE A CAP ON POWER GENERATION. IT DIDN'T HAVE THESE OTHER STIPULATIONS THAT WE'VE ADDED.

AND YET THAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. AND SO I THINK IF WE WERE FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING, I THINK THE EXAMPLE MIGHT BE IF WE HAD PROPOSED AN APARTMENT BUILDING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND CAME BACK. AND NOW WE'RE PROPOSING HOMES, YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, THAT'S JUST A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROJECT.

I THINK WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO DO WE PROPOSE DATA CENTERS AT THE TIME WE PROPOSE POWER GENERATION.

AT THE TIME WE'VE JUST TAKEN IT AND WE'VE NARROWED IT.

WE'VE TIGHTENED IT UP. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING IT TO MAKE IT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF USE.

IT'S JUST NARROWING IT AND TIGHTENING IT AND RESTRICTING IT MORE.

AND SO WE GOT AN APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE FULL, FULL AMOUNT.

AND SO I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING WHERE THEY WOULD NECESSARILY HAVE TO REREVIEW BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY PROVIDED THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE FULL, AND WE'RE SIMPLY NARROWING IT AND TIGHTENING IT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED THAT WAS DESIRED TO HAVE IT BE TIGHTER AND MORE CONSTRAINED. SO AGAIN, 56 STIPULATIONS BEING PROPOSED.

STAFF MENTIONED THE 55. I SIMPLY ADDED 1 TO 56 BECAUSE OF THE ONE I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THAT SETBACK TO THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY.

SO THIS COVERS ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ISSUES.

SO I WILL PAUSE HERE AND JUST SAY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND THOROUGH IN WHAT WE HEARD AND THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED.

AND SO WE WERE EARNEST IN OUR DESIRE AS A TEAM TO LOOK AT WHAT WAS THE COMMENT, LOOK AT WHAT THE CRITIQUES WERE, LOOK AT WHAT WAS NOT CERTAIN, AND GO BACK AND TRY TO PROVIDE STIPULATIONS THAT RELATED TO THOSE ISSUES AND BE FAIR IN THAT.

AND SO WE TRIED TO BE, AGAIN, REAL AND AUTHENTIC IN DOING THAT.

AND WE THINK WE'VE WHAT WE'VE DONE IS PROVIDE A PROJECT THAT IS IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE.

THAT DOESN'T JUST SAY WE'LL COMMIT TO THINGS, BUT REALLY PUTS THEM ON AND BAKES THEM INTO THE RECORD.

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WE WENT THROUGH THE COMMENT CARDS, WE ADDED IN THE ADDITIONAL STIPULATIONS.

AND NOW WE'RE A MUCH SMALLER, MUCH MORE HIGHLY REGULATED PROJECT THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD.

SO FOR, FOR JOBS AND ECONOMIC INPUT. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME DESIRE FOR THIS TO.

I THINK THERE WERE SOME CRITIQUES ON THIS. AND SO WE HAVE JIM ROUNDS HERE FROM ROUND CONSULTING, AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE HIM COME UP AND SPEAK TO THIS SECTION.

HE'S FAR MORE QUALIFIED THAN I AM TO SPEAK TO THIS.

WELL, I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK BECAUSE SO MANY DON'T. SO THAT'S.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JIM ROUNDS.

I DO ECONOMIC AND POLICY ADVISING FOR A LOT OF ENTITIES ACROSS THE STATE.

IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M TESTIFYING.

EXCUSE ME, ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. IF YOU RECALL, WHEN YOU RECEIVED THE FIRST ANALYSIS, THE NUMBERS WERE QUESTIONABLY HIGH AND THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS, AND WE WERE ASKED IF WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS.

WE CAME UP WITH MORE CONSERVATIVE ONES THAN THE ORIGINAL CONSULTANT REVISED THEIRS.

SO THEIR NUMBERS ARE STILL SOURCED IN HERE, BUT THEY WERE BROUGHT DOWN TO MORE REASONABLE LEVELS.

SO WE WERE BROUGHT IN JUST RECENTLY. SO I'M ONLY GOING TO BE COMMENTING ON A FEW THINGS.

I WOULD NORMALLY GIVE ABOUT A 35 SLIDE PRESENTATION.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS ONE MAYBE HAS FIVE SLIDES.

SO I KNOW YOU HAVE A LONG DAY. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

FOR THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS. YES, TIME IS GREAT.

THANK YOU. I'LL HIT ON JUST SOME OF THE MAIN POINTS.

AND YOU REALLY HAVE ALL OF THESE DATA POINTS.

I'M JUST GOING TO HIT ON THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE SLIDES THAT I THOUGHT WERE WORTHWHILE MAKING A POINT ON AND SPENDING A FEW MINUTES.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DECENT NUMBER OF JOBS MORE THAN WHAT WE WOULD HAVE SEEN WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PRIOR SOLAR PROJECTS HIGHER WAGES AND SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL INVESTMENT. THE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AGRICULTURE, THE, THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO NOTE ON THIS, WHICH I COULDN'T SEE BECAUSE I WAS BEHIND THE PRIOR SPEAKER, BUT ONE OF YOU BROUGHT UP WHAT KIND OF AG USE IS IT? AND MY ONLY CONCERN WAS TAKE CARE IN LOOKING AT THE WATER AND AG USE, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT COULD JUST BE GRAZING.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK ON REFINING HOW THE STATE LAND DEPARTMENT WORKS, AND I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH INTO RURAL GRAZING AND AG USE.

SO I KNOW THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE SOMETIMES IN THE WATER USE, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU GROW OR IF SOMEBODY'S TAKING A SHOWER AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHICH I'M HOPING EVERYBODY DOES. THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

THERE'S THESE TYPES OF MEGA PROJECTS, WHETHER WE'RE DEALING WITH A RAILROAD PROJECT LIKE WE'RE DEALING WITH IN MARICOPA COUNTY OR A BIG DATA CENTER OR OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, LIKE WHEN WE WORKED WITH YOU ALL ON LG AND LUCID AND OTHERS.

THERE'S BIG DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR DIFFERENT GROUPS, SPECIAL DISTRICTS.

AND SO THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE SIGNIFICANT. AS YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM ANYTHING OF THIS SCALE.

ONE, ONE THING THAT I'VE SEEN THAT IT'S NOT REALLY A WORD OF CAUTION.

IT'S MORE JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND IS WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SMALLER AREAS WITHIN THE GREATER PHOENIX REGION KIND OF BE KNOWN FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. AND NOW WHEN BUSINESSES CONTACT US AND SOMETIMES THEY'LL CONTACT US AND ASK FOR SOME ADVICE BASED ON ECONOMIC DATA ON WHERE THEY SHOULD BE ASKING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENTITIES TO TAKE THEM AROUND ON THE LITTLE TOURS.

SO THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT 30 DIFFERENT SITES OVER FIVE DAYS.

THEY MIGHT JUST WANT TO SEE TWO. WE, I ALWAYS START WITH PANEL LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES HERE FOR GOVERNMENT ENTITIES.

AND JUST THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE FANTASTIC. AND WHEN YOU'RE IN THESE AREAS THAT ARE HITTING THAT INFLECTION POINT, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE OF THE GREATEST EXPANSIONS. IN FACT, YOU WILL HAVE THE STRONGEST EXPANSION IN YOUR HISTORY DURING AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS NEXT LITTLE HICCUP IN THE ECONOMY, IT'S GOING TO BE EXTREMELY STRONG.

THERE'S GOING TO BE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO BE ON TOP OF IT.

SO JUST MAKE SURE THAT AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE PROJECTS, PEOPLE VOTE YES AND NO FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THAT MESSAGING OF WE'RE STILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

WE'RE STILL VERY TECH ORIENTED. AND. MR.. JIM.

JIM ROUNDS ROUNDS NO, THAT WASN'T OH, I THOUGHT SOMEBODY SAID TO STATE MY NAME.

IT WAS A FLAW HERE. TECHNICAL ISSUE. MR. MILLER'S MESSING WITH ME.

PROBABLY HE'S LAUGHING ON THE OTHER END. HE HAS IT ON MUTE.

WE ALSO WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK. AND A LOT OF THESE NUMBERS WERE PRODUCED BY OUR PRIOR THE PRIOR CONSULTANT, BUT ALSO US CHECKING THE NUMBERS OR REVISING THEM.

SO YOU SEE DIFFERENT SOURCES IN THERE. SOME WILL SAY ELLIOT POLLOCK AND COMPANY, SOME WILL SAY BROWNS CONSULTING GROUP.

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AND SO THAT JUST MAKES SENSE THOUGH. AS YOU DEVELOP MORE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE REVENUE.

IT GIVES YOU A CHANCE TO KEEP TAX RATES LOW WHILE YOU'RE STILL PROVIDING QUALITY SERVICES.

BUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN IN PINAL IS, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IN OTHER MEETINGS, IS WE NEED TO START SCALING UP.

WE HIT THAT INFLECTION POINT WHERE WE START TO GET A LOT OF VOLUME.

SO WE HAVE HIGH WAGE, HIGH SKILLED JOBS CLOSE TO HOME.

IF YOU REMEMBER, OR IF YOU READ AFTER THE FACT, THE STUDY THAT WE DID WHERE WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT RETAIL LEAKAGE GOING OUT OF PINAL INTO MARICOPA COUNTY AND YOUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR SAID, WHY DON'T YOU LOOK AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LEAKAGE? AND I SAID, THERE'S NOT EVEN A TERM FOR THAT.

SO WE CREATED WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR A WHOLE NEW TERMINOLOGY FOR ECONOMIC AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT'S PICKING UP THE JOB LOSSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY WERE SIGNIFICANT. SO ANYTIME THERE'S A CHANCE OF GETTING SOME BUSINESSES CLOSER TO HOME THAT ALSO SOMETIMES LOCATE NEXT TO OTHER BUSINESSES. YOU SEE CLUSTERS OF ENERGY PRODUCTION, DATA CENTERS AND HIGH TECH BUSINESSES.

THEY TEND TO CLUSTER AROUND ONE ANOTHER. THERE'S THERE'S ALL SORTS OF TECHNICAL TERMS THAT I WON'T GET INTO, BUT YOU SEE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR SCHOOLS. NOW THERE IS A EQUALIZATION FORMULA, BUT YOU END UP TYPICALLY EXPANDING THE TAX BASE.

AND ON NET, THE SCHOOLS HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE THERE'S ECONOMIES OF SCALE.

AND THERE'S, I WOULD SAY, I DON'T WANT TO SAY REGARDLESS OF THIS PROJECT, BUT THIS REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO GO GOING FORWARD. THAT'S UP TO YOU.

BUT SINCE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN LOOKING AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUES FOR YOU IN THE COUNTY AND HOW CAN WE HAVE MORE OF THE MANUFACTURING AND R&D DONE HERE? THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN AN INTEREST IN FROM UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA AND TALKING ABOUT, IS THERE A WAY WHERE WE CAN HAVE THE ACADEMIC INSTITUTION PARTNER WITH THE GOVERNMENT ENTITY, PARTNER WITH A PRIVATE SECTOR BUSINESS, AND FIGURE OUT WAYS IN THE LONG TERM TO REDUCE THE THE HEAT PRODUCED AT THE DATA CENTERS, REDUCE THE NOISE REDUCE ANY WATER USES AND A LOT OF CASES.

THEY HAVE CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS AND IT'S DESCRIBED AS A RADIATOR IN A CAR, BUT IT'S REALLY A LEAKY RADIATOR WHERE YOU STILL HAVE TO FILL IT UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. IT CAN'T JUST BE WATER.

YOU GOT TO PUT A LITTLE ANTIFREEZE IN IT. NOT IN ARIZONA, REALLY, BUT THAT'S MORE FOR LUBRICATION RATHER THAN FREEZING.

ANYWAY THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES GOING FORWARD.

SO I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND BEING VERY, VERY THOUGHTFUL ON THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE IN FRONT OF YOU IN THE IN THE FUTURE AS YOU VOTE YES OR NO ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

JUST MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S GOOD MESSAGING. WHEN MARICOPA COUNTY VOTED NO ON THAT BIG RAIL PROJECT, THEY WERE SLAMMED BY ALL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUPS, AND I HAD TO GO ON THE RADIO AND I SAID THEY DIDN'T VOTE NO BECAUSE THEY WERE OPPOSED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THEY VOTED NO BECAUSE THEY WERE OPPOSED TO THAT PARTICULAR PRODUCT, THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AND SO I PERSONALLY LIKE THIS PROJECT QUITE A BIT, BUT IT'S NOT MY CALL.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M STANDING HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. THAT'S WHY WE TOOK ON THE PROJECT, MOSTLY BECAUSE IT SAID PINAL COUNTY AFTERWARDS.

AND WE THOUGHT IF WE COULD HELP GET YOU BETTER NUMBERS, THEN YOU COULD MAKE A BETTER DECISION.

WHAT DID I HIGHLIGHT ON THIS ONE? THE RED DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR SOME REASON.

I MENTIONED MOST OF THOSE. OH, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT MAYBE SOME PROCEDURES I READ IN SOME PRIOR DISCUSSIONS FOR DATA CENTERS.

ONE THING I'D BE CAREFUL ON IS I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS DATA CENTER.

I WOULD CONSIDER DETACHING THIS FROM LOOKING AT THE FUTURE DATA CENTER ORDINANCE DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY STIPULATIONS. THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF THINGS THAT AREN'T DON'T FOLLOW STANDARD PRACTICES.

AND THAT'S OKAY. BUT I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF YOU DEVELOPING THESE GOING FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE PAST, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT IN A ROAD THAT COST $5 MILLION, BUT WITHIN TWO YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO GET $15 MILLION IN EXTRA TAX COLLECTIONS.

THAT'S A POSITIVE ROI. SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING THAT TYPE OF ORDINANCE TOGETHER GOING FORWARD, I'D BE REAL CAREFUL OF INCLUDING THIS AS ONE OF THE CASE STUDIES BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE SOME FRIENDS THAT ARE GOING TO VOLUNTEER IF YOUR STAFF ARE INTERESTED.

MYSELF AND OUR OLD FRIEND ANDY TOBIN WHO EVERYBODY KNOWS ONLY BECAUSE HE'S, WE'VE BEEN TEAMING UP QUITE A BIT.

HE WAS THE PERSON AT THE STATE CAPITOL RUNNING THE BILL AFTER THE GREAT RECESSION FOR THE JOBS RECOVERY PACKAGE, WHILE I WAS DRAFTING THE LEGISLATION FOR HIM.

HE WAS JUST AS NICE BACK THEN AS HE IS NOW. HE HASN'T GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE HE'S GRUMPY YET,

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YOU'VE SEEN THE PRIOR ANALYZES YOU, YOU'VE SEEN THE UPDATE ANALYSIS.

SO I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS ARE.

AND THEN I HOPE YOU HAVE ENOUGH WATER TO GET THROUGH THE REST OF THE DAY.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG DAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROUNDS FROM THE BOARD? I KNOW I'M GOOD. NONE AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. ROUNDS. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU.

ALL RIGHT. JUST I JUST HAVE TWO MORE AND WE'LL WRAP UP.

ALL RIGHT. SO IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS, SO IN MY IN MY OPINION, AGAIN, I'M I'M COMING AT THIS PROJECT LATER.

AND WHAT I SEE HAVING HAD HAPPENED, I WATCHED THE MAY HEARING AND WHAT.

AGAIN, PART OF MY. MY JOB IN ANY ZONING CASE THAT I DO IS TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS IF WE CAN.

AND I TELL THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS. DOESN'T MEAN I ALWAYS CAN, BUT IF I CAN, IF I CAN FIND WAYS TO STIMULATE A PROJECT THAT THE CLIENT WILL ACCEPT AND THAT ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS, THEN LET'S TRY TO DO THOSE.

RIGHT. AND SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE PUBLIC PROCESS.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT MAKES THIS SYSTEM WORK. AND IT'S PART OF WHAT I'M HIRED TO DO IS TO TRY TO BRING TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, RIGHT? TRY TO BRING SOLUTIONS IF WE CAN. AND AGAIN, SOMETIMES WE CAN'T AND SOMETIMES WE CAN'T COME TO TERMS, BUT SOMETIMES WE CAN WORK AT THE EDGES TO, TO PROVIDE PROTECTIONS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE BY GETTING UP TO 56 STIPULATIONS.

I THINK IT'S A TESTAMENT THAT THE DEVELOPER WAS WILLING TO LISTEN.

AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE THROWING US A PARADE. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE AREN'T STILL GOING TO BE CONVINCED THAT THIS IS POSITIVE, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T TRY TO ADDRESS CONCERNS WHERE WE CAN. AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE'VE DONE HERE ON THIS PROJECT.

AS I MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET, SORT OF SEVERAL TIMES, AND I'LL SORT OF JUST LEAVE IT HERE ON THE SCREEN THAT THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE PROCESS.

I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERNS COME FROM IT'S JUST GOING TO GO UP TOMORROW.

WELL, NO, THERE'S A LOT OF PROCESSES THAT STILL HAVE TO HAPPEN ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT FRONTS BEFORE THIS CAN BECOME A REALITY.

THIS IS JUST A STEP IN IT. AND THIS PART OF THE PROCESS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT PROVIDES SOME LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE TO THEN GO DO ALL THAT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT MOVING FORWARD AT THAT POINT. AND SO AGAIN, STILL, STILL A WHOLE LOT TO DO.

WE THINK THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED THE BOARD WITH A PROJECT THAT IS APPROVABLE THAT ADDRESSES THOSE THOSE CONCERNS.

AND SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS NOW.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS WHO WISH TO SPEAK. QUITE A FEW.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? MR. CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO ASK.

SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT EDDIE, FOR WHO DOESN'T CREATE AN OUNCE OF POWER, IS ABLE TO SUPPORT YOUR PROJECT? I'M SORRY. I'VE SPOKEN TO SRP AND APS AND SEVERAL OTHER POWER COMPANIES.

HOW IS THAT TYPE OF COMPANY? WHO'S BUYING ALL THEIR POWER GOING TO SUPPORT WHEN YOU STILL HAVE 500MW OF POWER? YOU'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THEY CAN SUPPLY THAT.

AND IF SO, WE NEED TO ALL START LOOKING FOR 84 BECAUSE THAT'S A REAL TOUGH THING.

BUT I JUST WANT TO HEAR THAT ANSWER. SURE. AND ROB, DO YOU WANT TO COME SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL AGAIN? ROB HAS BEEN HANDLING KIND OF THE THINGS ON THE POWER FRONT.

YEAH. ROB PLAYING AGAIN YOU ARE CORRECT. ED4 DOES NOT HAVE POWER NOR DO THEY PURCHASE THE POWER.

SO WE WILL SUPPLY ALL POWER. WE WILL SECURE AGREEMENTS WITH NEW GENERATION.

WE'LL CREATE OUR OWN GENERATION. THAT MIX WILL ESSENTIALLY POWER THE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF IFS AND BUTS, RIGHT? WELL, SURE.

THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.

OH, YES. SUPERVISOR MILLAR YES, I FORGOT. I CAN'T SEE YOU, BUT YOU'RE IN MY HEAD.

YES. YEAH. THE WAY I SEE ITI FOR SUPPORTING THIS IS BECAUSE IT IS MORE GENERATION THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE.

OF COURSE THEY WOULD SUPPORT IT. THEY'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR GENERATED POWER.

SO ANY GENERATION WAS A POSITIVE TO THEM. AND THE GRID.

AM I THINKING CORRECTLY? CAN YOU CAN YOU FIGURE OUT THAT QUESTION THERE? YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO GET GENERATION POWER YOU CAN SELF GENERATE.

WE CAN GO AND FIND GENERATION WHICH WE HAVE. WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO DO STUDIES BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE A NEW GAS GENERATION THAT'S COMING ONTO THE MARKET THAT WILL DELIVER POWER TO PALO VERDE.

WE HAVE TO DO STUDIES NOW TO GET THAT POWER FROM PALO VERDE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 85 SUBSTATION,

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WE HAVE TO CONNECT TO 84 SYSTEM. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? SUPERVISOR MILLER. I THINK SO, YEAH. THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT.

THE ACTUALLY, THE MORE POWER THERE IS, IS THE MOST IS THE CHANCE OF KEEPING THE POWER RATES DOWN.

BUT THE EVS, ALL THE EVS ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR GENERATED POWER THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE FROM SOMEBODY SOMEHOW, SOME WAY. SO, I MEAN, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTING THIS, RIGHT? AND APCO IS THE MOST AGGRESSIVE WHEN IT COMES TO GOING OUT, SECURING POWER AND DELIVERING THAT POWER TO EACH OF THE SMALLER UTILITY DISTRICTS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO I'M GOING TO RECONVENE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR AGENDA ITEMS ONE AND TWO. AND I WILL JUST SAY, SO FAR I'VE RECEIVED 155 CARDS.

OKAY. BUT ON THE LUCKY SIDE OF THAT, 85 HAVE SAID THEY DON'T CARE TO SPEAK.

AND THEY ARE OPPOSED. TWO ARE NOT INDICATED ON 87 OF THOSE 68 WISH TO SPEAK.

SO JUST BECAUSE I SAID THREE MINUTES EARLIER.

JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, THAT'S THREE HOURS AND 24 MINUTES JUST.

AND THAT DOESN'T COUNT THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET EVERYBODY HERE.

SO IF YOU HAVE REPETITIVE STATEMENTS OR YOU AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE, IF YOU JUST WANT TO STAND UP AND SAY, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THOSE GUYS SAID, GREAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE FULL THREE MINUTES. YOU KNOW, IT'S FINE, YOU KNOW, SO WE'LL JUST START DOWN THE LIST.

AND SO I'M GOING TO GET A FEW PEOPLE BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE SPREAD OUT IN TWO OVERFLOW ROOMS. DO WE HAVE THEM IN THE, IN THE EOC AS WELL. WE DO.

SO. OKAY. AND THEN AND THEN ACROSS THE PARKING LOT.

SO I'M GOING TO PUT A FEW NAMES UP AT A TIME AND THAT'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SHOW UP.

SO FIRST UP, I HAVE OF COURSE I PICK ONE. I CAN'T READ NADIA WORKS.

I BELIEVE THAT'LL BE NUMBER ONE. THEN I HAVE JESSICA.

ANDRE I HAVE K.S. BUELL AND VINCENT SIEBERT. SO WE'LL START WITH THOSE AND WE'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LINE.

AND FOR THE RECORD, EVERYONE THAT COMES, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

AND GENERALLY I DON'T NEED YOUR ADDRESS, JUST GENERALLY WHERE YOU LIVE. PLEASE.

YES. MY NAME IS NADIA WORKS AND I'M HERE FROM ORACLE, ARIZONA.

OH, SORRY. THERE WE GO. THERE YOU GO. SO AFTER THE PRESENTATION, I DO HAVE SOME CONFUSION AS FAR AS THE GAS UTILITY IS GOING TO GO.

SO PREVIOUSLY IT WAS TO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TRANSWESTERN PIPELINE DESERT SOUTHWEST EXPANSION PROJECT, WHICH WAS GOING TO BE 520 MILES LONG FROM IT, WAS GOING TO BRING GAS FROM TEXAS ALL THE WAY OUT HERE IN ORDER TO POWER A DATA CENTER PROJECT. BUT AS FAR AS WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO USE IN ORDER TO BRING MORE GAS LATER ON IN CASE THERE IS SOME KIND OF DEFICIT IF MORE GAS COMPRESSOR STATIONS DOWN THE LINE AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THIS PROJECT BEING PUSHED THROUGH, IF THESE GAS COMPRESSOR STATIONS NEED TO BE ESTABLISHED IN ORDER TO CONTINUE BRINGING THE UTILITY OVER HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THAT IN THE FUTURE COULD BRING A LOT MORE POLLUTION.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AS FAR AS JUST ANOTHER CONSIDERATION AS FAR AS A CONSEQUENCE OF ALLOWING THIS PROJECT TO GO THROUGH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT IS JESSICA ANDRE, FOLLOWED BY K.J.

BUELL, FOLLOWED BY VINCENT SIEBERT, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL.

SORRY, I CAN'T READ THAT. BUT MICHAEL, FROM SOMETHING I THINK EAST INDIA STREET.

AND I'M SORRY I CAN'T READ THE LAST NAME. I CAN'T QUITE READ.

I THINK IT SAYS. DALLAS. I'M NOT SURE. BUT ANYWAY, MISS ANDRE, YOU'RE UP.

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I AM A SUSTAINABILITY EDUCATOR AND LOCAL CONSERVATIONIST.

I'M GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR PINAL COUNTY AND THE VISION THAT STATES THAT PINAL COUNTY IS THE LEADER IN ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND ENCOURAGES SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES INCLUDING INNOVATIVE LAND USE PLANNING, WATER CONSERVATION, GREEN BUILDING, AND RENEWABLE AND ALTERNATIVE ENERGY. BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I BELIEVE THIS DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTS SERIOUS CONFLICTS WITH THOSE COMMITMENTS.

I WILL HIGHLIGHT SOME SPECIFICS FROM CHAPTER SEVEN OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TITLED ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.

CHAPTER SEVEN ESTABLISHES GOAL 7.1. ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP IS PART OF ALL DECISIONS MADE IN PINAL COUNTY HAS BECOME A MODEL FOR SUSTAINABILITY.

OBJECTIVE 7.11 DIRECTS THE COUNTY TO PROMOTE ECOLOGICALLY RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT USING THE BEST AVAILABLE SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION TO AVOID, MINIMIZE OR MITIGATE IMPACTS TO ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS.

THESE POLICIES ARE PARTICULARLY RELEVANT BECAUSE THE RED ROCK AREA HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS BOTH A POTENTIAL WILDLIFE LINKAGE ZONE AND A HABITAT BLOCK THROUGH THE ARIZONA WILDLIFE LINKAGES ASSESSMENT. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY RECOGNIZES WILDLIFE LINKAGE ASSESSMENT AS AN IMPORTANT PLANNING CONSIDERATION AND IDENTIFIES TOOLS SUCH AS LAND PROTECTION, WILDLIFE CROSSINGS AND COMMUNITY PLANNING TO MAINTAIN CONNECTIVITY.

THE RED ROCK GROWTH POLICIES ALSO CALL FOR PRESERVATION OF WILDLIFE LINKAGES AND MITIGATION OF HABITAT FRAGMENTATION UNDER POLICY.

3.8.1.5 A LARGE SCALE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA DESERVES CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF WHETHER THESE OBJECTIVES OBJECTIVES CAN ACTUALLY BE ACHIEVED.

WHAT TYPES OF PROTECTIONS ARE IN PLACE FOR THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, IF ANY, WITHOUT PROTECTIONS, ARE WE PUTTING OUR WILDLIFE AT RISK? THIS DEVELOPMENT IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO ACHIEVING THE GOALS SET FORTH BY THE COUNTY.

THERE'S ALSO REGIONAL IMPACTS AND THE PRECAUTIONARY QUESTION.

THIS MEANS THE QUESTION SHOULD NOT SIMPLY BE CAN THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL ACCOMMODATE A DATA CENTER? THE QUESTION SHOULD BE WHAT WILL THIS DEVELOPMENT MEAN FOR RED ROCK? ELOY. COOLIDGE, CASA GRANDE, FLORENCE SURROUNDING UNINCORPORATED AREAS, WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, GROUNDWATER, AIR QUALITY, HEAT, LIGHT AND OTHER BROADER REGIONAL ECOSYSTEM. OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DECADES, PINAL COUNTY HAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED A VISION AND VISION AND POLICY FRAMEWORK NECESSARY TO GUIDE SUSTAINABLE GROWTH. THE QUESTION BEFORE THE BOARD IS WHETHER THESE POLICIES WILL BE APPLIED WHEN A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL TESTS THEM.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SHOULD NOT REQUIRE PINAL COUNTY TO COMPROMISE THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES THAT MAKE THIS REGION LIVABLE.

I WILL LEAVE WITH ONE FINAL THOUGHT. ALTHOUGH FROM A PAPERWORK STANDPOINT, THE DEVELOPER MAY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT AS THEY SHOULD TO PROCEED. AND IN THE SPIRIT OF FREE ENTERPRISE, HOW CAN ONE DENY THAT ONE REALLY CANNOT.

HOWEVER, I CAN BAKE A CAKE PERFECTLY. FOLLOW THE RECIPE EXACTLY, PIPE IT, AND BEAUTIFULLY DECORATE THIS PERFECT CAKE FOR MY BEST FRIEND BOB.

I GET OVER TO BOB AND SAY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BOB.

BOB LOOKS AT ME, THEN THE CAKE AND SAYS, DID YOU FORGET THAT I'M A DIABETIC? APPROVING THIS DATA CENTER JUST BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS DONE RIGHT IS LIKE BAKING A CAKE FOR A DIABETIC FRIEND.

YOU MAY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT, BUT YOU FORGOT AN EXCEPTION. THOSE POLICIES AND GUIDELINES LAID OUT BY THE COMPREHENSIVE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ARE THOSE EXCEPTIONS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR SERVICE. FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PINAL COUNTY, PLEASE OPPOSE THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU, MISS ANDRE. AND NO MORE COFFEE FOR YOU. OKAY. WOW. OKAY. I HAD TO GET IN THREE MINUTES.

OKAY. NEXT IS K J BUELL, FOLLOWED BY VINCENT SIEBERT, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW, DIALS DALLAS. AND FOLLOWED BY MARK SEIDEL.

GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING SHE JUST SAID IN ADDITION TO MY OWN COMMENTS.

THE PRESENTATION THAT WE LISTENED TO WAS HIGHLY OPTIMISTIC.

WHENEVER YOU GUYS ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC NUMBERS, THEY HAD TO BACKTRACK AND OPSVIEW, WHICH TELLS ME THEY DON'T REALLY CAN'T GUARANTEE THESE THINGS THAT THEY SAY.

THEY ALSO SEEMED LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO BUY US OFF.

THEY WANT TO LOWER MY PROPERTY TAXES. DOES A PRIVATE COMPANY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT? I DON'T THINK SO. AND THEY PROMISE ALL THESE HIGH TECH GOOD JOBS.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, THEY'RE BUILDING A DATA CENTER.

HOW MUCH WORK IS THAT GOING TO NEED? A MAINTENANCE GUY? MAYBE BECAUSE THEY SAY AI IS GOING TO TAKE OVER ALL THESE JOBS ANYWAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BIG BUILDINGS AND LOSE OUR WAY OF LIFE HERE.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY I DON'T FEEL BETTER AFTER LISTENING TO THEM.

I DON'T SEE THAT THEY'RE BRINGING ANYTHING TO US. PINAL COUNTY I LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED RURAL PINAL COUNTY.

I MOVED THERE FROM PHOENIX BECAUSE I LOVE THE RURAL WAY OF LIFE HERE.

DON'T RUIN IT FOR US. SO PLEASE VOTE IN OPPOSITION.

THANK YOU. CAN WE GET YOUR NAME? EXCUSE ME. WE NEVER DID GET HER NAME.

OH. I'M SORRY. SORRY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

NEXT IS VINCENT SIEBERT, FOLLOWED BY AGAIN, MICHAEL DIAL DALLAS, FOLLOWED BY MARK SEIDEL.

SEIDEL, FOLLOWED BY TIM KATZ. I THINK IT'S KATSORIS.

MR. SIEBERT.

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MR. SEIDEL, ARE YOU AROUND? IS ANYBODY HOME? NOBODY. OKAY. I'LL GO. LEON. LEON. RIDGE. OH, DON'T DO THAT TO ME.

LEON IS. NO, NO. SORRY IF I BUTCHERED THAT. IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE.

OH. BUDDY'S COMING. OKAY. OKAY, LEONA.

COME ON. OH! GET HIM IN HERE! CHAIRMAN. YES. MISS CHRISTINE, MAY I SUGGEST YOU PUT THOSE ON SECOND CALL? MAYBE CALL FIVE NAMES OUT TO HAVE THEM WAITING.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING. I'VE BEEN CALLING THEM AS THE PEOPLE COME UP.

I'VE GOT FIVE CARDS IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, I JUST WAS GOING DOWN THE LINE. SO. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN.

JEFF. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN WRITE THEIR NAMES DOWN ON THE SCREEN? I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD DO THAT, MR. CHAIR.

YES. MAYBE IF WE HAD PEOPLE RAISE WHO? SPEAKING CARDS HERE.

THAT WAY. I'VE GOT ALL THE CARDS. THEY DON'T.

OH, I'M JUST SAYING. OH, HERE WE GO. MR. SIDELL, WE HIT ONE.

THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. OKAY. HELLO, MY NAME IS DOCTOR MARC SIDELL AND I'M FROM FLORENCE.

THANK YOU, SUPERVISORS, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MANY, MANY PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE THE ZONING AND PAD CHANGES RELATED TO THESE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES.

NOTE THESE ARE CITIZENS OF PINAL COUNTY AND NOT UNION WORKERS BUSED IN FROM PHOENIX AREA.

THESE PEOPLE EACH HAVE THEIR OWN REASONS. AND IN FACT, THERE ARE MANY, MANY REASONS TO OPPOSE THESE ZONING CHANGES TO ENABLE DATA CENTER CONSTRUCTION. SOME OF THESE REASONS MAY RESONATE STRONGLY WITH YOU.

SOME NOT SO MUCH AND SOME NOT AT ALL. I MYSELF DO NOT RESONATE WITH SOME OF THESE REASONS, BUT THEY ARE ALL WORTH OUR DEEP CONSIDERATION.

AND THAT TAKES TIME. AND A STRUCTURE FOR ANALYSIS BUILT INTO THE COUNTY CODE, WHICH IS NOT THERE YET.

I TOOK ALL THREE OF MY ENGINEERING DEGREES FROM MIT, AND AS AN ALUMNUS, I RECEIVED THEIR TECHNOLOGY REVIEW MAGAZINE.

THIS MAGAZINE IS, OF COURSE, QUITE BULLISH ON AND EXCITED ABOUT TECHNOLOGY IN GENERAL AND MANY SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGIES IN PARTICULAR.

BUT WITH REGARD TO DATA CENTERS AND AI, THEY STRIKE A MUCH MORE CAUTIONARY TONE.

I COULD GIVE MANY EXAMPLES, BUT I HAVEN'T THE TIME RIGHT NOW.

IN SHORT, I DON'T WANT AN INCOMPLETE AND HASTILY BUILT AND EVER CHANGING PROPOSAL.

I DON'T WANT STIPULATIONS THAT ARE UNENFORCEABLE OR NOT ENFORCED.

I DON'T WANT PROMISES FROM A LAWYER OR A SELLER THAT HAVE NO MEANING AFTER THE SALE.

I DON'T WANT A COUNTY CODE STRUCTURE IGNORANT OF DATA CENTER SPECIFICS.

I WANT A REAL AND STABLE PROPOSAL FROM THE FINAL OWNER WITH DEEPLY THOUGHT OUT TECHNICAL SPECS AND ALL ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS ADDRESSED.

I WANT AN UNDERSTANDING OF ENFORCEABLE STIPULATIONS SPECIFIC TO DATA CENTERS IN OUR COUNTY.

I WANT A WELL THOUGHT OUT STRUCTURE AND UNDERSTANDING BUILT INTO OUR STATE AND COUNTY CODES, ENCOMPASSING THE UNIQUE ASPECTS OF DATA CENTERS.

I BELIEVE THAT WE DESERVE SUCH A REAL AND COMPLETE PROPOSAL.

I BELIEVE THAT WE AS A NATION, AS A STATE, AS A COUNTY, AS AN ELECTORATE DESERVE THIS CAREFUL AND MULTIFACETED CONSIDERATION RATHER THAN A HEADLONG RUSH TOWARDS AN END FOR WHICH WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN ENOUGH TIMELY DATA TO UNDERSTAND.

AND CONTRARY TO THE PRESENTER'S EARLIER STATEMENT, I BELIEVE THE VOICES OF ALL PINAL COUNTY CITIZENS MATTER.

SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO REJECT THIS ZONING PROPOSAL OUTRIGHT.

DON'T CONTINUE IT AND DON'T KICK IT BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING, BECAUSE WITHOUT A PROPER STRUCTURE IN PLACE, WE AS A COUNTY ARE NOT PREPARED TO FULLY EVALUATE THESE PROPOSALS THAT AFFECT SO MANY PEOPLE.

THANK YOU AGAIN, AND I CAN TAKE QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

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OKAY. THANK YOU. SO NOW WE'RE VINCENT SIEBERT, MICHAEL DILES, TED KOUTSOURIS, LIANA VENO, AND GEORGINA. MATTHIAS.

I'LL THROW OUT A COUPLE MORE NAMES. MAYBE SOMEBODY WILL SHOW UP. HOW ABOUT MICHELLE TATER, I BELIEVE, AND. FREMEA SEIDEL.

LOOKS LIKE THE WHOLE SEIDEL FAMILY. HOW ABOUT MARGERITA SEIDEL? KEEP READING. I'LL JUST CALL THE NAME SO SOMEBODY SHOWS UP.

HOW ABOUT IRENE? I BELIEVE.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHO IT IS. HOW ABOUT. AND I'M SORRY, I CAN'T READ THIS FROM BLAKE.

MICK SOMETHING. WHO? MCKEE. BLAKE MCKEE.

OKAY. MICROPHONES ARE WORKING IN THE OTHER ROOMS. THAT'S WHY I'M CALLING SO MANY NAMES. I FIGURE WE GET THEM MOVING HERE.

WHO DO WE HAVE THE PLEASURE OF HERE? HELLO. MY NAME IS TED.

I WAS IN THE OTHER BUILDING. GOTCHA. SO I OPPOSE THE BUILDING.

AND I CAN GO THROUGH SOME OF THE SLIDES OF THE OF THE PRESENTATION.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF I TAKE LIKE THE NOISE, WHICH IS LIKE 55, 60DB, WHICH IS ABOUT THE SIZE, THE NOISE LEVEL OF THIS ROOM. BUT PEOPLE THAT THEY LIVE NEXT TO DATA CENTERS, THEY CLAIM THAT THE NOISE IS LIKE LIVING NEXT TO THE AIRPORT, WHICH IS 8090DB.

SO THE PRESENTATION WAS NICE, BUT IT HAS TO BE SOME TRUTH ALSO.

THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. WE CAN GO THROUGH POWER ALSO.

WHEN THEY GO LIKE ONE GIGAWATT OF POWER. YOU HAVE A LOT OF LOSSES AND MOST OF THE LOSSES WILL BE IN HEAT. AND THE WHOLE THING CREATES A LOT OF HEAT IN A HOT ENVIRONMENT THAT WE LIVE HERE.

SO THAT WILL BE ANNOYING TO THE PEOPLE CLOSE TO THE VICINITY.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DIALS. LIANA NOVI AND GEORGIA.

MATTHIAS. GEORGINA. I'M SORRY. GEORGINA. MATTHIAS.

MICHELLE. TATER F. A SEIDEL. MARGARITA SEIDEL.

IRENE KANAKIS AND BLAKE MCKEE. I FEEL LIKE A KID WHO'S PLAYING CARDS. THEY GOT THIS THING SPREAD OUT IN FRONT OF ME. I CAN'T HOLD THEM IN MY HAND. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY. LIANA, FOR THE RECORD, STATED THAT SHE DOES NOT WANT TO SPEAK.

OKAY. IT DOESN'T SAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO WE ARE STILL VINCENT SIEBERT.

MICHAEL. GILES. GEORGINA. MATTHIAS. MICHELLE.

TATER. FREMEA. SEIDEL. MARGARITA SEIDEL. IRENE

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IF YOU'RE SOMEWHERE OUT THERE, PLEASE COME DOWN.

HOW ABOUT LEYTON DAVIS? OH, DO WE GET A WINNER? NO. NOT YET. OKAY. LEYTON. DAVIS. LYNETTE. CANARINI.

CARLA. CANARINI. JAYDEN. DUKE. EFFIE'S IS AMATO'S.

EXCUSE ME IF I BUTCHER SOME OF THESE NAMES, BUT I'M DOING MY BEST.

KARINA HUNTER. THERE'S TWO GUYS RIGHT THERE. JEFF.

JEFF. WELL, I SEE A. RENEE, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU CALLED OUT.

I THINK BLAKE'S HERE, OKAY.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU'RE FROM.

THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. SURE. BLAKE MCKEE.

OKAY. I OWN 800 ACRES AT THE WESTERN END OF LOZA RANCH.

THEY ARE LITERALLY MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST.

IT'S PROBABLY FAIR TO SAY THERE'S NOBODY MORE IMPACTED BY THE PROPOSAL THAN THAN I AM.

AND I'M HERE COMPLETE AND ABSOLUTE SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DID I GET MORE WINNERS? OH. I IF I'VE CALLED YOUR NAME, YOU'RE NEXT. WHOEVER.

THAT'S OKAY. JUST LET ME KNOW WHO YOU ARE. I LIKE, BY THE WAY, THAT WE KNOW IT'S RED, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS WHITE, SO WE'RE NOT JUST CHECKING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS JOHN BRENNER, AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU GUYS TO VOTE NO ON THIS.

I'M A RESIDENT. I HAVE A BUSINESS HERE. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF PROMISES FROM THESE BIG LAWYERS, AND THERE'S NOTHING TO REALLY HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE.

SO I'D ASK THAT WE WOULD JUST VOTE NO IN GENERAL.

I MEAN, WE HAVE I WAS LOOKING IT UP. WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE 4000 SOMETHING DATA CENTERS IN AMERICA, LIKE 165 HERE IN ARIZONA. THEY HAVE 449 IN CHINA WITH THE COMMUNIST STATE WHERE THEY WATCH EVERYBODY OVER THERE, RIGHT? LIKE, DO WE WANT THAT HERE? I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND STUFF.

BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO SAY NO, I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO VOTE NO.

THEY SAID IF NOT HERE, THEN WHERE? I THINK WE HAVE DEFINITELY PLENTY OF THOSE.

I DON'T WANT TO SACRIFICE OUR, OUR FARMLANDS OUT HERE IN ELOY, THE FARMERS THERE.

THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS. THE BEES.

I'VE SEEN THAT THAT THE WILDLIFE IS AFFECTED BY THE HUM FROM THIS.

ANOTHER PROMISING THIS AND THAT. BUT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS WOULD VOTE NO ON THIS AGAIN.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LIVING IN A VACUUM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES. YOU HAVE PEOPLE RIOTING AND LIKE, I MEAN, THEY'RE SHOOTING AT PEOPLE'S DOORS AND LIKE AT THEIR SUPERVISORS IN NEW JERSEY BECAUSE OF THESE DATA CENTERS AND STUFF.

LIKE THEY'RE, IT'S GETTING PRETTY CRAZY. I JUST ASKED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE BECAUSE NOBODY SEEMS TO WANT THIS.

IT'S LIKE 90% OF AMERICA SEEMS LIKE DOESN'T WANT THIS AND THEY'RE JUST JAMMING THIS DOWN OUR THROATS.

AND WHAT ARE THESE EVEN FOR? DO THEY, DO THEY HAVE TO DISCLOSE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR? I MEAN, CAN THIS JUST BE SOME CRYPTO MINE FROM SOME, SOME BILLIONAIRE FROM MIAMI DOING A CRYPTO MINE HERE, USING UP ALL OF OUR WATER RESOURCES? I MEAN, LAST I CHECKED, THERE WAS ON A.GOV SAID, WE'RE 400 FOOT LOW IN THE AQUIFER, RIGHT? I MEAN, WASN'T KEARNEY SUPPOSED TO BE OUT OF WATER? AREN'T THEY, LIKE 20, 20 MILES AWAY OR 40, 30 MILES AWAY OR SOMETHING? THEY WERE SAYING LAST MONTH? KEARNEY THE MAYOR OR ISN'T THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO. I MEAN, WE GOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO SUCK UP A BUNCH OF WATER.

I DEFINITELY THINK THIS IS A VERY BAD IDEA FOR OUR COUNTY.

AND I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO AFFECT US HERE TOO.

SO I WOULD ONCE AGAIN ASK FOR A NO VOTE ON THIS PLEASE.

THANK YOU. WHAT WAS YOUR NAME, SIR? I'M SORRY. STRAWN.

BRUNAUER. I HAVEN'T EVEN CALLED YOU YET. OKAY.

BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH CARD. YOURS. THEY CALLED. THEY TOLD ME. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THEY JUST TOLD US TO COME DOWN HERE FROM THE OTHER BUILDING. OKAY, OKAY. I DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO REMEMBER. IF I CALL YOU AGAIN, DON'T SHOW UP. PLEASE. OKAY, OKAY.

OKAY. THANKS. OKAY, SO LET'S GO WITH LEIGHTON DAVIS, LYNETTE KATERINI, CARLA.

CANARINI. JAYDEN. DUKE. IRENE. KANAKIS. MARGARITA.

SEIDEL. EFREM. MIA. SEIDEL. MICHELLE. TAYLOR.

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AND THEN VINCENT SIEBERT, ANY OF YOU AROUND? WHO DO I GET NOW? YOU'LL WORK. THAT'S GREAT. MY NAME IS FEC. I'VE LIVED IN COOLIDGE FOR 17 YEARS.

I HAVE TWO CHEMICAL ENGINEERING DEGREES FROM COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY.

THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO SPEAK FOR AN HOUR, YET EACH ONE OF US GETS ONLY THREE MINUTES.

MAYBE THERE ARE PROCEDURAL REASONS FOR THAT DIFFERENCE, BUT I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM WHERE WE'RE SITTING.

THE CORPORATION ASKING SOMETHING FROM OUR COUNTY GETS AN HOUR TO MAKE THEIR CASE.

THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE GET THREE MINUTES. WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE HERE AFTER THE ATTORNEYS, CONSULTANTS, DEVELOPERS LEAVE. WE LIVE WITH THE DECISIONS MADE IN THIS ROOM.

WE DEPEND UPON THE COUNTY'S WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS AND RESOURCES.

AND WE ELECTED YOU TO REPRESENT US. SO PLEASE DO NOT DISMISS US.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, DO NOT MISTAKE HAVING AUTHORITY OVER THE PUBLIC FOR HAVING AUTHORITY WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PUBLIC.

YOU TOOK AN OATH WHEN YOU ACCEPTED THESE POSITIONS.

BROKEN PUBLIC TRUST HAS CONSEQUENCES. PEOPLE REMEMBER WHO LISTENED TO THEM AND WHO DID NOT.

THEY REMEMBER AT ELECTION TIME. THEY REMEMBER WHEN PROMISES ARE MADE AGAIN AND THEY REMEMBER WHO STOOD WITH THEIR COMMUNITY WHEN IT MATTERED.

WHEN YOU DRIVE HOME TONIGHT, PLEASE ASK YOURSELVES, DID I USE THE AUTHORITY ENTRUSTED TO ME TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE I REPRESENT, OR DID I USE IT TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR POWERFUL INTERESTS TO GET WHAT THEY WANT.

PLEASE ASK YOURSELF THAT TODAY. YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THIS COMMUNITY WHOSE VOICES MATTER.

PLEASE HONOR YOUR OATHS. I BROKE AN OATH YEARS AGO WHEN MY MOTHER HAD CANCER.

TO THIS DAY, MY FAMILY PRAY. PRAY PAYS FOR THIS.

BROKEN OATHS RESULT IN PERSONAL PROBLEMS. WE FEEL WE'VE BEEN BETRAYED.

BUT WE NEED TO REMEMBER. DID WE BETRAY THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR US? SO PLEASE RESPECT YOUR CONSTITUENTS. PROTECT THIS COMMUNITY.

I BEG YOU TO PLEASE VOTE NO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY. OH, DON'T KEEP BRINGING MORE CARDS. YOU JUST GO BACK ANYWAY.

LAYTON DAVIS, LYNETTE CANARINI, CARLA CANARINI, JAYDEN DUKE.

AND IF YOU JUST ARE BACK THERE, JUST COME ON DOWN AND TELL ME WHO YOU ARE.

JAYDEN DUKE, LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER. START OFF, PLEASE VOTE.

NO. WE DON'T WANT IT. NOBODY HERE WANTS IT. ON THE SLIGHT CASE.

IT DOES GET PASSED. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE LOCAL PROPERTY OWNERS? WELL, OWNERS, WHEN THESE WATER USAGES GET PUT UP AND OUR WELLS GO DRY.

HOUSING MARKET VALUES DROP BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE NEXT TO A DATA CENTER SOLAR FIELD.

WHAT KIND OF PLAN IS THAT GOING TO HAVE? YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF IMPACT IS THAT GOING TO HAVE ON THOSE OF US IN THE COMMUNITY? THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR TODAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.

OKAY. LAYTON DAVIS. LYNETTE. CANARINI. CARLA CANARINI.

OH. I'M SORRY, IRENE TANAKA. JUST WAIT UNTIL I HIT SOMEBODY THAT LIGHTS UP IN THE BACK THERE.

MARGARITA. SEIDEL. MICHAEL DIKES. YOU'LL WORK.

THAT'S GOOD. I THANK YOU. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WELL, I, I COULDN'T NERVE DAMAGE IN MY FINGERS, AND I DON'T.

RIGHT. WELL. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. MY NAME IS MICHAEL PAUL DIKES.

I'M A COMBAT DISABLED VETERAN THAT LIVES IN OUTSIDE OF MARANA.

WE DON'T WANT MARANA TO ANNEX US, BY THE WAY, AND MISSILE BAY.

STAY ON YOUR SIDE OF THE FREEWAY, PLEASE. THIS DATA CENTER IS RIDICULOUS.

THERE ARE 116 CURRENTLY IN ARIZONA ON TRACK FOR 160 THAT ARE CURRENTLY TRACKED IN UNDER DEVELOPMENT.

THIS WILL KILL MY PROPERTY VALUE. I CANNOT WORK I HAVEN'T WORKED A DAY SINCE JULY THE 5TH, 2005, WHEN I WAS INJURED IN A MORTAR ATTACK IN AFGHANISTAN.

IF MY PROPERTY VALUE GOES DOWN, I WILL F..ING DIE.

OH! WHAT? LANGUAGE, PLEASE. YOU KNOW WHAT THIS CALLS FOR? LANGUAGE. THIS CALLS FOR OUTRAGE. NO, SIR. I WANT YOU TO HAVE THE SAME SENSE OF URGENCY THAT I HAVE ABOUT MY.

THE ONLY THING THAT I OWN GETTING SCREWED. WHO YOU LOOKING AT?

[01:35:04]

I BELIEVE I HAVE THREE MINUTES. PLEASE USE THEM EFFECTIVELY.

SO I'M GONNA GET BACK ON SUBJECT. THIS IS JUST.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT HIM. JUST TALK. I GOT PTSD, MAN.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS DATA CENTER. I STAY UP NIGHTS WORRYING ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO MY PROPERTY VALUE.

WORRYING ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO THE WATER TABLE. BECAUSE THAT CRAP THAT THAT THAT LIAR, I MEAN, LAWYER SAID THAT'S GARBAGE. HOW COME HE DIDN'T HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY SPEAK THAT LIVES NEXT TO ONE BECAUSE HE CAN'T FIND ANYBODY THAT'LL SAY ANYTHING POSITIVE. THIS IS BULL SH.T. I'M SORRY. BULLSH.T.

LANGUAGE. THIS IS PATENT. WE HEAR. WE HEAR YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. PLEASE MIND YOUR LANGUAGE. YOU. WILL YOU MIND YOUR BUSINESS? DO NOT LECTURE ME, SIR. I WILL HAVE YOU REMOVED.

ABSOLUTELY. LECTURE. YOU STOP GETTING PAID BY THESE COMPANIES. REMOVE HIM.

OKAY. LAYTON. DAVIS. LYNETTE. CANARINI.

MA'AM. HI, THIS IS IRENE BALDWIN. ACTUALLY DIFFERENT.

IRENE WAS CALLED, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SHE'S HERE RIGHT NOW.

I'M ALSO IRENE. OKAY, YOU'RE GOING TO THROW ME OFF, SO.

OKAY. OKAY. GO AHEAD. YEAH. ANYHOW, A FEW THINGS I WANTED TO NOTE.

THE AIR QUALITY IN ARIZONA IS ALREADY PRETTY BAD.

WE HAVE THE NATURAL DUST CONDITIONS HERE. WE HAVE ALL THE EXHAUST.

AND WHAT DO YOU CALL THE SMOG THAT COMES OVER FROM CALIFORNIA? WE HAVE OUR OWN GENERATED SMOG AND EXHAUST ADDING ADDITIONAL GAS POWER GENERATING CAPACITY.

I BELIEVE IT'S REALLY A BAD IDEA. I URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THAT.

ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO AND MY HOUSE, BY THE WAY, MY HOUSE IS 12 MILES AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED SITE, SO I WOULD BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY ALL THESE ADDITIONAL GAS GENERATING PLANTS.

ANOTHER FEW THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION ABOUT THE PRESENTATION OF THE APPLICANT VERY CRAFTILY PUT TOGETHER.

PRESENTATION. VERY IMPRESSIVE. NICE NUMBERS. IS THERE ANY MECHANISM FOR CHEWING UP DATA CENTERS ARE KNOWN NOTORIOUS FOR BEING LOW MANPOWER MAINTAINS ONCE EVERYTHING IS UP AND GOING, REALLY 300 WHATEVER JOBS AS A PERMANENT DIRECT JOBS AND UP TO 700 INDIRECT. I HAVE ANYBODY LOOKED AT THE WORLDWIDE OR NATION AVERAGE OF EMPLOYEES PER DATA CENTER OR PER SQUARE FOOT, AND WHERE IS THE MECHANISM THAT IS GOING TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE THE APPLICANT TO THE PROMISES MADE? I THINK OVERALL, I AGREE WITH ALL THE OTHER CONCERNS, BUT THESE TWO REALLY STAND OUT THAT THE PROMISES THAT LOOK NICE ON PAPER, THERE IS NO MECHANISM FOR CHEWING UP OR VERIFYING COMPLIANCE.

ALL THESE RELATIONS. THERE IS NO MECHANISM OR CAPACITY AT THE COUNTY TO ENFORCE THEM.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS. WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR DECISION, I URGE YOU TO PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS INITIATIVE.

THANK YOU. AND I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS YOUR NAME? IRENE BALDWIN.

OKAY, I FOUND YOU. SO JUST SO I DON'T CALL YOU, TAKE ME OFF THE LIST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHO ARE YOU, MA'AM, IF I'VE CALLED YOUR NAME.

COME ON DOWN. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS KARINA HUNTER.

I AM A RED ROCK RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER, AND I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE NO ON REZONING.

WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I CHOSE TO MAKE OUR HOME HERE IN RED ROCK, WE UNDERSTOOD THAT PINAL COUNTY WOULD GROW.

I AM NOT OPPOSED TO GROWTH OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT GROWTH SHOULD BENEFIT COMMUNITIES THAT ALREADY EXIST HERE, NOT ASK THOSE COMMUNITIES TO CARRY LONG TERM RISKS.

WE HAVE HEARD PROMISES OF JOBS, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND OTHER BENEFITS TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT PROJECTIONS AND PROMISES ARE NOT GUARANTEES.

ONCE THIS LAND IS REZONED, HOWEVER, THAT DECISION IS VERY REAL AND THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE WILL BE LEFT WITH WHATEVER CONSEQUENCES FOLLOW.

WE ARE THE ONES WHO WILL LIVE WITH THE EFFECTS ON OUR ENVIRONMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE, RESOURCES, PROPERTY AND QUALITY OF LIFE LONG AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS FINISHED.

A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE SHOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WHILE SERIOUS QUESTIONS REMAIN UNANSWERED, THE APPLICANT SHOULD DEMONSTRATE WITH CREDIBLE EVIDENCE AND THIS DEVELOPMENT BELONGS HERE AND CAN CO-EXIST RESPONSIBLY WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

THERE IS NO HARM IN SLOWING DOWN AND DEMANDING BETTER INFORMATION.

THERE CAN BE TREMENDOUS HARM IN DISCOVERING LATER THAT WE MOVED TOO QUICKLY.

PLEASE PROTECT THE COMMUNITY THAT IS ALREADY HERE AND VOTE NO ON THIS REZONING.

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YOUR LAST NAME WAS HUNTER, CORRECT? DID YOU FILL OUT A CARD? I DID, YOU DID? OKAY. I JUST HAVEN'T FOUND IT.

OKAY. I'LL TRY. I'LL TRY NOT TO CALL YOU AGAIN.

OKAY. LAYTON. DAVIS. LYNETTE. CANARINI. CARLA.

CANARINI. VINCENT. SIEBERT. GEORGINA. MATTHIAS.

KARINA. HUNTER. HAHA! THERE YOU ARE. MICHELLE.

TATER. JEFFREY. MIA. SEIDEL. MARGARITA. SEIDEL.

IRENE. I'M GLAD I'M NOT PLAYING BASEBALL. THIS WOULD BE LIKE STRIKEOUT. OKAY LET'S GO. OKAY. I'M NOT SEEING ANY OF YOU FOLKS SHOWING UP.

OKAY, LET'S GO WITH ALEX HUNTER. I'LL START A NEW LIST HERE.

ALEX. HUNTER. FERNANDO. LEBRON. ALEXANDRA. MOEN.

KAREN. OLIVER. SONIA. LOVELAND. OH, I HIT, I HIT ONE.

YOU GOT A WINNER. I AM KAREN OLIVER. I LIVE IN SAN TAN VALLEY, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING QUEEN CREEK, SAN TAN VALLEY, INDIVISIBLE, AND THE PINAL COUNTY COALITION TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THIS PUBLIC SPACE. WE APPRECIATE YOU BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO LET PEOPLE SPEAK.

FIRST, QUEEN CREEK, SAN TAN VALLEY, INDIVISIBLE AND THE PINAL COUNTY COALITION SAY DITTO TO ALL OF THE COMMENTS OPPOSING THE DATA CENTERS IN OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTY.

IN RESPONSE TO THE DECIBEL OUTPUT, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION RECOMMENDS DATA OUT A DECIBEL OUTPUT OF 45DB DURING THE DAY AND LOWER AT NIGHT IN COMPARISON TO THE 60 AND 55.

WE ASK THAT YOU PROTECT OUR DESERT LANDSCAPE AND OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND ALSO WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK SHERIFF TEEPLE AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR NOT RENEWING THE FLOCK CAMERA CONTRACT AND ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER IF THEY DO NOT TAKE DOWN THE CAMERAS, IF YOU WOULD REPLACE THEM.

WE'RE NOT ON THAT SUBJECT. OKAY. THIS SUBJECT PLEASE.

THANK YOU. HOPEFULLY WE CAN WELCOME PEOPLE TO OUR COUNTY WITHOUT DATA CENTERS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS OLIVER. OKAY. SONIA.

SONIA, I GOTTA FIND SONIA. SONIA. SONIA. LOVELAND, YOU GOTTA RECOGNIZE.

YES. YOU'RE ON THE WANTED POSTER. SO WE'VE GOT YOU.

THERE WE GO. OKAY. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND SUPERVISORS.

MY NAME IS SONIA LOVELAND AND I LIVE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF MARICOPA.

I AM OPPOSED TO THIS DATA DATA CENTER FOR THE REASONS THAT YOU ARE HEARING AND WILL HEAR TODAY.

YOU HELD A WORK SESSION NOT LONG AGO THAT TALKED ABOUT POWER.

WHAT ABOUT WATER? WHAT ABOUT NOISE POLLUTION? WHAT ABOUT BRIGHT LIGHTS? WHAT ABOUT WASTE? WHAT ABOUT WILDLIFE? I JUST WISH YOU ALL WOULD LOOK AT ME, MR. GOODMAN.

THANK YOU. I ASSUME YOU ALL KNOW WE ARE IN A DROUGHT.

A DROUGHT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES.

WHILE SOME OF YOU BELIEVE THAT IT IS NOT YOUR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY, THAT IT'S THE OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY, I DISAGREE. IT IS, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION THAT YOU ARE THE STEWARDS OF OUR COUNTY.

I CAN ONLY ASSUME ANY WATER THAT'S GOING TO BE PROVIDED WILL BE FROM AQUIFERS.

AQUIFERS THAT SUPPLY LIFE TO THE RESIDENTS THAT PUT YOU IN OFFICE.

THIS IS A TIME TO PUT PEOPLE FIRST, HEAR OUR VOICE AND ACT ON WHAT WE ARE ASKING.

DENY THE ZONING CHANGE AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE HOW WE OPPOSE THIS DATA CENTER POWER ENERGY PLANT TO BE BUILT IN OUR COUNTY. NOW LISTEN AND ACT ON BEHALF OF US.

P.S. I DO BELIEVE IN CAPITALISM, BUT I DO NOT RISK, DO NOT LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE A RISK ON RAPING OUR WATER RESOURCES HERE IN PINAL COUNTY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SURE. OKAY. AND I BET I'VE CALLED YOUR NAME.

SO COME ON DOWN. JUST TELL US WHO YOU ARE. GOOD MORNING, MR.

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THANK YOU. OKAY. MY NAME IS ALEX HUNTER. I'M A RED ROCK RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER, AND I'M HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THE DATA CENTER PROJECT.

THIS DEBATE HAS LARGELY BEEN FRAMED AS ECONOMICS VERSUS THE SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR ENVIRONMENT.

I REJECT THAT CHOICE. TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT ONCE.

THIS PROJECT MAY CREATE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, BUT IT WILL ALSO IMPOSE ENVIRONMENTAL AND RESOURCE COSTS THAT OUR COMMUNITY WILL LIVE WITH FOR GENERATIONS. I HAVE HEARD SUPERVISOR MILLER SAY REPEATEDLY THAT IF THEY DO NOT HAVE THE WATER OR POWER, THEY SIMPLY WILL NOT BUILD. RESPECTFULLY. RESOURCE SCARCITY SHOULD NOT SUBSTITUTE FOR RESPONSIBLE LAND USE POLICY.

THE QUESTION IS NOT SIMPLY WHETHER A PRIVATE COMPANY CAN OBTAIN THE RESOURCES TO BUILD.

HERE IT IS WHETHER DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SCALE IS IN THE LONG TERM INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.

I WOULD WAGER THAT MOST OF US IN THIS ROOM BELIEVE IN CAPITALISM.

BUT THIS IS NOT SIMPLY THE INVISIBLE HAND OF THE MARKET.

REZONING IS AN AFFIRMATIVE ACT OF GOVERNMENT AT THE STATE LEVEL.

ARIZONA HAS IMPOSED A THREE YEAR MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTER TAX INCENTIVES, WHICH IT CONSIDERS THE PATH WHICH IT CONSIDERS THE PATH FORWARD.

WHILE EXCUSE ME, WHILE IT CONSIDERS THE PATH FORWARD. YET HERE IN PINAL COUNTY, WE'RE DETERMINED TO MOVE FORWARD NOW.

YOU RECENTLY HELD A SPECIAL COUNCIL WORK SESSION ON DATA CENTERS AND POWER DEMAND.

BUT WHERE WERE THE ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERTS? WHERE WAS THE EQUALLY SERIOUS EXAMINATION OF HEAT, AIR QUALITY WATER AND LONG TERM ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES? RESIDENTS WITH EXPERTISE IN THESE FIELDS HAVE ALREADY RAISED THOSE CONCERNS.

THEIR EXPERTISE DESERVES SERIOUS CONSIDERATION BEFORE YOU MAKE IRREVERSIBLE LAND USE DECISION.

THERE HAS ALSO BEEN CONSIDERABLE, CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION ABOUT LEGACY.

BUT THIS SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT YOUR LEGACY OR MINE.

THE PEOPLE WITH THE GREATEST STAKE IN THIS DECISION ARE THE SILENT MAJORITY.

NOT IN THIS ROOM ARE CHILDREN. WE HOLD THIS LAND, ITS WATER, ITS AIR, AND ITS FUTURE IN TRUST IN STEWARDSHIP FOR THEM. OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO LEAVE THEM SOMETHING WORTH INHERITING.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ITEMS. WE MUST DEMAND BOTH. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. THANK YOU.

IF I HAVE, I CALLED YOUR NAME, SIR. OKAY, THEN HOLD FOR A SECOND.

FERNANDO. LEBRON. ALEXANDRIA. MOAN. ALEX. HUNTER.

LEIGHTON. DAVIS. IRINA. KANAKIS. I'M SORRY. IRENE.

KANAKIS. MICHELLE. TAYLOR. VINCENT. SIEBERT. CARLA.

CANTARINI. LYNETTE. CANARINI. ARE YOU? FERNANDO? FERNANDO. YOU'RE. FERNANDO. I HIT ONE, OKAY. GO AHEAD.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS FERNANDO LEBRON AND I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING SMART LOCAL 359.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN STRONG SUPPORT OF ITEMS ONE AND TWO, THE DATA CENTER PROJECT.

FOR US, THIS PROJECT IS IS ABOUT MORE THAN A DATA CENTER.

IT IS ABOUT OPPORTUNITY. IT IS ABOUT PUTTING ARIZONA TRADESPEOPLE TO WORK PROJECTS THAT CAN PROVIDE A GOOD PAYING CAREER AND A FUTURE FOR WORKING FAMILIES.

SMART LOCAL 359 REPRESENTS SKILLED SHEET METAL WORKERS WHO TAKE TREMENDOUS PRIDE IN THE WORK WE DO.

OUR MEMBERS ARE TRAINED, HIGHLY SKILLED AND READY TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ARIZONA NEEDS TO COMPETE IN A RAPIDLY CHANGING ECONOMY.

PROJECTS LIKE ALSO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THAT WORKFORCE TO WORK RIGHT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY CREATE CONSTRUCTION JOBS, SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES, GENERATE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR APPRENTICES TO LEARN A SKILLED TRADE AND BUILD A CAREER THAT CAN SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES.

AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT LAST POINT. APPRENTICESHIP IS NOT JUST A JOB TRAINING PROGRAM.

IT IS A PATHWAY TO THE MIDDLE CLASS. IT GIVES YOUNG PEOPLE AND WORKING ARIZONIANS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN A CRAFT, EARN A PAYCHECK, AND BUILD A CAREER WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE ON ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF STUDENT DEBT.

WE BELIEVE ARIZONA SHOULD CONTINUE TO WELCOME RESPONSIBLE INVESTMENT WHILE MAKING SURE ARIZONA WORKERS HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE.

WE WANT TO SEE THESE PROJECTS BUILT BY SKILLED WORKERS SAFELY AND TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS.

THE LAW DATA CENTER PROJECT REPRESENTS EXACTLY THE KIND OF INVESTMENT THAT CAN HELP ARIZONA CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD, WHILE CREATING REAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE WHO CALL THIS STATE HOME.

ON BEHALF OF SMART LOCAL 359 AND OUR MEMBERS, I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE BOARD TO SUPPORT ITEMS ONE AND TWO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

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COME ON DOWN. GOOD MORNING. I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON ITEM ONE AND TWO. I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A BIG SPEECH, BUT I'M GOING TO JUST TALK ABOUT SOME BULLET POINTS HERE.

THE MAIN CONCERNS WITH THE DATA CENTER FOR NEARBY COMMUNITIES USUALLY ARE, AND THEY ARE IN THIS CASE, WATER USE, ELECTRICITY DEMAND, ELECTRICITY DEMAND, NOISE, LAND USE AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, A LITTLE BIT OF SPECULATION.

BUT IF A NEARBY LANDOWNER LANDOWNER IS EXCITED ABOUT IT, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY MAY BE GETTING AN OFFER FOR THEIR PIECE OF LAND.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND. BUT WHAT'S WHAT'S A BIG CONCERN IS VERY HIGH WATER CONSUMPTION, HIGH ELECTRICITY DEMAND, POTENTIALLY HIGHER UTILITY COSTS, CONSTANT NOISE 24 OVER SEVEN.

AIR POLLUTION. WASTE HEAT. LARGE FACILITIES RELEASE SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF HEAT INTO THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT.

CONSTRUCTION. TRAFFIC. LARGE LAND FOOTPRINT. PRESSURE ON SCARCE LOCAL WATER SUPPLIES.

24 OVER SEVEN. INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY. NEW POWER AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

LOSS OF VEGETATION. OPEN SPACE. BACKUP GENERATOR TESTING.

POTENTIAL EFFECTS ON NEARBY PROPERTY VALUES ARE VERY SEVERE.

FIRE SAFETY CONCERNS AND YOU KNOW, LARGE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS BATTERIES, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

AND WE ALL KNOW WE HAVE PROBLEMS HERE WITH WATER, THE WATER TABLE, THE WATER AVAILABILITY ELECTRICITY.

WE HAVE MAJOR ISSUES. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE.

AND WE'RE HERE IN A BEAUTIFUL RURAL AREA. WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY, AND THIS ADVERSELY AFFECTS ALL OF US.

SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO VOTE NO. AND I'M SORRY, COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? MARIANNE. ARAM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, I'M LOOKING FOR PROBABLY YOU.

GO AHEAD. COME ON DOWN. JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU'RE FROM.

WHAT'S GOING ON, GENTLEMEN? I'M FROM. MY NAME IS ACCENT.

I'M FROM ILLINOIS. I MOVED OUT HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO FROM NEW JERSEY.

JUST BECAUSE. ONE FOR THE COST OF LIVING, AND TWO JUST BECAUSE IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL OUT HERE.

I NOTICED THIS GENTLEMAN TALKING ABOUT 600 ACRE FEET OF WATER ANNUALLY FOR THE DATA CENTER.

YOU GUYS KNOW HOW MUCH 600 ACRE FEET IS IN GALLONS? 325,000 GALLONS. IT'S 195 MILLION GALLONS A YEAR.

WE LIVE IN A DESERT. WATER IS IMPORTANT. OUT HERE, I FILL UP MY DOG'S BOWL MAYBE 3 OR 4 TIMES A DAY, AND HE SAYS THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT ON OUR DAY TO DAY WATER USE.

I DISAGREE WITH THAT. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, HE SAID, IT'S GOING TO BRING ALL THESE JOBS AND ALL THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THE COMMUNITIES AND ALL OF THAT IN PINAL COUNTY. LIKE I SAID, I LIVE IN ELOY.

THERE'S BLOCKS WITH ONE HOUSE ON THEM. THERE'S COMPLETELY EMPTY LOTS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THERE IS DOWNTOWN IS EMPTY STOREFRONTS. IF YOU WANT TO BRING JOBS TO PINAL COUNTY, START THERE.

A DATA CENTER OUT IN THE DESERT. NOBODY'S GOING TO SEE.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO USE FOR GOD KNOWS WHAT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN THE INTEREST OF THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. ON TOP OF THAT, WITH THE DROUGHT AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT WE'RE FACING, THE WATER SHORTAGES AND PENDING, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WATER.

MAYBE I'M JUST IGNORANT, BUT 195 MILLION GALLONS, GENTLEMEN.

HUGE AMOUNT OF WATER. PLUS ALL THE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IRONWOOD, I BELIEVE. I LIKE GOING OUTDOORS.

I HIKE IN IRONWOOD ALL THE TIME. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES I'VE EVER SEEN.

LIKE I SAID, COMING FROM NEW JERSEY, I COME FROM WHERE IT'S POLLUTED AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, FACTORIES AND DATA CENTERS ALL OVER THE PLACE OUT THERE.

I KIND OF MOVED OUT OF THERE TO GET AWAY FROM THAT.

AND THEY WANT TO PUT THAT RIGHT NEXT TO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST NATIONAL FORESTS WE HAVE AROUND OUT HERE, A NATIONAL MONUMENT RATHER. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE WISE COURSE OF ACTION MOVING FORWARD.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I KNOW THESE GUYS ARE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE. THEY HAVE FAMILIES, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, STUFF THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR. THEY NEED TO MAKE MONEY. I GET IT, I WORK DOWN AT THE AIR PARK, SO I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO WORK WITH MY HANDS. INVEST IN THE COMMUNITIES.

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BUT WE COULD GET THE SAME TAX REVENUE FROM BUILDING OUT THE EMPTY LOTS AND ABANDONED BUILDINGS THAT I SEE EVERY DAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL.

I THINK IT'S BAD FOR THE FUTURE OF THE COUNTY AND JUST BAD FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.

OKAY. I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS YOUR LAST NAME? CEDAR.

CEDAR. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO COME BACK TO ALEXANDRIA.

MON. ALEX. HUNTER. LAYTON. DAVIS. NANETTE. CANARINI.

CARLA. CANARINI. VINCENT. SIEBERT. MICHELLE. TAYLOR.

THEN WE'LL GO. IRENE. IRENE. CLONORCHIS. OKAY.

I'M NOT DOING WELL HERE. HOW ABOUT DAVE LAMOUREUX? FRANK CAZZOLA. JERRY MCCULLEY.

CUPID. CEBALLOS. OH, I HIT SOMEBODY. OH, I GOT ONE.

IF. DID I JUST CALL YOUR NAME, MA'AM? I DID. WHAT ARE YOU, JERRY? NO, NO. THEN THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T CALL YOU. YOU'LL WORK.

HI THERE. I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

PLEASE STATE. THANK YOU. SO I'VE BEEN ASKED TO READ THIS LETTER ON BEHALF OF LORI FULLER OF THUNDERBIRD FARMS. MARICOPA? SHE SAID, JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES AND BELIEVE I'M HER.

APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS WHAT'S ON MY MIND.

A COMPLETE LACK OF RESPECT FOR PENILE COUNTY AND PROCESS.

THE PLANNERS AND PA'S. YOU THE SUPERVISORS BY THE LAND BANKERS FOR LAND.

THE RESPONSE OF BERLIN LAND WAS TO PROVIDE ACCURATE, VERIFIABLE AND LEGITIMATE INFORMATION TO EVERYONE.

WHAT WE GOT WAS SHENANIGANS. LAST MINUTE MASSIVE CHANGE AND REQUEST FOR CONTINUATION ON MAY 27TH.

LAST MINUTE CHANGE TO THE REPRESENTATION. LAST MINUTE ADDITION TO STIPULATIONS.

ANOTHER LAST MINUTE ADDITION TO STIPULATIONS.

ONE TERM I HEARD USED TO DESCRIBE THIS WACKY WELL, WE COULD NOT AGREE MORE.

AND THEIR NEW POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. 53 PAGES OF NON-INFORMATION.

THE NEW TITLE POWER AND TECH PROJECT. EVEN THEY KNOW THIS HYPERSCALE DATA CENTER IS DISASTER IN THE VALLEY FLOODPLAIN. OTHER NON INFORMATIONAL SLIDES. ASSOCIATED OFFICE AND FACILITIES.

FACILITIES FOR WHAT? HOW MANY WHERE THE FLOODPLAIN.

THERE WERE ONLY TWO MENTIONS OF THIS MASSIVE CLASS A FLOODPLAINS THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO FIND.

THEY HAVE THE WATER STOPPING AT THEIR PRETTY LITTLE HEDGES.

HAS ANYONE TOLD THE WATER THAT IT CAN STOP THERE? THE STIPULATIONS OVER SIX PAGES ABOUT THE NEW AND IMPROVED STIPULATIONS.

DO THEY KNOW THAT STIPULATIONS ARE BASICALLY ONLY WORTH THE PAPER THEY'RE WORTH WORK WRITTEN ON? ENFORCEABLE? MAYBE, BUT AT WHAT COST TO THE COUNTY? AND HOW BAD WILL IT GET BEFORE THOSE STIPULATIONS ARE ENFORCED? THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS. NONE WITHOUT THE DISCLAIMER SUBJECT TO FUTURE DESIGN WORK BEFORE HEARINGS.

ALL APPROVED. LAW PASSED BECAUSE NO ONE IN RED ROCKS KNEW.

NO ONE IN PINAL COUNTY KNEW WATER POWER, EMISSION, NOISE, LIGHT POLLUTION.

ALL GUESSWORK RIGHT NOW. NO HYPERSCALER HAS EVEN BEEN BUILT IN THE DESERT BEFORE.

HOW MANY OF THESE ATTACHED LETTERS OR SERVICE ARE ACTUAL CONTRACTS, JOBS AND INVESTMENT? ONCE AGAIN, SPECULATIVE. SLIDE 47. JOBS VERSUS ACRE FEET.

FIVE. JOBS FOR AGRICULTURE. DID THEY FORGET TO EXPAND THAT INTO FOOD? RESTAURANTS, GROCERY STORES, TAXES. FINALLY, A REAL NUMBER 15.5 MILLION IN MARICOPA, OVER 28% OVER 28 DATA CENTERS EQUALS 553,571 PER DATA CENTER.

THANK YOU. MR.. MINISTER. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

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COME ON DOWN. HOWDY. MY NAME IS CAPTAIN JERRY MCCULLOCH.

UNITED STATES ARMY RETIRED. I LIVE OVER IN RED ROCK.

AND IN MY RETIRED WORLD. I GO OUT AND TAKE PICTURES SPECIFICALLY OF THE PETROGLYPHS THAT ARE OUT THERE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO AND ON RANCH.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? OH, YEAH.

HEY, HEY, HEY. I CAN HEAR MYSELF. ALL RIGHT. SO, HEY, LOOK, WE HAVE A HUGE CROSS SECTION OF ARTIFACTS THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THEIR RANCH.

PETROGLYPHS. THERE'S GOING TO BE PLENTY OF ARTIFACTS GOING TO BE UNDER THERE, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT BULLDOZERS IN THERE AND DO SOME WORK.

AND I HAVE YET TO HEAR ANYTHING ADDRESSING HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ON THAT PROPERTY.

IT'S THEIR PROPERTY. I UNDERSTAND THEY CAN DO WITH IT WHAT THEY WANT, BUT THEY ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING CARE OF THESE ARTIFACTS AND THEY ARE SURROUNDING THE IRONWOOD NATIONAL FOREST. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING SOME OF MY ART.

ARIZONA HIGHWAYS, 19TH MAY THIS YEAR. ALL RIGHT.

I TOOK THOSE PICTURES BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE THAT BEFORE WE HAD A TELEPHONE POLE OR ANYTHING ELSE SHOW UP.

SO IF YOU ACTUALLY DO AGREE TO DO THIS, YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING ME A FAVOR, RIGHT? BECAUSE MY PICTURES WILL THEN BECOME FAR MORE VALUABLE.

BUT MY VOTE IS NO. MY VOTE IS NO, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S ACTUALLY PUT THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF THOUGHT INTO TURNING DIRT ON THIS PROJECT.

I KNOW BECAUSE I USED TO WORK AT THE PENTAGON AND BEFORE I WORKED AT THE PENTAGON, I DID A LOT OF CONTRACTING STUFF FOR GWOT GOOD TIMES.

GENTLEMEN, PLEASE DO YOUR JOBS. GIVE IT DUE DILIGENCE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR.

IF I'VE CALLED YOUR NAME AND YOU'RE IN THE BACK, COME ON. OH, HAVE I? I HAVEN'T CALLED YOU YET. OKAY. DON'T GO AWAY.

I KNOW. I KNOW WHO YOU ARE. OKAY. LET ME JUST CALL THESE REAL QUICK.

ALEXANDRIA. MOAN. ALEX. HUNTER. LEIGHTON. DAVIS.

LYNETTE. CANARINI. CARLA. CANARINI. DAVE. LAMOUREAUX.

MICHELLE. TAYLOR. VINCENT. SIEBERT. IRENE. XENAKIS.

WE'LL GO TO ANOTHER SET. CUPID. CEBALLOS. MICHAEL.

HELLO? SUPERVISOR. MILLER. MICHAEL. SOMETHING PICKED RATTLESNAKE PLACE.

I CAN'T READ THE LAST NAME. I'M SORRY, BUT MICHAEL, THAT LIVES ON RATTLESNAKE PLACE.

VANIA LARSON. STRAHAN. EVERYONE ELSE HAS LEFT THE CALL.

ELVIS IS OUT OF THE BUILDING, FOLKS. AND THEN FINALLY LOOKS LIKE JEFFREY FITZWATER CASTLE.

OKAY, HOW ABOUT BRIAN COX? BRIAN, I DON'T SEE YOU OUT THERE.

I'M JUST GOING TO GO DOWN THE LIST, AND SOMEBODY WILL HIT THE WIN BUTTON HERE IN A MINUTE.

DEBORAH. PATRICK. HOW ABOUT CORA PATRICK? HOW ABOUT RACHEL? OH, DID I GET ONE? COOL. WHO DID I GET? PATRICK? CORA. PATRICK. ALL RIGHT. RELATED TO DEBORAH, BY THE WAY. HI.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A MOMENT TO SPEAK WITH YOU GUYS.

I AM A 12 YEAR RESIDENT OF PINAL COUNTY AND CASA GRANDE.

SPECIFICALLY, MY HUSBAND AND I, AFTER HE RETIRED FROM THE MILITARY, BECAME RESIDENTS HERE TO RAISE OUR TWO BOYS.

I'VE LIVED IN THE SAME HOUSE, SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I HAVE WATCHED THE WATER QUALITY IN THOSE 12 YEARS GO FROM, YOU KNOW, SO-SO TO LITERALLY GETTING BOIL NOTICES TO USE WATER AT MY HOUSE.

AND WE WERE HAVING WATER QUALITY ISSUES. AND MY FRIEND WORKS FOR AN ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE AND HE GAVE ME A WATER TESTER STICK.

I PULLED THIS FROM MY SINK THIS MORNING. SAFE LEVELS OF COURSE ARE GOING TO BE GREEN AND THE HIGHEST IS 500 PLUS.

THAT SAYS RIGHT HERE ON THIS LABEL AND IN THE PAMPHLETS THAT SAYS THAT THE EPA RECOMMENDS FILTRATION FOR WATER, THIS IS WATER FROM MY TAP THAT I PAY FOR, THAT I GIVE MY ANIMALS THAT I BATHE IN, THAT I WASH MY CLOTHES THAT I COOK WITH.

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WE HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE MOVING INTO OUR COUNTY EVERY DAY USING THIS WATER.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE. PARDON ME. I'M SORRY. I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.

THIS TESTED AT 704 704. THAT IS 200 OVER WHAT THE EPA SAYS. AND THIS BREAKS DOWN INTO INCREMENTS FROM 0 TO 50 BEING GREEN 51 TO 150.

YOU GET THE TREND. THIS IS WHAT OUR WATER QUALITY IS LIKE RIGHT NOW.

WITHOUT THIS DATA CENTER AND I'M IN CASA GRANDE, THIS IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE.

WE HAVE A HABIT OF ALLOWING COMPANIES COMING IN AND SELLING US SNAKE OIL AND PROMISES AND DREAMS. IT HAPPENED WITH THE SOLAR COMPANIES TEN YEARS AGO.

GETTING EVERYBODY TO PUT SOLAR ON THEIR ROOF SO THAT THEY COULD BUILD INTO OUR ENERGY GRID, AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET MONEY BACK FROM APS AND THE OTHER COMPANY.

ASK ME HOW MANY TIMES I'VE GOTTEN A CHECK OR REBATE FROM APS FOR THE SOLAR THAT WAS PROMISED ON MY HOUSE.

ZERO. AND NOW, 12 YEARS LATER, I'M ACTUALLY GETTING 3 TO 4 MONTHS.

I HAVE A BILL FOR APS, AND I BUILT A SYSTEM THAT PUT 45% ABOVE MY HOME USE.

THESE COMPANIES, THEY'RE LIES. THEY SELL US LIES.

THEY GIVE US PROMISES AND DREAMS. AND WE'RE THE ONES STUCK HOLDING THE BAG AFTERWARDS.

OUR KIDS ARE AFFECTED. OUR LIVESTOCK ARE AFFECTED.

THE SOUND. MY HUSBAND WORKS AS AN AUDIOLOGY TECH.

I CAN BET YOU THAT THEY JUST DID REGULAR SOUND NOISES.

THEY DIDN'T DO SUBSONIC NOISES. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE EFFECTS? LONG TERM EFFECTS OF SUBSONIC SOUND ON LIVESTOCK, ANIMALS, ENVIRONMENT, AND HUMANS? I APPRECIATE YOUR GUYS'S TIME. I KNOW I'M PROBABLY GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO OUT.

I THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

PLEASE VOTE. NO. THANK YOU. SORRY I MADE YOUR DESK WET, MA'AM.

DID I CALL YOU ALREADY? IF I DID, I CALL. YOUR NAME DIDN'T COME ON DOWN.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR BEING PATIENT.

PLEASE GO AHEAD. JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND WHERE YOU'RE FROM GENERALLY.

MY NAME IS RACHEL COFFEY. I LIVE IN FLORENCE.

I THINK, LIKE MOST OF US, CAME TO FLORENCE TO LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY, OUTSIDE OF BIG BUILDINGS, TO BE IN NATURE, TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN.

IN A PLACE THAT CAN BE IN NATURE. I AM OPPOSING THE DATA CENTER, AND I THINK.

SORRY, I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THIS. IF WE DON'T FIGHT THIS FIGHT, OUR CHILDREN WILL HAVE TO FIGHT THIS FIGHT.

I HAVE NINE CHILDREN. MY OLDEST DIED BY SUICIDE. I THINK WE NEED A DIFFERENT WORLD WITH A DIFFERENT TRAJECTORY.

WE NEED GROWTH, BUT NOT THIS KIND OF GROWTH. THEY SAY THAT THERE WILL BE ALL THESE BENEFITS FOR TAXES.

WELL, IF THEY'RE GIVING US THAT MUCH, HOW MUCH WILL THEY MAKE OFF OF THIS? OUR CHILDREN WILL WORK AT THESE FACILITIES, WHICH IS NOT GOOD FOR THEIR HEALTH, OURS OR THE OTHER, OR ANYBODY IN NATURE.

MY GOAL AND MY MISSION TO MAKE A WORLD THAT WE CAN ALL LIVE TOGETHER.

NOT WITH THESE DATA CENTERS. BUT THAT WE CAN TRUST EACH OTHER AND TO GROW BEAUTIFUL THINGS.

IF YOU WALK IN THE ROOM, THERE'S A STAIRCASE, BEAUTIFUL ARTWORK, BEAUTIFUL STAIRCASE.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT KIND OF WORK? WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT KIND OF QUALITY? WE'RE BUILDING. WE'RE PUTTING UP THESE METAL BUILDINGS, HEATING UP.

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TO BE BETTER. BECAUSE OUR CHILDREN ARE HURTING.

THEY DON'T NEED THESE KIND OF JOBS. THEY NEED TO WORK ON A FARM THAT GROWS FOOD FOR PEOPLE.

THAT FEEDS PEOPLE WHERE ENERGY IS SUSTAINABLE, BUT NOT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY, ONE MORE TIME THROUGH FOR DAVE LAMOREAUX.

CUPID. CEBALLOS. BRIAN. COX. DEBORAH. PATRICK.

MICHAEL. MICHAEL. PECK. PECK. TARRED. RATTLESNAKE.

PLACE. I DON'T I'M SORRY. MICHAEL. TAYLOR. VINCENT.

SIEBERT. JEFFREY. FITZWATER. CASTLE. VANIA LARSON.

OH, I GOT SOMEBODY. WHO DID I GET? DEBORAH PATRICK.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. HI. I'M A THIRD GENERATION PINAL COUNTY RESIDENT AND GREW UP ON A RANCH, AND THOSE COWS DO NOT TAKE SHOWERS. BUT WHEN WE ARE IN A DROUGHT, WE NEED THAT WATER TO WATER THAT BERMUDA AND GET SOME FEED ON THE GROUND SO THAT WE CAN SURVIVE WITH THESE HERDS.

WE ARE. WE'RE THE DESERT, AND WE NEED THE WATER FOR THE PEOPLE, FOR THE ANIMALS.

AND I AGREE WITH ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOKE AGAINST THIS DATA CENTER.

AND THE REASON WE'RE NOT HAVING SECURE DATA IS BECAUSE THESE KIND OF PEOPLE WEASEL THEIR WAY IN WITH INCOMPLETE PLANS, AND THEN WE SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. IT'S A LOT HARDER TO GET THEM OUT THAN THEM TO GET IN.

WE NEED TO STOP THIS NOW. NUMBER ONE, WE'VE ALL GOT ENOUGH DATA UP THERE IN THE CLOUDS AS IT IS.

WE DON'T NEED THIS. WHAT WE NEED IS FOOD. WE NEED WATER TO GROW FOOD.

WE NEED HOUSES TO HOUSE OUR PEOPLE. AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN HAVING TO SLEEP OUT IN THE DESERT, THESE ARE ESSENTIALS. THESE ARE NOT LUXURIES.

I THINK IT'S VERY IRONIC THAT THIS PROJECT IS CALLED LA FORCE, WHICH IS A FEMALE GRIZZLY BEAR.

AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT GRIZZLY BEARS, IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE TO BE NEIGHBORS TO A GRIZZLY BEAR.

ONE OR THE OTHER OF YOU ARE GOING TO DIE. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE DATA CENTERS THAT ARE TAKING OVER THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO HAVE VERY, VERY DEADLY CONSEQUENCES. AND WE'RE NOT SEEING THE DATA AS IT REALLY IS.

BUT WE CAN GO LOOK AT CHINA. WE CAN LOOK AT MINNESOTA AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY PROTESTING THAT THEIR WATER IS CONTAMINATED FROM THESE DATA CENTERS. SO WE NEED TO REALLY STOP THIS. I URGE YOU TO REFUSE THIS REZONING AND TO COUNT IT AS A LEGACY THAT YOU HAVE IN PROTECTING PINAL COUNTY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. DID I CALL YOUR NAME? I THINK GOOD. GREAT. OKAY. OH, GOOD. GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING GOOD THIS MORNING. BOY, I TELL YOU WHAT, LIKE A DAPPER, YOU KNOW ALL OF US.

THE ONLY THING CONSTANT IN THE WORLD HAS CHANGED.

AND WE ALL HATE CHANGE. BUT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THINGS MOVE FORWARD.

I'M IN FOR THE PROJECT. I'M A LANDOWNER. I'VE BEEN DOWN HERE IN PINAL COUNTY FOR SINCE 1985.

WE OWN FARMS DOWN HERE. I'VE BEEN A FOURTH GENERATION NATIVE ARIZONANS.

WE'VE HAD FARMERS AND RANCHERS OUR WHOLE LIFE.

I LOVE FARMING, I LOVE RANCHING, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY MONEY.

THE REAL ESTATE IS WHAT MAKES THE MONEY AND WHAT MAKES THE MONEY IS DEVELOPMENT GROWTH.

AND WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT HERE. I WAS I'M ON THE SALT RIVER PROJECT COUNCIL WE HAD A THREE HOUR MEETING YESTERDAY IN PHOENIX WITH ALL THE MAIN PEOPLE FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. AND ALL THE SALT RIVER PROJECT PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THESE DATA CENTERS, AND THEY SAY THEY'RE COMING TO ARIZONA. THEY'RE COMING.

WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF IT AND BE READY FOR IT.

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THAT'S A GREAT THING. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY FIRE DEPARTMENT TO HELP THE AREA.

THEY'VE GOT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO GROW AND DEVELOP AND HELP.

AND IF YOU THINK OF IT, ARIZONA ONLY HAS 14% OF THE ENTIRE STATE AS PRIVATE GROUND.

DEEDED GROUND, 84% IS. FEDERAL GROUND. STATE LAND.

INDIAN RESERVATIONS. ALL FEDERAL. AND YET EVERYBODY WANTS TO TAKE THE PRIVATE GROUND AND TIE IT UP.

AND I OWN THE 640 ACRES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THESE GUYS ON BUMGARNER.

I'VE OWNED THAT FOR 22 YEARS. WHEN I MOVED DOWN THERE 22 YEARS AGO, I HAD A NICE PAVED ROAD ON BUMGARNER FROM PICACHO HIGHWAY, PAST FAST TRACK ROAD TO WHEELER ROAD. THAT ROAD STARTED FALLING APART.

THE COUNTY IGNORED IT. NEVER FIXED THE POTHOLES.

IT FINALLY GOT COMPLETELY DESTROYED. THEY CAME IN AND TORE THE ASPHALT OUT AND PUT IT BACK TO A GRADED DIRT ROAD.

THAT'S BACKWARDS. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT AIR PARTICULATES? COME DOWN AND SEE THOSE TRUCKS RUNNING UP AND DOWN THOSE ROADS ALL THE TIME.

JUST BURNING UP WITH THE DUST. WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING GOOD HERE.

I THINK THESE DATA CENTERS ARE GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO BRING IN INCOME TO OUR COUNTY AND HELP US.

AS I'M OVER THERE AT SALT RIVER PROJECT, I GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH LOTS OF PEOPLE DOWN IN THE STATE, AND THERE'S KIND OF A FEELING AND A CONSENSUS IN THEIR SENSES THAT PINAL COUNTY IS AGAINST GROWTH AND AGAINST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I TOOK AN OATH WHEN I WAS ELECTED, JUST LIKE YOU DID, AND WE TOOK AN OATH TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, WHICH IS THE LAW OF THIS LAND. AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT FOR LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.

SO CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? DAVE LAMOREAUX LAMOREAUX. JUST LIKE THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

GENTLEMEN. NEXT UP SIR, HAVE I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE? COME ON DOWN. NEXT WE'LL HAVE MELANIE MARTINEZ STRAHAN.

BRANOVER. JEFFREY FITZWATER. CASTLE. VANIA LARSEN.

NATALIE FIROZE, THOMAS SILVA AND THEN CHRISTIE WYMAN, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. FIRST OFF, MY NAME IS MICHAEL PACKARD, AKA RATTLESNAKE PLACE, AS YOU CALLED ME OUT.

JUST SO WE KNOW WHO WE'RE TALKING TO. SO I HAVE WORKED IN TECH FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

ADDITIONALLY, I HAD A LAPTOP IN THE EIGHTH GRADE.

I'VE HAD I'VE IN AND OUT OF TECH FOR A LONG TIME.

SO I WAS GOING THROUGH ONE OF WHAT MY TRUSTED NEWS SOURCES AND I CAME ACROSS A NEWS ARTICLE.

I'VE SENT IT ALL TO YOU. EXCEPT IT DID GET BOUNCED OFF FROM SUPERVISOR TWO AND SUPERVISOR FIVE.

SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE IT, PLEASE SHARE IT. THE HEADLINE READS, AI TECH COMPANIES HAVE A HIDDEN DEBT WORTH AROUND 1.65 TRILLION.

THAT IS WITH A T REPORT CLAIMS AMOUNT, WHICH IS 122% OF DEBT REFLECTED ON THE BALANCE SHEETS OF ALPHABET AKA THAT ONE'S GOOGLE. AMAZON, META, FACEBOOK, AMAZON OR MICROSOFT AND ORACLE.

THESE ARE THE BIG PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SELLING THE DATA CENTER TO.

AND NOW I WILL GO INTO THE ARTICLE. IT DOESN'T QUITE GO INTO IF IT'S ADDITION TO THE DEBT THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE, WHICH IS ABOUT 1.35 TRILLION, WHICH IS PUBLICLY DISCUSSED.

OR IF THIS IS IN ADDITION TO. BECAUSE THE MAIN HOOK OF THIS ARTICLE IS THEY'RE USING THE SAME FINANCIAL PRACTICES THAT ENRON USED.

I THINK WE ALL KNOW HOW ENRON WOUND UP. SECOND THING I WANT TO BRING UP IS, AS I SAID, I'VE WORKED IN TECH FOR 20 YEARS.

THE MOOD, THE ATTITUDE TOWARDS DATA CENTERS AND AI IN GENERAL IS NOT GOOD AS THIS IS BUILDING AS THE RESISTANCE IS BUILDING IN GENERAL PUBLIC.

SO IS THE RESISTANCE IN THE PEOPLE THAT I WORK WITH.

SO THE PEOPLE THAT THE ACTIVITIES I DO DAILY.

WE DON'T USE AI UNLESS WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.

USUALLY BECAUSE OUR BOSS TELLS US TO. WE'RE CONTINUING TO TRY AND DEVELOP AND BUILD INTO A PROCESS WHICH IS GOING ALONG TOO FAST. IT'S NOT SECURE. IT'S NOT GUARANTEED. AND IT'S IT'S MAKING ME REMEMBER A LOT OF BACK IN 2008, WHEN A BUNCH OF FRIENDS OF MINE BUILT A COUPLE OF WEBSITES AND BROUGHT DOWN THE ECONOMY.

WE ALL REMEMBER THE 2008 CRASH. THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A BUMP IN THE ROAD.

THIS IS GOING TO BE BAD UNLESS WE GET SOMETHING TO START SLOWING IT DOWN.

SO I'M LOOKING TO YOU GUYS TO HELP PROTECT US FROM A POTENTIAL OVERHAUL.

AND DEFINITELY WE DO NOT NEED WHAT WINDS UP TO BE PHOENIX MARK 2.0.

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NEXT ON THE LIST. OH WE GOT A LINE UP NOW. THIS IS GREAT.

OKAY. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. MY NAME IS VANIA LARSEN.

I LIVE IN COOLIDGE. I GREW UP IN FLORENCE. I WORK IN CONSULTING WITH SOME VERY HIGH LEVEL FIRMS. I PERSONALLY USE AI IN MY DAY TO DAY WORK, BUT I AM A HUGE ADVOCATE OF RESPONSIBLE AI, AND THAT TRANSLATES INTO DATA CENTERS.

I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR ALL OF THE POINTS THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE TO MAKE, BUT I OPPOSE THE DATA CENTER HERE.

I THINK THE WAY OF LIFE THAT WE HAVE IN PINAL COUNTY IS GOING TO BE MASSIVELY DISRUPTED BY DATA CENTERS.

AND THERE'S MUCH BETTER PLACES TO BUILD THEM OFFSHORE UP IN THE NORTH, ETC..

SO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP MY FULL THREE MINUTES, BUT I URGE YOU TO PLEASE OPPOSE THIS PROJECT, VOTE NO TODAY. AND ALSO, IN ADDITION, CREATE A FRAMEWORK BY WHICH GOING FORWARD, THE COUNTY CAN ADDRESS LARGE PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS.

AND YEAH, I GOT DONE BEFORE NOON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND LISTENING TO ALL OF US.

ARIZONA CURRENTLY HOLDS BETWEEN 130 AND 160 DATA CENTER FACILITIES, MAKING THE PHOENIX AREA ONE OF THE LARGEST DATA CENTER HUBS IN THE UNITED STATES.

THE SOURCES THE LOW FREQUENCY HARM OR CONTINUE ROLL RESEMBLING A JET ENGINE COME FROM LARGE COOLING TOWERS AND INDUSTRIAL HVAC UNIT RUNNING 24 OVER SEVEN TO KEEP THOUSANDS OF SERVERS FOR OVERHEATING.

LOCAL ACTION RESIDENTS AREA LIKE MESA, CHANDLER AND GOODYEAR HAVE ACTIVELY RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT THESE PROBLEMS. DON'T DO THAT, PLEASE. WE NEED A BETTER STAFF.

WE DON'T NEED THESE THINGS VERY SOON. OKAY, THE WATER IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD AND PROBABLY WE'RE GOING TO END IT DRINKING THE TOILET WATER.

I DON'T WANT THAT. OKAY. SO I DO APPRECIATE WHEN YOU GO HOME, THINK ABOUT IT.

THE FUTURE OF YOUR KIDS AND YOUR GRANDKIDS. IT IS ON YOUR HANDS.

PLEASE, NO ONE DATA CENTERS NO MORE. WE HAVE ALREADY 160.

WHAT WE NEED MORE. THANK YOU. AND COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? MY NAME IS CUPID CEBALLOS. THANK YOU. NEXT.

MY NAME IS BRIAN COX. I LIVE IN A COMMUNITY CALLED SAN MANUEL IN PINAL COUNTY.

THEY KINDLY ESCORTED ME HERE. WHEN I HEARD MY NAME CALLED, I.

THERE HAS BEEN MANY HIGHLY EDUCATED PEOPLE THAT HAVE TALKED ABOUT RISKS, VERY REAL RISKS.

I AM TRYING TO STATE SOMETHING POSITIVE IN THE FAVOR OF HEALTH AND WELFARE OF PEOPLE.

SO I WILL GIVE YOU THE AREA THAT I WORKED IN.

I WORKED FOR A POWER UTILITY COMPANY, AND I KNOW WHAT IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THAT MACHINERY.

A CRITICAL ALIGNMENTS BETWEEN TURBINE ENGINES AND GENERATORS CRITICAL.

THIS AREA IS UNSETTLING. GROUND. NOT A GOOD MIX.

DOESN'T WORK. THERE IS AVAILABILITY OF GETTING GENERATORS.

GAS TURBINE. GENERATORS. IN IN TRAILERS THAT CAN BE SHIPPED.

OKAY. THAT'S FINE. THIS COMPANY THIS MORNING SAID THEY CANNOT REALLY ANSWER HALF OF THEIR ENERGY USE. THEY CAN'T REALLY ANSWER A LOT OF HOLES IN THEIR THEORY DOESN'T HOLD WATER.

THAT ONLY PUTS THE RESPONSIBILITY ON SOME OTHER UTILITY COMPANY THAT DOES NOT HAVE WATER RESTRICTIONS.

NOW, I WILL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HAZARDS.

IF THEY USE THESE PORTABLE MOVABLE GENERATORS, GAS TURBINES, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF GAS PIPING.

AND THAT IS ALSO ON SETTLING GROUND. M SHORE, WHICH I WAS TRAINED IN, WAS PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE OF PUBLIC

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FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS WHAT NATURAL GAS IS.

IF YOU HAVE A MASSIVE LEAK, A LOT OF PIPES, A LOT OF SETTLING GROUND.

MSHA WAS PUT IN PLACE TO STOP DEATHS. IT BLEW THINGS OUT OF UNDERGROUND COAL MINES LIKE CANNONS. PIECES WERE FOUND MILES FROM THE MINE.

I AM TELLING YOU, THIS IS A PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD.

THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THE PRESENTATION THIS MORNING SAID, OH, WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE GOING TO USE A CLOSED COOLING SYSTEM. CLOSED LOOP COOLING SYSTEM.

I KNOW WHAT THAT IS. THEY HAVE CONVENIENTLY TOLD US THEY'RE GOING TO USE THAT.

BUT THERE'S ANOTHER HALF. HE DOESN'T MAGICALLY GO AWAY.

THERE'S ANOTHER HALF. THEY LEFT IT ALL. THANK YOU, MR. COX. NEXT. TWO MINUTES LEFT. I CAN SAY GOOD MORNING STILL.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS NATALIE FIERROS.

I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND CO-FOUNDER OF A GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION BASED IN COOLIDGE CALLED RAISE RURAL ARIZONA ENGAGEMENT.

AND I AM ALSO A RESIDENT OF SAN TAN VALLEY. THE PHILOSOPHER PAUL VIRILIO ONCE SAID, TO INVENT THE SHIP IS TO INVENT THE SHIPWRECK. TO INVENT THE PLANE IS TO INVENT THE PLANE CRASH.

TO INVENT THE CAR IS TO INVENT THE CAR PILE UP.

EVERY TECHNOLOGY CARRIES ITS OWN NEGATIVITY, WHICH IS INVENTED AT THE SAME TIME AS TECHNOLOGICAL PROGRESS.

WHEN IT COMES TO SHIPS, PLANES AND CARS, THE BENEFITS TO SOCIETY ARE UNDENIABLE.

HOWEVER, WE KNOW THERE ARE DRAWBACKS TO EACH OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES, AND WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THE CHALLENGES AND THE DANGERS THEY POSE TO SOCIETY AND SHRUG OUR SHOULDERS. NO, WE STRAPPED ON OUR BOOTS AND WE FOUND A BETTER WAY.

WE BUILT LIGHTHOUSES AND CURTAILED SHIPWRECKS.

WE INTEGRATED RADAR INTO AVIATION AND REDUCED PLANE CRASHES.

WE REQUIRED ALL VEHICLES TO HAVE SEAT BELTS AND SAVED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF LIVES.

WHEN IT COMES TO ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND DATA CENTERS, SAFEGUARDS ARE NOT A NICE THING TO HAVE.

THEY ARE ESSENTIAL TO PROTECT HEALTH, WELL-BEING AND THE LIVELIHOODS OF THE PUBLIC.

THE ENERGY SECTOR HAS SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS AND TO BE HONEST, THE APPLICATION IS SO SLOPPY THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO MAKE SENSE OF IT. EVEN THOUGH THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT IS SAID TO BE REDUCED FROM 3GW TO 1GW, THE AMOUNT OF POTABLE WATER REQUIRED TO GENERATE THIS ELECTRICITY IS STILL THE SAME.

IT'S 600 ACRE FEET. THIS WAS INCLUDED AS A STIPULATION, BUT THAT STIPULATION IS SPECIFIC TO POTABLE WATER FOR ENERGY GENERATION, AND IT MAKES NO MENTION OF THE WATER REQUIRED FOR COOLING.

THE DEVELOPERS CLAIMED AGAIN THIS MORNING THAT THE PROJECT WILL USE NEAR ZERO WATER, BECAUSE LAOS IS GOING TO HAVE A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM.

HOWEVER, DATA CENTERS ARE NOT ABLE TO RUN AT FULL CAPACITY 365 DAYS A YEAR.

THEY HAVE TO RELY ON SECONDARY ALTERNATIVE METHODS OF COOLING WHEN IT'S HOT OUTSIDE.

IT'S HOT IN ARIZONA MOST OF THE YEAR. IN FACT, TODAY THE TEMPERATURE AGAIN WILL BE OVER 110 DEGREES.

JUST LAST FRIDAY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED FUTURE COLORADO RIVER CUTS TO THE CENTRAL ARIZONA PROJECT.

AND THESE NEW RULES ARE GOING TO FORCE COMMUNITIES TO BE MORE DEPENDENT ON GROUNDWATER.

WE NEED TO PROTECT THE WATER SUPPLIES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

AND SO I URGE YOU TO PUT A HALT ON THIS DATA CENTER TO TAKE THE TIME NECESSARY TO BUILD THE NEW LAWS GOVERNING DATA CENTERS IN THE FUTURE, AND TO TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS TO INCLUDE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, PLEASE. LET ME CALL IT BEFORE YOU START, LET ME JUST MAKE SURE.

JEFFREY. FITZWATER. CASTLE. MALAVIYA. MARTINEZ.

STRAHAN. BROWN. THOMAS. SILVA. CHRISTINE. WYMAN.

BILL. RUIZ. RUIZ. JOE. ABBOTT. DESIREE. MCCOLLUM.

THAT OUGHT TO GET US A NEW LINE. OKAY. GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

TO EVERYONE PRESENT TODAY. MY NAME IS MALLORY MARTINEZ.

I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER FOR RURAL ARIZONA ENGAGEMENT AND AS A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF PINAL COUNTY.

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THESE OUTAGES WERE PREDICTABLE. IF THERE WAS A SMALL DUST STORM OR A MONSOON IN THE DISTANCE, WE KNEW AN OUTAGE WAS LIKELY. WHEN WE SAW THE LIGHTS AND APPLIANCES FLICKER, WE COULD BE SURE THE POWER WOULD GO OUT SOON.

DURING THESE OUTAGES, MY MOM AND NANA WOULD WET A BED SHEET AND DRAPE IT OVER THE SCREEN, DOOR AND WINDOWS TO CREATE A COOL DRAFT.

IF THE OUTAGE LASTED ALL NIGHT, MY MOM WOULD LAY A WET TOWEL ON THE FLOOR OR THE BED FOR US TO SLEEP ON, HELPING US STAY COOL AS WELL. AS A SINGLE PARENT ON A FIXED INCOME MY MOM RELIED ON VARIOUS FORMS OF ASSISTANCE, WHICH MADE POWER OUTAGES EVEN MORE STRESSFUL.

THERE ARE ALWAYS RISKS. THERE ARE RISKS OF OUR GROCERIES GOING BAD, AND SHE OFTEN DID NOT HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO REPLACE PERISHABLE ITEMS. OFTEN, POWER OUTAGES WOULD DRAW FAMILIES OUT OF THEIR HOMES TO CHECK ON ONE ANOTHER, INCLUDING MY GRANDMOTHER, WHO ALSO LIVED DOWN THE STREET. IN THIS CHALLENGING ECONOMY WHERE FAMILIES CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE, CAN YOU ENSURE THEIR NEEDS ARE PROTECTED DURING VULNERABLE SITUATIONS? HOW WOULD YOU PREPARE TO ASSIST THOSE WHO RELY ON THIRD PARTY ELECTRIC COMPANIES IN THE EVENT OF AN OUTAGE, LIKE THE ONES THAT MY FAMILY AND I HAVE EXPERIENCED IN OUR COMMUNITY? MY CHILDHOOD REFLECTS THE STRUGGLES MANY FAMILIES IN PINAL COUNTY FACE, ILLUSTRATING WHAT THE FUTURE MAY HOLD FOR MANY MORE.

THE DATA CENTER IS PROJECTED TO CONSUME ONE GIGAWATT OF ENERGY.

ENERGY TO POWER UP TO 1 MILLION HOMES. WHEN PINAL COUNTY IS AT PEAK ENERGY USE, WHO WILL TAKE PRIORITY WHEN THE POWER OUTAGES ARE IMMINENT? WILL IT BE THE GRANDMOTHER WHO NEEDS AN OXYGEN TANK? THE PERSON WHOSE MEDICATION REQUIRES REFRIGERATION, SUCH AS INSULIN.

THE SINGLE MOTHER CONCERNED ABOUT FOOD SECURITY.

OR WILL IT BE THE DATA CENTER OWNED BY TECH BILLIONAIRES? THE FUTURE OF OUR COMPANY, OF OUR COMMUNITIES DEPEND ON YOU LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS AND PREVENTING DATA CENTERS FROM PUTTING A SIGNIFICANT STRAIN ON OUR POWER GRIDS AND MANY OTHERS CONCERNS SPOKEN HERE TODAY. THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE DOESN'T EVEN INCORPORATE THE ONE GIGABYTE LIMIT.

SO EVEN THOUGH THAT IS A GARGANTUAN AMOUNT OF ENERGY, THE TRUE ENERGY DEMANDS COULD BE FAR GREATER.

WE NEED MORE THAN A PINKY PROMISE. YOU HAVE HAD AMPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO RECOGNIZE AND ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS.

I HOPE THAT YOU WILL TAKE THESE ISSUES SERIOUSLY AND MAKE DECISIONS THAT REFLECT A COMMITMENT TO THE INTEGRITY AND FUTURE OF OUR RURAL AREAS.

I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE NO FOR OUR PRIORITIZE OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS AND NOT THESE BILLIONAIRES.

GREED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION ON THIS MATTER.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. HELLO, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO US. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE WYMAN AND I'M A RESIDENT OF RED ROCK, ARIZONA.

MY COMMUNITY LIES WITHIN FIVE MILES OF OF THE OF THE SITE.

GREMLIN DIDN'T LIST THIS AS A NEIGHBOR, BUT WE VERY MUCH ARE.

ALMOST 4000 PEOPLE THAT THEY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE.

THEY DIDN'T EVEN INFORM OUR HOA, WHICH BY THE WAY, IS PART OF THE REQUIREMENT OF ZONING.

IN ADDITION, LA OSSA AND TWO OTHER GAS FIRED POWER PLANTS ON TOP OF LA OSSA ARE BEING PROPOSED IN OUR AREA.

FOR REFERENCE, THE ENTIRE CITY OF LA HAS FOUR GAS FIRED POWER PLANTS, A CITY OF 3.8 MILLION.

AND WE WILL HAVE ALMOST. AND WE WILL HAVE ALMOST AS MUCH POLLUTION AS A CITY OF 3.8 MILLION.

I RAN THE NUMBERS. ALSO WILL HAVE A 1000 MEGAWATT MEGAWATTS OF POWER FROM THEIR POWER PLANT.

SUNRIDGE WILL HAVE 1360MW, AND THE SAGUARO EXPANSION WILL HAVE 730MW.

TOGETHER, THAT'S NEARLY AS MUCH POWER AS THE SECOND LARGEST CITY IN THE US.

ALSO, DATA CENTERS CAUSE CONTINUOUS NOISE THAT RESIDENTS HAVE TO DEAL WITH 24 OVER SEVEN.

THEY'RE ALSO KNOWN TO DRIVE AWAY LIVE WILDLIFE.

WE LIVE IN A DESERT WITH LIMITED WATER, AND OUR SHARE OF THE COLORADO RIVER WAS JUST CUT.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAN FOR US. WE'RE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT LONG TERM.

THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS COME AND THEY GO. THEY HAVE A SHORT TERM JOB.

AND DON'T GET ME WRONG, I WANT THEM TO BE EMPLOYED, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE.

YOU KNOW, 40 YEARS LATER IN MY RETIREMENT, DEALING WITH THE POLLUTION OF A MEGA DATA CENTER.

THAT SAID, I IMPLORE YOU, PLEASE CONSIDER OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR ENVIRONMENT AND VOTE NOW.

THANK YOU. AND BEFORE YOU COME, SIR, WHICH WHO ARE YOU, JOE? JOE ABBOTT. COME ON DOWN. JEFFREY FITZWATER. CASTLE.

STRAHAN. BROWN. RIVER. JOE. NEVER MIND. YOU'RE.

THAT YOU? DESIREE MCCOLLUM. BILL. RUIZ. THOMAS.

SILVA. RICK. SHORROCK. JOSHUA. DE SPAIN. BRIAN.

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MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS JOE ABBOT OF CASA GRANDE, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS, LOCAL NUMBER 12. I'M HERE TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.

BEFORE OUR DATA CENTER CAN OPERATE, THE SITE MUST BE PREPARED AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT.

THAT WORK REQUIRES OPERATING ENGINEERS AND OTHER SKILLED PROFESSIONALS FOR GRADING, EXCAVATION, EARTH MOVING UTILITIES, ROADS, SITE DEVELOPMENT AND HEAVY CONSTRUCTION ALSO CAN PUT PINAL COUNTY BASED OPERATING ENGINEERS AND APPRENTICES TO WORK, WHILE PROVIDING THE HANDS ON TRAINING NEEDED TO BUILD THE NEXT GENERATION OF SKILLED CONSTRUCTION WORKERS.

THE INVESTMENT ALSO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CREATE A RIPPLE EFFECT THROUGHOUT PINAL COUNTY.

LOCAL CONSTRUCTION EMPLOYMENT SUPPORTS FAMILIES AND LOCAL BUSINESSES WHILE SPENDING ON EQUIPMENT, MATERIALS, SERVICES AND CONTRACTORS CAN KEEP ECONOMIC ACTIVITY WITHIN THE REGION.

OVER TIME, ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT CAN HELP STRENGTHEN FUNDING FOR LOCAL SCHOOLS, ROADS AND STREETS AND OTHER CRITICAL PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

LOCAL 12 BELIEVES PINAL COUNTY CAN WELCOME RESPONSIBLE INVESTMENT WHILE ENSURING LOCAL WORKERS SHARE IN ITS BENEFITS.

WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO SUPPORT LHASA AND WORK TOWARD APPROVAL WITH APPROPRIATE COUNTY CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, SIR, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU'RE FROM WHEN YOU START SPEAKING.

GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

MY NAME IS BILL RUIZ. I'M REPRESENTING THE WESTERN STATES REGIONAL COUNCIL OF CARPENTERS LOCAL 1912 HERE IN ARIZONA.

WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMENTS THAT EVERYBODY'S MADE TODAY, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GO OFF THE, THE SCRIPT EVERYBODY'S HEARD EVERYTHING THAT WE STAND FOR, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHT WHY IT IS THAT SKILLED UNION LABOR SUPPORTS PROJECTS LIKE THIS.

WE'RE ABOUT BEING SELF-SUFFICIENT. WE, WE GET UP, WE WORK EVERY DAY.

WE FIGHT FOR EVERY JOB THAT WE HAVE. NOTHING IS GIVEN TO US.

AND THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. WE'RE NOT ABOUT ENTITLEMENTS.

WE NEGOTIATE. WE WORK WITH OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS THAT BRING PROJECTS LIKE IN HERE.

AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT OUR MEMBERSHIPS SO THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES, PROVIDE HEALTH CARE AND GOOD PAY, GOOD WAGES, AND MAYBE EVEN THEY CAN TAKE A VACATION FROM TIME TO TIME BECAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD IT.

WE WANT TO RETAIN OUR SKILLED WORKFORCE HERE IN ARIZONA, AND WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT OUR MEMBERS OR ANYBODY HERE IN ARIZONA THAT WANTS TO WORK AND LIVE HERE SHOULD HAVE TO TRAVEL TO ANOTHER STATE TO WORK BECAUSE OF WAGES, OR TO HAVE TO DRIVE HALFWAY ACROSS THE THE CITY BECAUSE THERE'S NO LOCAL WORK HERE. THIS JOB RIGHT HERE WILL PROVIDE PLENTY OF WORK LOCALLY.

AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REPRESENTATION THAT WORKS AND LIVES HERE.

ONE OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES HERE TODAY IS FROM ELOY.

AND SO OUR, OUR UNIONS POLITICALLY YOU KNOW, WE HEAR ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND THINGS.

WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE POLITICALLY RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICS.

SO WE BELIEVE IT'S NOT A BLUE BLUE HAT OR A RED HAT THAT YOU WEAR.

IT'S THE HARD HATS THAT'S GOING TO PAY THE BILLS HERE.

SO I'D ASK YOU TO RESPECT HOW WE LOOK AT THE TECHNOLOGY.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE REALIZE THAT IT'S GOING TO HELP IN, IN LEARNING CHILDREN THAT HAVE LEARNING DISABILITIES.

WE NEED THAT TECHNOLOGY, OUR MEDICINE, OUR DOCTORS, OUR HOSPITALS, THEY NEED THAT TECHNOLOGY.

AND IT'S OUR WAY OF BUILDING THE CAPACITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO SHORE UP OUR, OUR MILITARY.

HOW MANY PEOPLE REALIZE TODAY THAT DATA CENTERS ARE KEY IN, IN HELPING OUR DEPLOYED FORCES, OUR TWO OF OUR NAVY SHIPS? I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

THE USS MERCY, THE USS COMFORT RELY ON DATA CENTERS TO HELP THEM WITH SURGERIES, WITH PHARMACIES, WITH X-RAYS, WITH RECORD KEEPING THAT SUPPORT OUR TROOPS THAT ARE DEPLOYED.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF VETERANS HERE TODAY AND WITH RESPECT TO THEIR SERVICE.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR GENERATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON.

WE CAN SUPPORT OUR OUR SOLDIERS TODAY. THANK YOU, MR. RUIZ. OKAY. I'M JUST BEFORE YOU START, I'M JUST GOING TO CALL A FEW NAMES SO I CAN MAYBE BUILD A NEW LINE.

SO AGAIN, JEFFREY FITZWATER. CASTLE STRAHAN. BRANOVER.

DESIREE MCCOLLUM, THOMAS SILVA RICK SHORROCK, BRIAN DELFS, JOSHUA DESPAIN,

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HOPEFULLY THAT YOU COULD HAVE LOOKED THROUGH THEM, BECAUSE I'M JUST GOING TO TOUCH ON THE TOPICS OF THESE PARTICULAR SHEETS.

AGAIN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS RICK SHORROCK.

I'M FROM TUCSON, ARIZONA. WELL, YES. I'M A NATIVE ARIZONAN, A U OF A GRADUATE WITH A MASTER'S.

A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER FOR 30 YEARS. PAST BOARD MEMBER OF THE ARIZONA ARCHEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, AN ARIZONA SITE STEWARD FOR 26 YEARS MONITORING SITES IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

CAN YOU SLIDE OVER TOWARD THE MICROPHONE? THANK YOU.

SURE. I'M HERE AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN, AN ACTIVE SITE STEWARD, TO TALK ABOUT THE DANGERS AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER THAT WOULD BE CREATED BY THE PROPOSED DATA CENTER.

SASCO ROAD BORDERS TWO PIECES OF LAND, ALL OF THE AREA.

OFFICE ROAD IS HOME TO MULTIPLE ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES THAT ARE MONITORED.

HEAVY RECREATIONAL USE, SUCH AS HUNTING, HIKING, BIKE RIDING, CAMPING.

DARK SKIES FOR AMATEUR ASTRONOMERS, AND FOUR WHEELING SASCO ROAD HAS ALSO BEEN DESIGNATED AS A SCENIC DRIVE ROUTE THAT WINDS AROUND THE SAMANIEGO SAMANIEGO MOUNTAINS, PASSING BY SASCO RUINS. WATER.

WE WERE EXPERIENCING AN OVERWHELMING DROUGHT.

OUR WATER IS A LIFE GIVING RESOURCE FOR ALL ARIZONANS.

CENTERS COULD HAVE A USAGE OF WATER UP TO 50 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE PLANT.

ACTIVE COMMUNITIES SUCH AS RED ROCK, THE RED ROCK CATTLE COMPANY, AND THE AREAS OF AGRICULTURE COULD CREATE A WATER PROBLEM FOR ALL OF THEM.

INFRASOUND CONSTANT HUMMING NOISE 24 OVER SEVEN FROM POWER GENERATORS AND GAS TURBINES.

INTERNAL NOISE CAN REACH VERY HIGH DECIBELS. HUMANS BEGIN TO LOSE HAVE HEARING PROBLEMS AT 85DB.

THE SOUND LEVEL CAN REACH OUT OVER A MILE AND EVEN FARTHER UNDER THE RIGHT ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS.

AIR POLLUTION GAS TURBINES TO POWER GENERATORS CAN EMIT MORE POLLUTANTS THAN THE EPA ALLOWS, CAN PRODUCE TONS OF CO2 YEARLY, AND THIS TRANSLATES INTO BILLIONS OF POUNDS OF AIR POLLUTION, DEGRADES OUR LOCAL AIR QUALITY AND CLIMATE CHANGE INFRASTRUCTURE, DESTRUCTION OF LAND AND ALTERING WATERWAYS, CARVING OUT ROADS FOR HEAVY MACHINERY FOR THE BUILDING OF THIS PLANT.

WILDLIFE HABITAT LOSS OVER 3000 ACRES WOULD BE DESTROYED, CREATING A WILDLIFE DEAD ZONE, EFFECTS OF BIRDS AND ANIMAL MIGRATION, ENCROACHMENT OF ENDANGERED SPECIES OR SONORAN PRONGHORN SHEEP, DESERT TORTOISE, PYGMY OWL, NOISE POLLUTION AFFECTING BEHAVIOR OF COMMUNICATIONS AND MATING PATTERNS, CREATING STRESS AMONG WILDLIFE.

DISRUPTION OF MIGRATING PATTERNS, LIGHT POLLUTION HIGH POWERED LIGHTS DISRUPT THE NOCTURNAL AND MIGRATION PATTERNS.

PATTERNS OF WILDLIFE CREATES DISASTROUS EFFECTS FOR THE WHOLE AREA'S ECOSYSTEM.

I'M JUST ONE VOICE IN THE WIND, BUT WITH MANY VOICES AND THE MULTITUDE OF OTHER VOICES, I AM HOPES THAT THE PEOPLE CAN TRULY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

THANK YOU SIR. I JUST ONE THING I EXTEND. I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT AT THREE MINUTES BECAUSE WE'VE GOT.

I'VE STILL GOT 30 CARDS PLUS THE ONES I'VE CALLED.

I JUST WANT TO EXTEND AN INVITATION FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO HAVE A SIGHT SIGHT TOUR OUT THERE.

I'D BE WILLING TO. IF YOU HAVE A CARD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. PACKAGE THAT I HAVE. THANK YOU. NEXT UP PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M JOSH DESPAIN. GOOD. GOOD TO SEE THE SUPERVISORS AND CHAIRMAN.

SO I REPRESENT THE ELECTRICAL WORKERS IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.

IBEW LOCAL 570. JUST UNDER A THOUSAND WORKERS, ELECTRICAL WORKERS.

WE ALSO REPRESENT SAN CARLOS IRRIGATION PROJECT AND.

AND THE UTILITY WORKERS AT ARIZONA ELECTRIC POWER.

EXECUTIVE BOARD ON THE BUILDING TRADES 3030 K PLUS BUILDING TRADES.

MEMBERS WORKING FOR ARIZONA. THIS JOB A 13000 JOBS OVER A DECADE OF WORK.

I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT WITH APPRENTICESHIPS.

YOU KNOW THE DOL HAS A 1 TO 1 RATIO. USUALLY WITH A JOURNEY WORKER TO AN APPRENTICE.

AND YOU'RE TALKING CAREERS THESE APPRENTICES FOR.

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NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WITH ATTRITION TO RETIRING ON THE JOB.

TEN YEARS OF WORK IS A. LOT OF WORK AND IT'S A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE ECONOMY.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND FOR PINAL COUNTY TO APPROVE THIS VOTE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. JUST SO EVERYBODY IS AWARE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AT 1230 FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES.

SO. OKAY. NEXT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND SUPERVISORS.

I'M BRIAN DELFS, THE FIRE CHIEF OF THE VALLEY FIRE DISTRICT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR UNENVIABLE POSITION AND THE HARD, DIFFICULT DECISION YOU HAVE TO MAKE.

I'VE ALSO SERVED ON STATE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND I KNOW THIS CAN BE VERY TOUGH FOR YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM 100 PEOPLE HERE TODAY. BUT I'M COMPELLED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF 12,000 MEMBERS OF THE VALLEY FIRE DISTRICT, A DISTRICT THAT STRUGGLES FINANCIALLY YEAR AFTER YEAR IS EXACTLY THE ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE FIRE DISTRICT.

IT'S A HIGHLY SECURE, LOW HAZARD DEVELOPMENT THAT WON'T STRETCH OUR RESOURCES.

WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE OWNERS OF LOZA THAT WILL PROVIDE PROPERTY FOR A STATION AND IMPACT FEES, IN ADDITION TO SUBSTANTIAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUES YEAR OVER YEAR.

THE INCREASED NET PROPERTY VALUE FROM LOZA WILL RESULT IN $500 PER YEAR IN SAVINGS OF SECONDARY PROPERTY TAXES FOR 12,000 MEMBERS OF THE FIRE DISTRICT.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PURCHASE BADLY NEEDED NEW FIRE TRUCKS AND AMBULANCES.

WE'LL PROVIDE JOBS FOR 30 NEW FIREFIGHTERS. WE'LL HAVE FASTER RESPONSE TIMES.

NEW STATION FACILITIES, UPDATED CARDIAC MONITOR DEFIBRILLATORS, AIR PACKS AND FIREFIGHTING PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT.

THIS WILL RESULT IN SAFER CITIZENS, SAFER FIRST RESPONDERS, AND DECREASED SECONDARY PROPERTY TAXES FOR STRUGGLING FAMILIES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS THOMAS MELTON.

I'VE WORKED ON SOME OF THE LARGEST DATA CENTER PROJECTS IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE, AND I WANT TO SHARE THAT. I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE POSITIVE IMPACTS THAT PROJECTS LIKE THIS BRING TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

SKILLED LONG TERM CONSTRUCTION JOBS OFFER OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOR PINAL COUNTY RESIDENTS TO WORK IN PINAL COUNTY.

AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT.

MR.. EARLY IN THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION EARLIER SHOWED A SHOWED THAT GRAPHIC WITH THE THE JOB SITE AND ITS DISTANCE TO PINAL COUNTY TOWNS AND CITIES. AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, A, A DECENT COMMUTE FOR A FOR A TRADESPERSON OR A OR AN EMPLOYEE OF THIS FACILITY IS THAT'S THAT'S GOOD.

YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS LOVE WHEN MY COMMUTE IS IS SHORT, BUT IN CONSTRUCTION, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT KIND OF COMMUTE YOU'LL HAVE.

SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY GOOD THAT THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PINAL COUNTY RESIDENTS.

ONE OF MY FAVORITE PROJECTS THAT I EVER WORKED ON WAS A LARGE PROJECT IN ELOY.

AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY WE WERE EATING LUNCH IN ELOY.

WE WERE USING ELOY HOTEL ROOMS. WE WERE SHOPPING IN ELOY, AND I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, ALONG WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE HIRED AND OUR TRADE PARTNERS HIRED TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT, SOME WHO BECAME LONG TIME EMPLOYEES OF OUR COMPANY IN FOREIGN MINERALS SUPERVISORY ROLES, AND THEY WORKED THEIR WAY UP THROUGH THE COMPANY, STARTING ON THAT PROJECT IN ELOY, AN 11 BUILDING CAMPUS WITH A POWER GENERATION FACILITY WILL REQUIRE A LARGE OPERATIONAL STAFF.

THERE'S GOING TO BE DATA CENTER, OPERATIONAL PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE, PEOPLE, TECHNICAL PEOPLE THAT ARE REQUIRED TO RUN THE POWER GENERATION FACILITY. THERE'LL BE VENDORS, THERE'LL BE CAMPUS OPERATIONS, THERE'LL BE ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES THAT ARE REQUIRED AT THIS FACILITY.

AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. THOSE ARE LONG TERM JOBS.

I'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND AT THESE FACILITIES. I'VE BUILT THE JOBS THAT OCCUR AFTER THE FACILITY IS BUILT, AND THEY DON'T JUST START AFTER THE FACILITY.

THESE PEOPLE COME ON SITE AS THE FACILITY IS BEING BUILT, AND I WORKED ALONGSIDE THEM SHOULDER TO SHOULDER PLANNING, THE CONSTRUCTION, PLANNING, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE IN AND OPERATE THE FACILITY, AND THEN WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FACILITY IS OPERATING TO THE STANDARDS THAT THEY REQUIRE. SO I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, AND I RESPECTFULLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT AND HELP ENSURE THAT THE JOBS,

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SIR. MY NAME IS STEPHEN FRANKLIN AND I LIVE IN FLORENCE, ARIZONA.

I WOULD LIKE TO OPPOSE THIS PROPOSITION. AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE IF YOUR GOALS ARE NOBLE, YOU LEAD THOSE GOALS. I SEE A DATA CENTER THAT MAY OR MAY NOT IMPROVE THE AREA OF ELOY, ARIZONA, BUT WHAT IT WILL DO IS IT WILL TAKE SOME OF OUR WATER AWAY, WHICH WE COULD OTHERWISE USE FOR AGRICULTURE IN A TIME WHEN GROCERIES ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY DAY. SO WITH THESE SORTS OF THINGS TO THINK ABOUT, WHAT IS THIS DATA CENTER GOING TO GIVE US FOR OUR TAXES? YOU SAY IT WILL GO TO SCHOOLS. WELL, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE KIDS? IF EVERYBODY HAS AN AI GIRLFRIEND AND A BOYFRIEND, THESE THINGS ARE NOT GOOD FOR OUR SOCIETY.

THESE THINGS SUPPORT THINGS LIKE MASS SURVEILLANCE.

AND THEY DO THINGS THAT, YES, MAYBE HELP OUR MILITARY.

BUT AGAIN, IF THIS DATA CENTER WAS NOBLE, THEY WOULD LEAD WITH THAT NOBLE CAUSE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO HERE IS GOING TO BENEFIT DIRECTLY FROM WHAT THIS DATA CENTER DOES, NOT WHAT IT IS. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM, MOST LIKELY.

AND IF THEY ARE, THEN THEY'RE NOT VERY USEFUL TO SOCIETY.

SO I WOULD SAY OPPOSE THIS MEASURE. MAYBE COME BACK WITH A BETTER ONE.

IF THEY SAY THIS DATA CENTER IS FOR SURGERIES, IF THEY SAY THIS DATA CENTER IS FOR HELPING OUR MILITARY.

SURE. BUT I'M SURE IT'S PROBABLY JUST GOING TO BE GENERATING VIDEOS OF A YOUNG GIRL SITTING IN FRONT OF A TIGER THAT COMES AND LAYS ITS HEAD IN ITS LAP, WHICH IS GOING TO TEACH A VERY VALUABLE LESSON TO SOMEBODY SOMEDAY, WHEN THEY SIT IN A ROAD AND THE TIGER DECIDES TO EAT THEM.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD ASK YOU TO OPPOSE THIS AND YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY.

THANK YOU. THERE'S NOBODY ELSE. I'M GOING TO CALL THESE NAMES IF YOU DON'T SHOW UP.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK QUICKER THAN THE 1230 FOR 15 MINUTES.

SO. DESIREE MCCALLUM ROBERT DE LA CRUZ. THOMAS SILVA.

GOING ONCE, TWICE. THEY HAVEN'T SHOWED UP. OKAY, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO RESET.

WE'LL DO WHAT IS IT, 1220. WE'LL RECESS FOR 15 MINUTES AND WE'LL BE BACK.

THANK YOU. THE CUCKOO'S NEST. WE ARE BACK, RIGHT? HEY, JUST SAY IT, YOU KNOW. IS SUPERVISOR MILLER BACK ON THE PHONE? YES, I AM. YES YOU ARE. OKAY, TERRIFIC. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL CALL A FEW MORE NAMES AND GET EVERYBODY ROLLING HERE. HOW ABOUT. I'VE CALLED DESIREE MCCOLLUM ROBERT DE LA CRUZ.

THOMAS SILVER, AND A WHOLE NOTHER PILE. NICK.

MAYA. OH, GOOD. OKAY. YUP. COOL. OKAY. LET ME CALL A FEW MORE.

YEAH. YOU COME. COME ON UP. BUT JUST JUST CHILL FOR A SECOND, OKAY? AND THEN JUDITH. OH, TARA. TARA. I'M NOT SURE, BUT.

JUDITH. TATA. DEAN. KELLY. KAREN. WALKER, SANDRA HORN.

BRUNDAGE. CINDY OWENS, LINDA ABERCROMBIE. WE'LL GO THAT FAR AND SEE HOW WE GO.

MR. MEYER. YES. NICK. MAYA. UNINCORPORATED PIMA COUNTY, I SHOULD SAY.

GOOD. GOOD MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN MCCLURE.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD VICE CHAIR SURTEES DOG, WHO I BELIEVE IS SITTING RIGHT THERE SOMEWHERE.

I'M PROGRAM MANAGER WITH THE COALITION FOR SONORAN DESERT PROTECTION, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE ECHO MANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US TODAY.

I HOPE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE LETTER WE SUBMITTED AHEAD OF TODAY'S MEETING, SIGNED BY NINE CONSERVATION ORGANIZATIONS, ALL ASKING YOU TO DENY THIS PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TODAY.

OUR CONCERNS BEGIN WITH THE PROJECT'S LOCATION AND SCALE.

LA OSSA WOULD PLACE A MAJOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY ALONG THE BOUNDARY OF IRONWOOD FOREST NATIONAL MONUMENT, OVERLAP WITH THE IRONWOOD PICACHO WILDLIFE LINKAGE AND NEAR, EXCUSE ME, SIT NEAR SIGNIFICANT INDIGENOUS CULTURAL AND ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES LIKE THE LOS ROBLES ARCHEOLOGICAL DISTRICT, WHICH INCLUDES CERRO PIEDRA.

THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE ASKED FOR BETTER SEPARATION BETWEEN THE INDUSTRIAL USES AND THE WILDLIFE LINKAGE,

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THESE CONCERNS HAVE NOT BEEN ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED.

WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED THAT THE REVISED APPLICATION PRESENTS MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS WITHOUT SUFFICIENT CLARITY ABOUT WHAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE BUILT AND WHERE.

THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW WHICH PROJECT IS BEING APPROVED AND HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO FULLY UNDERSTAND ITS IMPACTS.

BECAUSE THESE CONCERNS REMAIN UNRESOLVED AND THE COUNTY IS ACTIVELY DEVELOPING A DATA CENTER, ORDINANCE APPROVING NOW WOULD ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD BEFORE THE COUNTY HAS DETERMINED WHAT STANDARD SUCH DEVELOPMENT SHOULD MEET.

WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO VOTE NO TODAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. NEXT, SIR, PLEASE COME ON UP. I DON'T THINK MR. WOULD APPRECIATE THAT SHIRT, DO YOU? GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. MY NAME IS DEANE KELLER.

I HAVE TWO THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO IMPRESS WITH THE BOARD.

NUMBER ONE, I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THE DATA CENTER.

THE MAIN REASON FOR THAT IS PINAL COUNTY HAS FAILED TO RESPOND IN A TIMELY AND COMPLETE FASHION TO TWO DIFFERENT DATA REQUESTS THAT I HAVE MADE. ONE WAS SUBMITTED JUNE 3RD.

IT WAS CLOSED ON JULY 10TH, INCOMPLETELY. THE SECOND WAS SUBMITTED AUGUST 11TH AND I HAVE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES TO THAT YET.

THIS. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THAT. THIS IS ABOUT DATA CENTERS.

THIS IS ABOUT THE DATA CENTER. OKAY. ABOUT THE DATA CENTER.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE ON JUNE 9TH AT 4:41 P.M., AN EMAIL EXCHANGE OCCURRED BETWEEN FRANK CASSIDY AND, I BELIEVE, DARREN CAREY FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND IT WAS TITLED REFERENCE. WE'RE OFF TRACK AGAIN, SIR.

THIS IS ABOUT DATA CENTER. DO YOU OPPOSE OR AGREE WITH IT? I OPPOSE ABOUT WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING, AND THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SUBJECT.

WELL, I THE REASON I'M ASKING OR POINTING IT OUT IS THE EMAIL WAS QUESTIONED REGARDING COUNTY ZONING AND PROPOSED DATA CENTER.

OKAY. I RECEIVED THAT EMAIL. I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY CONVERSATIONS OR COMMUNICATIONS THAT WERE SENT PRIOR TO THAT EMAIL OR AFTER THAT EMAIL. SO I DON'T KNOW THE RESPONSE TO THAT EMAIL, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO ME.

AND SECONDLY, AND LASTLY, THE GENTLEMAN THAT GAVE THE SLIDE OVER THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS, THE TOTAL HE SHOWED WAS $31.6 MILLION. IF YOU ADD THE FOUR NUMBERS ON THAT SLIDE, THEY ADD UP TO $31.4 MILLION.

THAT'S NOT A BIG IMPACT. BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ALL OF THE DATA SUBMITTED SO FAR BASED ON LOOK AT THE DATA THAT ONE SIDE WAS ALREADY INCORRECT. I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT IN YOUR VOTING AND ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS DATA CENTER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, PLEASE.

HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SANDRA HORN BRUNDAGE AND I'M A RESIDENT OF RED ROCK.

I'M RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF. I'M HERE TODAY TO STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS PROJECT.

ON THE REZONING REQUEST FOR LA ROSA ENERGY AND DATA CENTER.

EVEN SCALED DOWN THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING OF THIS MASSIVE ACREAGE REMAINS AN UNACCEPTABLE THREAT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

FIRST, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVASTATING COMPOUNDING IMPACT ON RED ROCK.

LA ALSO BRINGS A ONE GIGAWATT GAS FIRED POWER PLANT TO OUR DOORSTEPS, BUT IT ISN'T ACTING IN A VACUUM.

THIS EXACT AREA IS ALSO SLATED TO HOUSE TWO GAS FIRED POWER PLANTS BY THE SUNBRIDGE POWER LLC. THEY HAVE PLANS TO BUILD THAT IN TWO PHASES.

THEN, A PS IS EXPANDING ITS FOOTPRINT WITH YET ANOTHER GAS FIRED POWER PLANT.

IT DOESN'T STOP THERE. WE'VE ALSO GOT THREE OTHER COMPANIES WHO ARE PUSHING TO ADD UTILITY SCALE SOLAR FARMS AND MASSIVE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS. BESS BUILDINGS ALL THE WHILE, PINAL AIRPARK PLANS ITS OWN MAJOR EXPANSION, FORCING

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EXTENSIVE BATTERY COMPLEXES, SOLAR INDUSTRIALIZATION AND AIRPORT EXPANSION IS AN EGREGIOUS, UNFAIR BURDEN TO AIR QUALITY. MY AIR QUALITY, AND THAT'S WHY MY HUSBAND AND I LIVED OUT THERE.

BECAUSE I LIVED IN TUCSON, I COULDN'T BREATHE.

WE'RE FACING AN UNDENIABLE CRISIS REGARDING WATER SECURITY.

WE'RE IN THE PINAL ACTIVE MANAGEMENT AREA. OUR GROUNDWATER IS STRICTLY REGULATED AND WE WILL BE GETTING OUR NUMBERS REDUCED THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR, AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

THAT'S ALREADY A GIVEN. THEY'VE ANNOUNCED THAT THEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEGRADATION CANNOT BE UNDONE.

THIS INDUSTRIAL HUB DIRECTLY BORDERS THE IRONWOOD FOREST NATIONAL MONUMENT.

THE SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE, TRANSMISSION LINES, PIPELINES REQUIRED TO FEED THESE COMBINED PROJECTS WILL PERMANENTLY FRAG A FRAGILE ECOSYSTEM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. NEXT. AND BEFORE I ALMOST CAN THINK OF YOUR NAME.

WHAT'S YOUR NAME? CINDY OWENS. YOU SAID CINDY.

DID YOU MEAN KELLI? I CINDY, I DID SAY CINDY, BUT BEFORE I BEFORE YOU SPEAK.

DESIREE MCCOLLUM, ROBERT DE LA CRUZ. THOMAS. SILVA, GLENDA.

ABERCROMBIE. KAREN WALKER. JUDITH. TAFT. KELLY.

OWENS. BENJAMIN. BURTON. DOUGLAS. ENNIS. OKAY.

HI, I'M CINDY OWENS, AND I LIVE IN THE MAYSVILLE MISSILE BASE AREA.

I JUST WANT TO SAY DITTO TO PRETTY MUCH ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED IN HERE.

NOT TO WASTE TIME. I AM OPPOSING THE DATA CENTER AT LOWE'S AND WOULD APPRECIATE A NO VOTE ON THE REZONING FROM YOU GUYS. WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO FOR US AS CITIZENS HERE IN THE COUNTY.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING CONTINUED SUPPORT FROM YOU WITH THESE ISSUES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT. HELLO. I'M GLENDA ABERCROMBIE AND I LIVE IN RED ROCK, AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH MANY OF YOU DURING THIS PROCESS ABOUT THE FACT THAT I'M URGING YOU TO PLEASE VOTE NO.

OUR MAIN PROBLEM IN RED ROCK IS AIR. AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO BE ABLE TO BREATHE.

AND MANY OF YOU HAVE ACTUALLY LISTENED TO US ABOUT THIS BECAUSE OF ALL THE CUMULATIVE EFFECTS THAT ARE GOING ON.

AND THESE PROJECTS SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT RELATED TO LA OSA.

HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE. I WON'T GET INTO THAT.

BUT EVEN THEM THEY CAME ON TODAY SAYING THAT EV FOUR WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR POWER, BUT THEN LATER ON, WHAT DO THEY DO? ADMIT NO WE DON'T.

IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A DONE THING. EV FOUR GIVING US POWER.

SO ALSO AT THE VERY BEGINNING, THE BOARD TOLD US THAT THESE STIPULATIONS THAT THEY'VE MADE DON'T REALLY MATTER, REALLY CAN'T CONSIDER THOSE. SO IN MY MIND, IT'S STILL 59 BUILDINGS, 59 DATA CENTERS, ALL PUMPING OUT HEAT, ALL TAKING THEIR SWEET TIME, DOING ALL THIS DATA.

AND WE ALREADY HAVE SO MANY IN OUR COUNTRY. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT NEEDS TO BE IN OUR BACKYARD.

IT'S FOUR AND A HALF MILES FROM RED ROCK. SUN RIDGE, WHOM THEY BROUGHT UP MANY TIMES, IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN THREE MILES.

WE DIDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT INITIALLY BECAUSE WE WEREN'T MADE AWARE OF IT.

WE WERE WE WE DIDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT. ORIGINALLY.

YOU DIDN'T HEAR FROM RED ROCK BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T TELL US ABOUT IT.

THEY WERE REQUIRED TO TELL RED ROCK REQUIRE THEY WERE REQUIRED TO SEND A NOTIFICATION TO OUR HOA AND THEY DID NOT. MANY OF US HAVE CONFIRMED THAT AND SENT YOU LETTERS ABOUT THAT FACT.

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THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS DOUG JENNINGS. I LIVE IN MARANA, AND FOR OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS, I'VE ORGANIZED DOZENS OF VOLUNTEERS TO CONDUCT WILDLIFE SURVEYS IN THE SANTA CRUZ FLATS AREA, WHICH. IN WHICH THIS WHICH INCLUDES THE AREA WHERE THE LOWEST DATA CENTER WOULD BE BUILT. THE SANTA CRUZ FLATS AREA IS NAMED FOR THE SANTA CRUZ RIVER, WHICH USED TO FLOW MORE WIDELY THROUGH THE AREA.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, IN THE EARLY 1900S, THEY CONSTRUCTED THE GREEN CANAL.

WE HEARD A REFERENCE TO THE GREEN WASH, BUT ACTUALLY IT'S A MAJOR RIPARIAN AREA, NOT JUST A WASH.

THERE'S A CANAL WITH WATER GOING THROUGH IT AND TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VEGETATION, COTTONWOODS, WILLOWS. IT'S IT'S THE PRINCIPAL RIPARIAN AREA THROUGH THE SANTA CRUZ FLATS AREA.

AND IT'S WHERE THE WATER TABLE IS THE HIGHEST, AND IT'S A.

IT'S HOME TO MANY BREEDING BIRDS AND ANIMALS, AND IT DESERVES TO BE CONSERVED.

IT'S NOT JUST SOME SORT OF BARREN DESERT AREA.

THERE ARE PLACES IN PINAL COUNTY WHERE A DATA CENTER COULD BE BUILT THAT WOULD NOT HAVE THE SAME ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

SO MY QUESTION REALLY IS, IF THE WATER NEEDS ARE NOT THAT GREAT, AS WE WERE TOLD THIS MORNING FOR THIS DATA CENTER, WHY BUILD IT IN THE ONE PLACE IN THE WHERE THE WATER TABLE IS REALLY HIGH? IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY REALLY ARE TRYING TO TAP INTO EASY WATER SUPPLY.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE, WHERE THE WATER IS.

SO I WOULD URGE THAT, I DON'T KNOW, THERE WAS A VERY VAGUE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES HAD BEEN MADE REGARDING THIS PLAN.

SO I WOULD REALLY URGE THAT VERY SERIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL SURVEYS BE MADE AND CONSIDERATIONS MADE BEFORE ACCEPTING THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. COME ON DOWN.

MY NAME IS KELLY OWENS AND I LIVE IN SOUTHERN PINAL COUNTY VERY CLOSE TO THESE SITES.

FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE I START, I ACTUALLY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF YOU. YOU GUYS KIND OF GOT A BAD RAP, BUT I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT I APPRECIATE MEETING WITH EACH ONE OF YOU AND YOU LISTENING TO THE CONCERNS THAT I ADDRESS.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT FROM A PERSON THAT LIVES IN THE COUNTY.

SECOND OF ALL, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DATA CENTERS.

I'M OPPOSED TO A DATA CENTER AT THIS LOCATION.

AND ALL OF YOU UNDERSTAND KIND OF MY POSITION.

I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF IT BECAUSE IT'S RATHER A BOOK, BUT I DO WANT TO SUBMIT, AND I THINK YOU'LL CREDIT ME FOR HOURS OF TIME BECAUSE I'M SUBMITTING 80 SIGNATURES OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN RED ROCK THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. SO I SAVED YOU THE BUS TRIP AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THAT. SECOND OF ALL, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF MY FELLOW UNION BROTHERS. I'M A VESTED MEMBER OF A UNION MYSELF, LIFELONG.

ONE THING THAT THEY'RE NOT AWARE OF IS MY FLOOD REPORT THAT I THINK EVERYBODY HAS SEEN THAT IT SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF A FLOOD ZONE.

IN 1983. 13 PEOPLE DIED IN A MAJOR FLOOD EVENT IN THE SANTA CRUZ RIVER, VERY NEAR THIS SITE.

AND AS A UNION MEMBER, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY OFTEN LOOK OUT FOR IS THE HEALTH, WEALTH AND SAFETY OF UNION MEMBERS.

SO ALL THESE WORKERS, I FEEL FOR THEM. BUT WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WHEN A WALL OF WATER 30FT HIGH COMES DOWN THAT RIVER WHEN THEY'RE WORKING IN THE MIDDLE OF IT,

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I'M NOT A FLOOD ENGINEER, BUT I'VE ACTUALLY CONSULTED WITH THE FLOOD ENGINEER, AND HE AGREES 100% WITH MY IDEAS OF WHAT THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SO I'M GOING TO SUBMIT THAT TO THE COURT OR TO HER AS WELL.

AGAIN, I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS. AS FAR AS WE NEED SOME REGULATIONS IN PLACE.

AND PLEASE, LET'S WORK ON THAT FIRST AND THEN.

AND I'M NOT A NO FOR DATA CENTER. I'M A NO FOR THIS LOCATION.

REAL QUICK, THIS SITE IS PERFECT FOR A WATER ACCUMULATION TO RE PUT WATER BACK INTO THE AQUIFER.

AND THIS WHOLE AREA, THAT WOULD BE AN IDEAL USE FOR THAT THAT AND FOR CATTLE USE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT.

ALRIGHT, I'M PRETTY LOUD. SO DO A MIC CHECK. THAT'S OKAY.

YOU CAN STAY BACK FROM THE. ALRIGHT. IS THAT GOOD.

YES. GO RIGHT HERE. ALRIGHT. KELLY OWENS EVERYBODY.

WONDERFUL MAN. I'VE GOT TO MEET HIM FROM BEING INVOLVED IN THIS.

I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY. WELL GOOD AFTERNOON. NOW, WHEN I WROTE THIS IT WAS GOOD MORNING, BUT TIME HAS PASSED.

I'D REALLY LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT I APPRECIATE Y'ALL STARTING THIS OFF WITH A PRAYER THAT GAVE ME A LOT OF HOPE, ESPECIALLY WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE LATELY, HOW THEY TRY TO REMOVE PRAYER FROM PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING NOW.

SO IT REALLY GAVE ME A LOT OF HOPE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE COUNTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS HERE. EVERYBODY WHO ISN'T A LANDOWNER OR BUSINESS OWNER SEEMS TERRIFIED, UPSET, OR BOTH. AND YOUR DECISION WILL REFLECT EITHER THE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO DON'T LIVE NEAR IT OR THE PEOPLE.

I MOVED TO PINELLAS COUNTY BECAUSE Y'ALL WERE IN AMERICA, PEOPLE FIRST COUNTY.

Y'ALL REALLY ADVOCATE FOR RIGHTS AND THE WELL-BEING OF CITIZENS.

I FEEL LIKE THE CORRUPTION IS AS LOW AS IT CAN BE.

AS YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU COULD EXPECT YOU'RE A PRO TO A COUNTY.

YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT IS INCREDIBLE. YOU KNOW, SHERIFF LAMB'S DONE A GREAT REPUTATION AND A LOT OF THE OTHER SHERIFFS HERE DO THEIR JOB VERY WELL. AND I'M NOW EVEN MORE GRATEFUL BECAUSE OF THE PRAYER, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.

THEY BROUGHT UP THE BEST GUY THEY COULD TO TRY TO CONVINCE US ON WHY THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR US TO DO.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CROWD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

ALL THE RED SHIRTS THAT YOU SEE, THAT'S US TRYING TO UNIFY, TO SHOW YOU THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, TO STOP IT. AND ALMOST, IF NOT ALL OF THE PROS ARE, LIKE I SAID, THE LANDOWNERS OR THE BUSINESS PEOPLE.

THAT'S NOT A SURPRISE. THEY TRY TO GIVE US A LOT OF STATISTICS.

BUT IN REALITY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CONCERNS OVERALL QUALITY OF THE ENVIRONMENT, JUST POLLUTION IN GENERAL, AIR, WATER, WILDLIFE, RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, LIGHT POLLUTION.

I THINK IT'S PRETTY COMMON SENSE THAT OXYGEN AND WATER ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN MONEY AND JOBS, YOU KNOW? SO THIS GIANT HUM THAT I'M HEARING ABOUT THAT SOUNDS TERRIBLE.

THERE'S CONSTRUCTION GOING ON RIGHT NOW. IF YOU WANT TO EXPERIENCE THAT, JUST GO SIT IN THAT ROOM. THE WILDLIFE THAT'S GOING TO GET AFFECTED.

THERE'S A CHILDREN'S SCHOOL IN THE RED ROCK NEIGHBORHOOD. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S EXACTLY A VERY SAFE THING TO BE PUTTING RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO LITERALLY AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROPERTY VALUES LAND, RIGHT. ALL THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THAT THEY'RE ALREADY HAVING TROUBLE SELLING.

I KNOW A COUPLE PEOPLE TRYING TO SELL NOW IN RED ROCK. THEY'RE STRUGGLING BECAUSE WHO WANTS TO LIVE NEXT TO ALL THIS? RIGHT? IT'S NOT EXACTLY A SELLING POINT. LOCATION, LOCATION. YOU KNOW GUARANTEES. WHAT KIND OF GUARANTEES DO WE HAVE TO BE PROTECTED FROM THIS STUFF? YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO GET COMPENSATED IF WE TOLD YOU ALL ABOUT THIS AND THEY COME IN AND DO IT ANYWAY AND IT CRUSHES OUR PROPERTY VALUES.

OH, SORRY. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. WE HAVE MANY EXAMPLES, RIGHT, WHERE MONEY IS CHOSEN OVER THE PEOPLE.

CORRUPTION IS EVERYWHERE. MINNESOTA IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.

CALIFORNIA, ALL THESE OTHER PLACES. BUT I REALLY JUST HOPE THAT Y'ALL CAN, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT WHAT JESUS WOULD DO SINCE WE STARTED THIS OFF WITH A PRAYER AND THINK ABOUT WHAT GOD WOULD WANT US TO DO.

THANK YOU. COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? YES, SIR. MY NAME IS BENJAMIN BURTON AND I LIVE IN RED ROCK VILLAGE. THANK YOU.

SO I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE. HOW ABOUT LET'S GO BACK TO KAREN WALKER.

JUDITH TARR TAFT ALBERTO VILLALPANDO. GOT THAT ONE.

GARY METIVIER, I SEE YOU OUT THERE. NANCY HARTLE, NOAH HISCOX RANELLA WHITE.

SIR, IF I CALL YOU. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME. COME ON DOWN.

CHAIR. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.

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WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF OUR MEMBERS THAT LIVE RIGHT IN ELOY, IN CASA GRANDE.

FOR THOSE MEMBERS THIS PROJECT, THIS PROJECT WOULD MEAN SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.

THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK CLOSER TO HOME FOR ABOUT NEARLY TEN YEARS NOW.

MOST OF THOSE MEMBERS HAVE WORKED OVER IN THE PHOENIX AREA.

IN TUCSON AREA. THAT'S 3 TO 4 HOURS ROUND TRIP.

THAT'S A THAT'S A LONG TIME COMMUTING. THAT'S A LOT OF TIME SITTING BEHIND THE WHEEL INSTEAD OF SITTING AT HOME AT THE DINNER TABLE WITH THEIR FAMILIES.

IT MEANS MISSING SCHOOL EVENTS, MISSING BALLGAMES, MISSING IMPORTANT MOMENTS WITH THEIR KIDS AND NOT ALWAYS BEING THERE TO HELP WITH THE HOMEWORK. THESE ARE THINGS THAT MAY SEEM SMALL, BUT FOR WORKING FAMILIES THAT MATTERS.

THERE IS ALSO A SERIOUS SAFETY CONCERN. WE HAVE MEMBERS INVOLVED IN SIGNIFICANT CAR CRASHES BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF DRIVE TIME THEY'VE HAD.

JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE HAD ONE OF OUR MEMBERS DRIVING BACK FROM PHOENIX INTO CASA GRANDE WHEN HE WAS INVOLVED IN A SERIOUS ACCIDENT.

THANKFULLY, HE IS OKAY. HE DID SUFFER A FEW BROKEN BONES BUT HAS NOT HAS NOT RETURNED BACK TO WORK BECAUSE OF THOSE INJURIES.

THAT IS A REALITY THAT OUR MEMBERS ARE FACING.

LA ALSO DATA CENTER CAN HELP CHANGE THAT. THE PROJECT CAN KEEP OUR MEMBERS WORKING FOR YEARS TO COME WHILE ALLOWING THEM TO EARN A GOOD LIVING RIGHT THERE IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES. THAT MEANS FEWER HOURS ON THE ROAD, FEWER HOURS ON THE ROAD, MORE TIME WITH THEIR FAMILIES, AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR WORKING PEOPLE TO BUILD THEIR FUTURE WITHOUT HAVING TO LEAVE THEIR OWN HOMETOWN.

THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT BUILDING A DATA CENTER.

THIS IS ABOUT BUILDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR PEOPLE THAT CALL ELOY AND CASA GRANDE HOME.

WE ARE ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT A PROJECT NOT ONLY AS AN INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT ALSO AS AN INVESTMENT FOR OUR WORKING FAMILIES.

HELP US MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. HELP US KEEP OUR MEMBERS WORKING AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HELP US GIVE OUR MEMBERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK CLOSER TO HOME, SPEND MORE TIME WITH THEIR FAMILIES, AND COME HOME SAFELY EVERY NIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. AND BEFORE YOU SPEAK, MISS HARTLE, I'M JUST GOING TO CALL BRENDA HISCOX.

GARY METIVIER RINELLA. WHITE. NOAH HISCOX. ROBYN DAVIS, MARY EILEEN FLANAGAN. AND GO AHEAD, PLEASE. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND SUPERVISORS NANCY HARTLE FROM SAN TAN VALLEY.

I HOPE I CAN MAKE SOME SENSE OUT OF MY NOTES. I SCRIBBLED EVERYTHING OUT. SO MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ALREADY AND I DO SUPPORT.

I'M AGAINST DATA CENTERS. I HAVE BEEN FROM THE BEGINNING.

I'M AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR ONE AND I'M AGAINST ALL OF THEM.

WHAT I WOULD ASK THIS GROUP TO DO, WHETHER IT'S THE ZONING, THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND YOU FOLKS, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE RIGHT NOW A THREE YEAR TAX INCENTIVE MORATORIUM IN ARIZONA, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE BIG DRAW WAS FOR THESE CENTERS IS THE TAX BREAKS.

SO NOW THERE'S A MORATORIUM. I'M ASKING FOR A CONSTRUCTION MORATORIUM UNTIL THE DATA CENTERS, UNTIL YOU REALLY LAY OUT SOME REALLY GOOD GROUNDWORK, STRINGENT LIST OF REGULATIONS AND ORDINANCE AND SO FORTH.

THEY NEED TO BE LEGALLY BINDING AND ENFORCEABLE, AND THEY NEED TO BE SPECIFIC ON FINES AND CONSEQUENCES AND STUFF, BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE AROUND FOR 20 TO 50 YEARS IF THEY'RE PUT IN.

I PERSONALLY HOPE THEY'RE NOT. BUT IF THEY ARE, WE HAVE GOT TO BECAUSE ONCE THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE IN.

SO IN A BIPARTISAN VOICE, 70% OF ARIZONANS AND THE UNITED STATES CITIZENS SAY NO TO AI DATA CENTERS.

THE RISKS JUST OUTWEIGH THE BENEFITS. AND THE PEOPLE EARLIER HAD WONDERFUL PRESENTATIONS ON THE EFFECT ON OUR ENVIRONMENT.

I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO THAT AT ALL. WE ALL KNOW IT'S JUST ACTUALLY REALLY TERRIFYING.

I THINK I FELT LIKE THE THE PRESENTATION BY THE REPRESENTATIVES WAS VERY VAGUE IN MANY THINGS.

AND I REALLY, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY, BUT IT JUST WAS.

THEY DIDN'T HIT ON THE SLUDGE THING. YEAH, I KNOW IT'S A CLOSED LOOP, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE READ YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ALL THE SAME CLOSED LOOP. SO WHEN THAT SLUDGE HAS TO BE GOTTEN RID OF, YOU KNOW, IT IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL MESS. SO THEY ALSO HE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE MINIMAL WATER USE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY MINIMAL WATER IN ARIZONA. AND EVERYBODY SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO GET EVEN WORSE. WE KNOW THAT. AND WE KNOW WITH THE NEW BUREAU OF RECLAMATION AND THE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE DECREASE IN, IN THE COLORADO RIVER WATER THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING, YOU KNOW, MEAD AND PARLOR. SO ANYWAY, SO, SO THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, RATHER TERRIFYING.

SO ANYWAY, TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED THINGS LEGALLY BINDING WHEN YOU DO START DEVELOPING THIS.

AND I SAY, PUT A STOP ON IT AND GO BACK TO THE FRAMEWORK LIKE PEOPLE HAVE SAID, BUT WE NEED NO WATER INTENSIVE COOLING,

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DEVELOPERS MUST PAY FOR THE GRID. NO SHIFTING TO THE CUSTOMERS.

HE DID SAY THEY WOULDN'T, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. I'M SORRY, I JUST DON'T AND THEN MUST INCLUDE INDEPENDENT AIR QUALITY AND GROUNDWATER ANALYSIS.

BATTERY BATTERY FIRE REQUIREMENTS AND STRONG NOISE LIMITS.

THEY TALKED ABOUT THE NOISE LIMITS AND THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG PROBLEM.

TO THE ATTENDEES TODAY, I JUST HAVE TO SAY, AND I REALLY DO, I APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS PLANNING ZONING AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

I KNOW THIS IS A TOUGH JOB AND TOUGH DECISIONS.

I REALLY, I REALLY DO COMMEND YOU, BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.

SO WHEN VOTING THIS YEAR AND BEYOND, CONSIDER WHO SUPPORTS DATA CENTERS, THE CORPORATIONS AND THE ULTRA RICH, SUCH AS OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT WHO DECIDES LOCALLY WHICH ONES TO APPROVE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND WHO WHO APPROVES ALL OF THE UTILITY RATES. THE CORPORATION COMMISSION, MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR AND ESTEEMED BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US TODAY. I'M BRENDA HISCOX.

I LIVE IN COOLIDGE. I AM HERE REPRESENTING MYSELF AS A STAKEHOLDER IN THE COUNTY.

I AM NOT EMPLOYED BY ANY UNION. I AM NOT PAID TO BE HERE.

I'M ASKING FOR A NO VOTE ON THIS PROJECT. I AM NOT AGAINST DATA CENTERS.

IN FACT, I'M PRIVATELY WORKING WITH A FARM AND A DEVELOPER TO GET A SMALL DATA CENTER ON THEIR PARTICULAR FARM.

THAT'S THE PERFECT LOCATION FOR A DATA CENTER.

IT'S ALREADY SURROUNDED BY SOLAR AND BATTERIES, AND THEY HAVE NO NEIGHBORS.

THIS COUNTY HAS ALREADY GIVEN UP 40,000 ACRES TO SOLAR AND BATTERY.

COOLIDGE 8300. ELOY 11,000. WE WERE TOLD WE HAD NO WATER FOR FARMS. WE HAD TO SELL TO SOLAR. IT WAS OUR ONLY OPTION.

WE WERE TOLD THAT THE TAXES, JOBS AND THE POWER WOULD STAY IN PINAL BY THE DEVELOPERS.

WE KNEW THIS WAS NOT TRUE. LAST WEEK AT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES, MAYOR GALLEGOS SAID ALL OF THE POWER GENERATED IN PINAL GOES TO MARICOPA.

WE GAVE UP SO MUCH FOR NOTHING BUT UGLY AND HEAT.

NOW WE'RE TOLD WE HAVE PLENTY OF WATER FOR DATA CENTERS, BUT NOT ENOUGH FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT HAVE XERISCAPE LANDSCAPING.

UTILITIES ARE SORRY. THE WATER USE FOR DATA CENTERS IS GROUNDWATER AND THAT IS CITY WATER.

ANDY BIGGS, WHO'S RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR, SAID WE DON'T HAVE A WATER PROBLEM.

WE HAVE A WATER ALLOCATION PROBLEM. I DON'T THINK ANY TRUER STATEMENT CAN BE MADE.

WE ARE THE LAST PLACE TO COME HOME TO, TO GET AWAY FROM LIFE IN CROWDED MARICOPA, OR WE RISK BEING THE PLACE PEOPLE MOVE AWAY FROM TO GET AWAY FROM WHAT'S BECOMING UGLY. MAYOR GALLEGO SAID SHE WAS WORRIED THAT THE STATE WAS PUTTING TOO MANY EGGS IN THE AI DATA CENTER.

INDUSTRY BASKET. SHE JUST SAID THAT LAST WEEK AS WELL.

IF THIS REZONE GOES THROUGH AND THE FUNDING FOR THE DATA CENTER FALLS THROUGH, OR THEY CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE POWER, BUT IT'S NOW ZONED INDUSTRIAL WILL BE WE WILL WE BE STUCK WITH ANOTHER 3000 ACRES OF SOLAR AND BATTERY? THAT'S THE BIG UNKNOWN. SO I'M URGING YOU TO DENY THIS AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN. BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS GARY METIVIER. I LIVE IN PAPAGO BUTTES RANCH HOUSE, TWO, SOUTHEAST OF CITY OF MARICOPA IN UNINCORPORATED PINAL COUNTY.

I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO BE VOTING NO ON THIS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS ASKING YOU.

I HAVE A BETTER IDEA. WHY DON'T WE PUT A CODE IN PLACE FIRST BEFORE WE APPROVE ANY MORE OF THESE TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR BY THE APPLICANT, DATA CENTERS, SOLAR, WIND, WHATEVER GREEN TECHNOLOGY YOU WANT TO BE LOOKING AT, WE HAVE NO CODE TO ENFORCE ANYTHING. THE STIPULATIONS ARE WORTHLESS.

NO OFFENSE, GUYS, BUT THIS BOARD HAS A HISTORY OF IGNORING STIPULATIONS AND NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.

SO I URGE YOU GUYS TO DRAW UP A CODE FIRST BEFORE WE ALLOW ANY MORE OF THESE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGIES TO MOVE FORWARD THROUGH P AND Z OR THIS BOARD. WE NEED THAT. WE NEED THE SAFEGUARDS.

IT'S GOT TO BE GUARDRAILS AND SOMETHING CONCRETE IN PLACE THAT CAN BE MEASURED TO KEEP THESE PEOPLE IN LINE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

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I FARM RANCH AND LIVE ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.

IN THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF NEGATIVE ATTENTION AND IT STIRRED SOME DEEP RESENTMENT OVER THIS PROJECT.

A MAJORITY OF THAT OPPOSITION COMES FROM PEOPLE LIVING MILES FROM THE PROJECT.

THE RESIDENTS OF RED ROCK VILLAGE, WHO LIVE FOUR AND A HALF MILES EAST OF THE END OF THE PROJECT, ARE CONVINCED THAT THE LOSS OF DATA CENTER WILL RUIN THE AMBIANCE, THE AIR, THE EVERYTHING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN FACT, MANY MILES AWAY.

THERE ARE, OF COURSE, SOME PEOPLE WHO DO LIVE CLOSER TO THE PROJECT, BUT THIS DATA CENTER SITS IN A VERY REMOTE AND SPARSELY POPULATED AREA, AND RED ROCK DOESN'T HAVE ANY DATA CENTERS OR SOLAR FARMS OR ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. IN THAT AREA, I THINK WE GET A CLEARER PICTURE WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS AS A LAND USE AND ZONING ISSUE AND NOT AS AN EMOTIONAL, NOT IN MY BACKYARD ISSUE, AND IN FACT, NOT IN MY EXPANDED BACKYARD.

REZONING THIS PROPERTY WILL NOT DENY ANYONE THE ABILITY TO FARM, RANCH, BUILD A HOME, OR RECREATE ON THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY BECAUSE THIS LAND IS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS, WHEN EXERCISED WITHIN THE REGULATIONS AND CODES SET FORTH BY THE COUNTY, ARE A BASIC PRINCIPLE OF OUR FREE SOCIETY. THE DEVELOPERS HAVE PLANNED RESPONSIBLY.

THEY HAVE LISTENED TO CONCERNS. THERE ARE STRICT STIPULATIONS ADDRESSING POWER, WATER, NOISE, LIGHT AND SO FORTH THAT WILL PROTECT THE LAND AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NEAR THIS.

THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT CONCERN ABOUT THE WATER USE.

THE 600 ACRE FOOT OF WATER. AND I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE.

I DON'T THINK EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THIS. THEY.

TELL US HOW MANY GALLONS IT IS, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GALLONS.

AND IT IS. BUT ACTUALLY 600 ACRE FEET OF WATER.

WATER IS ABOUT ENOUGH TO GROW 200 ACRES OF A TYPICAL PINAL COUNTY CROP, AND THE IRRIGATED FARMLAND IN THE ELOY AND RED ROCK AREA IS ACTUALLY 87,000 ACRES.

NOW, THAT IS NOT ALL UNDER IRRIGATION OR FARMED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE DROUGHT AND WATER CUTS, BUT THAT IS ACTUALLY THOSE ARE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS.

SO THE WATER USE FOR THAT AREA IS NOT IS NOT AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT, WITH THE STIPULATIONS SET FORTH BY LAW AND THE REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS IN PLACE BY THE COUNTY.

I BELIEVE THAT THE ESSER.CA DATA CENTER WILL NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE OF A PATENT IMPACT UPON THE RESIDENTS OR THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE AREA, AND IT WILL IN FACT, BE A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY AND THE RED ROCK AREA BY THE IMPROVED INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE TAX REVENUE IT WILL BRING.

I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISS.

MISS HISCOX IS MISS HISCOX. IS NOAH STILL HERE? I'M SORRY. OKAY, SO I WON'T CALL HIS NAME AGAIN.

I'M JUST TRYING TO. I'M GETTING DOWN LOW AND I'M LIKE, SO.

OKAY. JUST CHECKING. OKAY. CHAIR SUPERVISORS.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M ROBIN DAVIS AND I LIVE IN HIDDEN VALLEY.

YES, I'M ON THE WEST END OF THE COUNTY, BUT I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE LOSS OF DATA CENTER AND SUPPORT OUR COUNTY RESIDENTS ON THE EAST SIDE.

WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T STOP THIS HERE. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THERE.

THERE'LL BE NO AREA IN PINAL COUNTY THAT WILL BE SAFE.

SO TODAY, YOU HAVE HEARD A LOT OF REALLY GREAT FACTS AND INFORMATION WHY THIS DATA CENTER DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS LOCATION.

GREAT FACTS FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESEARCHED THIS IN DEPTH.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THEM ALL, BUT I THINK THERE'S NO BETTER EXAMPLE OF ALL THAT IS WRONG ABOUT THIS DATA CENTER THAN THE EMAIL THAT JESSICA SAINT-ANDRE SENT YOU GUYS.

I CANNOT DO ANY BETTER. SHE BROUGHT THE RECEIPTS.

SO DID MARK SEIDEL. A FEW BULLET POINTS THAT I PICKED UP FROM THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.

THEY ARE BUYING THE PUBLIC OPINION. THE STRIPS ARE RARELY ADHERED TO.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE 56 STRIPS. WHO'S GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM? WE DON'T KNOW. 56 BUILDINGS TO 11 PROBABLY PLANNED ALL ALONG.

ASK FOR MORE THAN YOU WANT AND SETTLE FOR WHAT YOU REALLY WANTED.

ALSO, 1.25 MILLION ACRE FEET OF WATER IS WHAT ARIZONA IS BEING ASKED TO CUT.

WHERE'S THEIR 600 ACRE FEET? ACRE FEET OF WATER GOING TO COME FROM? WHO'S GOING TO SACRIFICE? WHO'S GOING TO GIVE UP THEIR WATER? AND THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION CONTRARY TO THEIR 55 TO 60DB, ANYTHING CONTINUOUS OVER 45DB IS DANGEROUS FOR HUMAN HEALTH.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE STUDIES, PEER REVIEWED. THEY KEEP POLLINATORS AWAY AND THAT SOUND WILL CHANGE THE ECOSYSTEM.

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THE PERCEPTION IS YOU DON'T EVEN LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT SPOKE AGAINST IT.

IT'S LIKE WE DID NOT EXIST. NOW, THIS IS THE PERCEPTION AND THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE LEAVE HERE THINKING THAT'S HAPPENING.

SO IN CLOSING, WE, THE PEOPLE OF PINAL COUNTY AND ACROSS THE NATION ARE UP IN ARMS ABOUT THESE DATA CENTERS COMING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FOR ALL THE GOOD REASONS THE WATER, ELECTRICITY, EVERYTHING ELSE. AND IT'S TIME TO STOP THE MADNESS.

PINAL COUNTY MUST DO BETTER. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE, THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE OVER TWO MEETINGS THAT SAY, NO, WE CAN'T DO THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ALL THE VARIOUS REASONS WE THE PEOPLE COME BEFORE YOU REQUESTING THAT YOU PROTECT OUR RIGHTS, IT'S TIME TO PROTECT THOSE OF US WHO ALREADY LIVE THERE.

SADLY, OUR PROTECTION AS CITIZENS HAS GONE OUT THE WINDOW.

SO WE ASK YOU TO LISTEN TO US AND VOTE NO. ALLOW.

VOTE NO ON ALLOWING THIS DATA CENTER REZONING TO GO FORWARD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISS FLANAGAN. BEFORE YOU GO, I'M GOING TO CALL A FEW OTHER NAMES HERE STEPHEN FRANKLIN, PERLA MARTINEZ, THERON, CONNOR, SEAN LOPEZ, DEAN.

KELLY. WE ALREADY HAD STEPHEN FRANKLIN, DID I? OH, GREAT. OKAY, SORRY. BACK UP. NEVER MIND. REWIND.

OKAY. JULIA. GUSSIE. CRAIG. PATRICK. MEGAN. JENSEN.

SARAH. FROM LARSON. NOW. YOU, MA'AM. HELLO. MY NAME IS MARY EILEEN FLANAGAN AND I LIVE IN HIDDEN VALLEY.

I'M CONCERNED THAT THE COUNTY HAS NO REGULATIONS OR CLEAR ZONING ORDINANCE FOR DATA CENTERS AT THIS TIME.

I WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO PLEASE DENY THIS REQUEST UNTIL WE HAVE CLEAR ZONING RULES AND ENFORCEABLE CONSEQUENCES FOR VIOLATING THE ORDINANCES.

I WOULD ALSO REQUEST THAT THE ZONING PROCESS GO THROUGH A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

NOW, SINCE I ONLY HAVE A LITTLE TIME, LET'S TALK ABOUT ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE THE WATER CAPITAL DATA CENTER, BECAUSE 600 ACRE FEET NET SOUNDS LIKE A SMALL AMOUNT UNTIL YOU LOOK AT WHAT IT ACTUALLY COVERS.

600 ACRE FEET NET IS ABOUT 195 MILLION GALLONS A YEAR BY THE STATE'S OWN MATH.

ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES SAYS ONE ACRE FOOT SERVES THREE ARIZONA HOMES.

THAT'S ROUGHLY WHAT 1800 HOUSEHOLDS USE IN A YEAR.

THE AMA IS ALREADY VERY STRESSED. MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS WELLS HAVE GONE DRY AND REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DEPTH.

IT CURRENTLY COSTS ABOUT $70,000 TO DRILL A WELL TO 900FT.

THE PROBLEM IS, FOR MANY, WATER IS AT 1200FT.

WHAT HAPPENS TO LAND AND HOME VALUES WHEN WE HAVE HOMES WITH NO WATER? THIS PROPOSED CAP ONLY LIMITS POTABLE WATER. IT DOESN'T TOUCH CONSTRUCTION WATER.

THE DUST SUPPRESSION, GRADING AND CONCRETE WORK FOR 11 400 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FOOT DATA CENTER BUILDINGS.

THE AFFLUENT OFFSET IS OPTIONAL. THE APPLICANT MAY CHOOSE TO BUY EFFLUENT TO REDUCE ITS POTABLE USE, BUT NOTHING REQUIRES IT. IF THEY DON'T USE EFFLUENT, THEIR WATER COMES FROM THE GROUNDWATER.

THE FARMERS AND NEIGHBORS ARE PUMPING, AND THE COUNTY MAY NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO ENFORCE ANY CAP.

GROUNDWATER IN ARIZONA IS REGULATED BY THE STATE, NOT THE COUNTY.

IT'S AN OPEN QUESTION WHETHER PINAL COUNTY CAN ENFORCE A WATER LIMIT AT ALL.

IT WRITES INTO ZONING STIPULATION. ONE MORE THING WORTH REMEMBERING.

THIS LAND IS ZONED GENERAL RURAL. RIGHT NOW, THE MOST WATER IT USES IS CATTLE GRAZING, WHICH IS, SOMEONE RECENTLY JOKED DOESN'T USE MUCH UNLESS THE COWS HAVE STARTED TAKING DAILY SHOWERS.

SO WHEN YOU HEAR THE DATA CENTER SAVES WATER, ASK YOURSELF COMPARED TO WHAT? NOT TO THE RURAL LAND THAT'S ACTUALLY THERE. SO THE CAMP IS A POTABLE ONLY OPTIONALLY OFFSET BY EFFLUENT, POSSIBLY UNENFORCEABLE, SEALING EQUAL TO 1800 HOMES WORTH OF WATER.

ON TOP OF UNCAPPED CONSTRUCTION USE OVER AN AQUIFER THAT'S ALREADY SHRINKING IN AN AREA WITH CONCENTRATED FISSURES.

THE FISSURES ARE AN ADDITIONAL CONCERN. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN BUILDINGS ARE AFFECTED? WILL THERE BE ABANDONED BUILDINGS ON THIS LAND? WILL REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS BE FORTHCOMING? THERE ARE TOO MANY QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THIS FACILITY.

PLEASE, LET'S GET ZONING IN PLACE BEFORE WE APPROVE A ZONING CHANGE.

LEAVE THE AREA FOR A GENERAL RULE, AT LEAST FOR NOW.

PLEASE LISTEN TO YOUR STAKEHOLDERS AND CONSTITUENTS AND VOTE NO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT.

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I'M ALSO A CURRENT CANDIDATE FOR THE ARIZONA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

I'M OPPOSING THE DATA CENTER TODAY. I'M OPPOSING IT BECAUSE IT WILL RAISE ARIZONA'S UTILITY COSTS.

AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM EVERYONE ELSE MENTIONING THIS, USE UP VITAL RESOURCES AND DEGRADE THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND COMMUNITIES HERE IN PINAL COUNTY. THE DEVELOPERS WILL TELL YOU THAT DATA CENTERS ARE THE FUTURE, BUT WHOSE FUTURE FAMILIES AND RESIDENTS IN PINAL COUNTY DO NOT WANT THIS FUTURE. I BELIEVE IN BUILDING NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOUSING AND PANEL SO THAT FAMILIES CAN AFFORD TO BUILD A LIFE HERE.

BUT THE DATA CENTER PROJECT WILL MAKE THOSE GOALS EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE.

EVEN WITH THE NEW STIPULATIONS, THERE IS A RISK OF THE PROJECT WILL RAISE THE PRICE OF ELECTRICITY FOR PINAL FAMILIES.

EVEN WITH THE 600 ACRE FEET PER YEAR WATER LIMIT AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT IS ENOUGH WATER TO SERVE UP TO 1800 HOUSEHOLDS IN PINAL COUNTY AT A TIME WHEN OUR WATER WAS JUST MADE MORE SCARCE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

CUTS TO THE ARIZONA COLORADO RIVER ALLOTMENTS.

AND IT WILL IMPACT THE QUALITY OF OUR ENVIRONMENT AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR FAMILIES.

NEARBY COMMUNITIES. I FEAR FOR MY CHILDREN AND MY GRANDCHILDREN'S FUTURE IF PROJECTS LIKE THIS CONTINUE TO PROCEED, AND THUS I CALL THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO PLEASE LISTEN TO THE VOICES IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS AND NOT APPROVE THIS DATA CENTER PROJECT.

TO ALL OUR UNIONS HERE. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO BE HERE.

MY DAD WAS A UNION WORKER, A WELDER FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

I SUPPORT YOU 100%. BUT PLEASE DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME.

DON'T GET ME WRONG, I AM PRO INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE NEED TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY WANTS AND ACTUALLY NEEDS, NOT DATA CENTERS SERVING BIG CORPORATIONS OUTSIDE OF THIS GREAT STATE OF ARIZONA.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE LANGUAGE OF MY VETERAN BROTHER, BUT I ALSO THANK YOU FOR GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THOROUGHLY ON HIS CONCERNS.

BUT THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS MEGAN JENSEN AND I LIVE HERE IN FLORENCE. I WAS RAISED HERE AND I, I DON'T WANT TO SOUND REDUNDANT.

HERE I AM 18 I DID NOT VOTE FOR ANY OF YOU. AND SO BUT I AM ASKING YOU THAT YOU REPRESENT THE PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE VOTED YOU INTO OFFICE, INTO OFFICE, AND YOU REPRESENT THE UPRISING GENERATION WHO WILL BE ABLE TO START VOTING.

AND I AM 18, 30 YEARS FROM NOW, I WILL BE 48.

I WILL HAVE KIDS, I WILL HAVE MY OWN FAMILY, AND I WOULD LOVE TO RAISE MY FAMILY HERE IN PINAL COUNTY.

I LOVE THIS LAND. THIS IS THE LAND THAT I CALL HOME AND I WILL CONTINUE.

AND SO I, I DON'T WANT TO SOUND REDUNDANT AND, BUT PLEASE THINK OF THE GENERATIONAL IMPACT THAT THIS WILL HAVE ON US AND MY FUTURE KIDS AND YOUR GRANDKIDS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND ALSO WE DO LIVE IN A DESERT AND THE WHOLE CLOSED WATER COOLING SYSTEM THAT HAS PROVEN NOT TO WORK BEFORE.

AND SO THIS IS, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME OUT. MR. LARSON, BEFORE YOU START, PERLA MARTINEZ, DARREN CONNOR, SEAN LOPEZ, DEAN, KELLY, CRAIG, PATRICK. AND WE'LL THROW IN BARRY MCCAIN. GO AHEAD SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SARAH LARSON. I OPPOSE THE PROPOSAL TO REZONE LA ROSA TO I3 INDUSTRIAL FROM GENERAL RURAL.

I'M A RESIDENT OF CACTUS FOREST PRECINCT SOUTH OF FLORENCE.

I SINCERELY RESPECT AND AM GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS TO PROTECT PROPERTY RIGHTS, LOWER TAXES, INCREASE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, AND ESPECIALLY FOR YOUR FOCUS ON WATER RIGHTS.

YOU'VE ALL DONE TREMENDOUS WORK HERE. BUT ONE THING THE UNION GUYS SEEM TO BE MISSING IS THAT THIS ISN'T EVEN A REAL PROJECT.

THEY'VE BEEN SOLD A BILL OF GOODS, I THINK. THERE'S NO DEVELOPER.

THERE'S NO BUILDER. THERE'S NO OPERATOR. THERE'S NO ACTUAL DATA CENTER.

THERE'S NO ACTUAL PROJECT. IT'S ONLY A SPECULATIVE EXAMPLE.

VERMALEN ONLY WANTS TO GET THE I3 ZONING SO THEY CAN RESELL THE LAND AT A HIGHER PRICE.

AND THEY HAVE STATED THIS OPENLY. THEY STILL HAVE THE LAND OFFERED FOR SALE.

SO I THINK THE UNION GUYS HAVE, LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE BEEN SOLD A BILL OF GOODS.

THEY'VE WASTED A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY BUSTING ALL THEIR GUYS HERE FROM PHOENIX TO SUPPORT A PROJECT THAT ISN'T EVEN LIKELY TO EVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.

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I KNOW AT LEAST ONE OF YOU HAS VISITED THE DATA CENTERS IN GOODYEAR.

I THINK THESE ARE GREAT PROJECTS. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOODYEAR AND LA OSSA IS VERY CLEAR.

THOSE WERE REAL PROJECTS. THEY WERE SPONSORED BY CREDIBLE AND SERIOUS LANDOWNERS LIKE MICROSOFT.

YOU KNOW WHO DID REAL WORK WITH LOCAL AUTHORITIES TO RESPECT THE CITY'S NEEDS AND ITS RESIDENTS IN SHARP CONTRAST.

LHASA IS A SPECULATORS PROJECT, TRYING TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK BY SELLING THE INDUSTRIAL ENTITLEMENT TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER.

THIS IS CENTRAL TO VERMEULEN'S BUSINESS MODEL.

IT'S COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE FOR A PROJECT AT THIS SCALE WITH SO MANY UNKNOWN OUTLIER IMPACTS.

DON'T GIVE AWAY PINAL COUNTY LAND USE ENTITLEMENT TO UNKNOWN USERS.

THIS PARAGRAPH FROM A RECENT PINAL POST ARTICLE SUMS UP MY POSITION PRETTY WELL.

A PERMANENT INDUSTRIAL REZONING GRANTED TO A LAND BANKING COMPANY IS A BLANK CHECK WRITTEN TO AN UNKNOWN BUYER.

THE COUNTY FIXES THE LAND USE NOW WITH NO NUMERIC CAP ON THE DATA CENTERS ON WATER.

NO PUBLIC SAY OVER HOW A FUTURE OWNER WILL BUILD OR OPERATE THE SITE.

THE COUNTY SHOULD NOT BE WRITING BLANK CHECKS.

THE REAL RISK IS OPEN ENDED. INDUSTRIAL THREE ENTITLEMENT.

WHEN THE ACTUAL USER OF THE LAND IS STILL UNKNOWN.

THAT'S MY ARGUMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU.

MR. MCCAIN, BEFORE YOU START, I'LL AGAIN CALL PERLA MARTINEZ, DARREN.

CONNOR, CRAIG, PATRICK, DEAN, KELLY, SEAN LOPEZ, CHRISTINE FLANAGAN, MARK CARDENAS, SAM MILLER. AND WE'LL STOP THERE, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN MCCLURE, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

MY NAME IS BARRY MCCAIN FROM ARIZONA. WELL. MARICOPA NOW.

BORN AND RAISED. I'VE LISTENED AND THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR SPEAKING.

I'M UNION, BUT I HAVE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH, AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

I TOOK SOME NOTES, SO I'D LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW THE PAIN THRESHOLD I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT WAS THAT WAS 85DB.

THEY DIDN'T SAY THAT. SO THAT TELLS YOU JUST HOW NOISY THAT THESE DATA CENTERS ARE.

THE OTHER THING THEY HAVEN'T SAID, IT GOES BACK TO 19861968.

THEY FOUND OUT THAT OUR BRAINS RUN OUT OF ELECTRICITY TO POWER ON.

THESE DATA CENTERS ARE SO POWERFUL, THEY CAUSE WHAT THEY CALL MUTUAL INDUCTANCE.

SO INSTEAD OF IT AS OUR CHILDREN THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE, OUR BRAINS RUN OFF ELECTRICITY AND THIS POWER IS TOO STRONG. SO IT IT CAUSES CANCER, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE IT BECOMES AN ISOTOPE INSTEAD OF A CELL. SO I'M STAYING HERE. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO HELP US ONE BIT. IF YOU WANT TO GET JOBS TECHNOLOGY JOBS ARE DOWN BY 31% AT THIS TIME.

SO GETTING A JOB WON'T DO YOU ANY GOOD IF IF YOU'RE SICK AND NOT ABLE TO TAKE THAT JOB.

SO I ASK YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THIS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COME ON UP. DON'T BE SHY. IF I CALLED YOUR NAME. COME ON DOWN. HELLO, I'M CHRISTINE FLANAGAN.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF IRONWOOD FOREST.

THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE MONUMENT.

WE ARE NOT AGAINST THE BUILDING OF DATA CENTERS, BUT WE ARE OPPOSED.

WE OPPOSE THE BUILDING OF. THE ABSENCE OF A FIRM SITE PLAN IS VERY, VERY CONCERNING.

IT WOULD BE BUILT IN A KNOWN WILDLIFE CORRIDOR LINKING THE PICACHO MOUNTAINS, THE SANTA CRUZ BOSQUE AND THE IRONWOOD FOREST NATIONAL MONUMENT.

THIS CORRIDOR IS CRITICAL TO THE HEALTH AND SURVIVAL OF THE LAST INDIGENOUS BIGHORN SHEEP POPULATION IN ARIZONA, AND ALSO TO MANY OTHER SPECIES. DESPITE 992 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, THE BUILDINGS WILL BRING LIGHT AND ACTIVITY AND NOISE THAT WILL AFFECT WILDLIFE BEHAVIOR AND DETER WILDLIFE MOVEMENT.

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YOUR CITIZENS NEED TO KNOW THAT DATA CENTERS WILL BE BUILT IN THE BEST PLACES ACCORDING TO THE STANDARDS THAT WILL PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT, WILDLIFE, YOUR CITIZENS, QUALITY OF LIFE, AND THEIR CHILDREN'S FUTURE.

IF THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED, 11 BUILDINGS WILL BE THE FIRST OF MANY MORE.

THE HISTORY IS OUR WITNESS. LAOS HAS ALREADY CHOSEN SHOWN THEIR LONG TERM INTENTIONS.

WE URGE YOU TO POSTPONE THIS DECISION OR DENY IT UNTIL THERE IS AN ACCEPTABLE PATH FORWARD.

BURMA LAND IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE, AND MANY MORE DATA CENTERS THAT WILL PROVIDE JOBS WILL BE IN THE OFFERING IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN MCCLURE, VICE CHAIRMAN AND SUPERVISORS.

MY NAME IS SAM MILLER. I AM THE VICE CHAIR, BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF DARK SKY INTERNATIONAL, SOUTHERN ARIZONA CHAPTER, AND ALSO A MEMBER OF PINAL COUNTY'S DARK SKY COMMITTEE AND COALITION, LED BY DISTRICT FIVES ADMINISTRATOR CONNIE VENDRELL. MY COMMENTS ARE RELATED TO A LETTER THAT I SENT YOU OR WE SENT YOU AND COUNTY MANAGER LOU DATED AUGUST 10TH. IT IS NOT WITHIN OUR CHARTER DARK SKY INTERNATIONAL TO RECOMMEND FOR OR AGAINST A DATA CENTER. HOWEVER, IT IS WITHIN OUR CHARTER AND AN OBVIOUS RESPONSIBILITY TO COMMENT ON THE DATA CENTERS OUTDOOR LIGHTING SHOULD THEY BE APPROVED THROUGHOUT OUR NATION AND ALSO HERE IN ARIZONA AND MESA IS A PRIME EXAMPLE.

IN SOME CASES, DATA CENTERS HAVE CHANGED THEIR LIGHTING FOLLOWING THE PERMITTING PROCESS AFTER BUILD, AND WHEN CHALLENGED, HAVE OVERCOME REGULATORS WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THEIR OUTDOOR LIGHTING COMPLIANCE.

OUR COLLEAGUES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY HAVE REPORTED SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF THAT HAPPENING.

WHEN THEY BELIEVE, OR WHY THEY BELIEVE, IT IS NECESSARY TO HAVE EXTERNAL LIGHTING NEAR LAS VEGAS.

LUMINOSITY IS NOT UNDERSTANDABLE, NOR IS IT JUSTIFIABLE.

THEREFORE, SHOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO BUILD HERE IN PINAL COUNTY, WE STRONGLY ADVISE THAT YOU, THE BOARD AND COUNTY MANAGER OR COUNTY MANAGER LOSE STAFF, VALIDATE THE FACILITY'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE COUNTY'S EXISTING LIGHT ORDINANCE AND NOT ENTERTAIN AN APPEAL FOR EXEMPT EXEMPTION.

PINAL COUNTY RESIDENTS VALUE THEIR APPRECIATION OF THE NIGHT SKY, AND OBNOXIOUS LIGHTING NOT ONLY LIMITS THE AWE OF THE NIGHT SKY, BUT ALSO ADVERSELY AFFECTS THE HEALTH OF ALL LIVING THINGS WILDLIFE AND WE HUMANS INCLUDED.

WE ASK STRONGLY THAT, SHOULD THEY BE APPROVED, THAT YOU HOLD THEM TO THE LINE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. GO AHEAD. SEAN LOPEZ.

OKAY. THANK YOU. BOARD FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS SEAN LOPEZ.

I WORK FOR THE LABORERS INTERNATIONAL UNION OF NORTH AMERICA.

I REPRESENT ABOUT 2000 UNION MEMBERS IN ARIZONA, MANY IN PINAL COUNTY.

ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I PERSONALLY LIVE BETWEEN TWO DATA CENTERS LESS THAN TWO MILES AWAY FROM MY HOUSE.

I DON'T HEAR THEM. THE REVENUE THAT THEY HAVE PUT BACK INTO MY COMMUNITY HAS UPDATED THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUILT PARKS, TWO SCHOOLS, POLICE AND FIRE STATIONS, AND A NEW GROCERY STORE.

DUE TO ALL THE JOBS IT BROUGHT TO THE AREA AND MY PROPERTY VALUE IS ONLY GOING UP IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS IMPROVING.

A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE I USE AI FOR THIS INFORMATION.

A GOLF COURSE USES 800 TO 1200 ACRE FEET OF WATER PER YEAR.

1200 HOMES USE APPROXIMATELY 600 ACRE FEET OF WATER, WHICH WOULD BE EQUAL TO THIS PROJECT.

PINAL COUNTY HAS A PLAN OF 50,000 TO 75,000 NEW HOMES IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WHICH EQUALS 18,000 TO 75,000 ACRE FEET OF WATER.

THIS IS NOT A WATER ISSUE. THIS IS AN IDEOLOGY AND A NOT IN MY BACKYARD ISSUE.

THE DEVELOPER IS DOING THEIR BEST TO CHOOSE A LOCATION FAR AWAY FROM RESIDENTS.

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FACEBOOK'S. STOP USING AMAZON, STOP USING THE INTERNET AND THROW AWAY YOUR SMARTPHONES.

IF THEY DON'T, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR SUPPORTING DATA CENTERS. LET'S BE REAL.

SOMETHING WILL EVENTUALLY BE BUILT HERE IF WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE WATER.

LET'S CHOOSE A PROJECT LIKE THIS THAT WILL USE FAR LESS WATER THAN A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT OR A GOLF COURSE.

YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT MEANS 13,000 FAMILIES WILL HAVE MEDICAL INSURANCE, PENSIONS, THE OPPORTUNITIES TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES AND BE HOME EVERY NIGHT WITHOUT HAVING TO COMMUTE OUT OF PENILE COUNTY FOR WORK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M JUST GOING TO SO PERLA MARTINEZ, KAREN CONNER, MARK.

CARDENAS CRAIG. PATRICK. DEAN. KELLY. THIS IS KIND OF A LAST CALL HERE. AND THEN I'VE GOT JUST A COUPLE MORE AFTER THIS, BUT.

CHAIRMAN MCCLURE, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE PINAL COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, MARK CARDENAS WORK AT 197 WEST RANDOLPH ROAD, CASA GRANDE, ARIZONA. I'M A 90% SERVICE CONNECTED DISABLED IRAQ WAR VETERAN.

I CURRENTLY HAVE AN ERECTOR SET HOLDING UP MY SPINE FREE COURTESY OF THE VA, AND ACTUALLY USED TO BE TWO INCHES SHORTER, TWO INCHES TALLER BEFORE THAT HAPPENED. WHEN I LEFT THE ARMY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I MISSED MOST WAS THE CAMARADERIE, THE FEELING THAT THE PEOPLE STANDING NEXT TO YOU HAD YOUR BACK, THAT YOU WERE PART OF SOMETHING BIGGER THAN YOURSELF.

WHEN I LEFT, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO FIND THAT AGAIN, THE SKILLED TRADES.

I FOUND AMONGST THE ELECTRICIANS, LABORERS, OPERATORS, CARPENTERS, AND OTHER MEN AND WOMEN WHO BUILD ARIZONA, AND A LOT OF THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT DO THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM TODAY IN THE OVERFLOW ROOMS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE SUPPORTING DATA CENTER FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS IN THIS ROOM.

THIS PROJECT ISN'T AN ABSTRACT DISCUSSION ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ITS WORK, ITS YEARS OF GOOD PAYING CONSTRUCTION JOBS RIGHT HERE IN PINAL COUNTY.

IT'S A MORTGAGE PAYMENT. IT'S GROCERIES ON THE TABLE.

IT'S PUTTING THEIR CHILDREN THROUGH COLLEGE. IT'S BUILDING THEIR RETIREMENT. AND FOR THE APPRENTICES JUST STARTING THEIR CAREER, IT'S THE PROJECT THAT TEACHES THEM A TRADE THAT WILL FEED THE FAMILIES THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.

THE MEN AND WOMEN SITTING BEHIND ME IN THE OVERFLOW ROOMS AND THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES AREN'T ASKING THIS BOARD TO GIVE THEM ANYTHING.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO EARN IT.

GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A PROJECT THAT WILL HELP FEED AND HOUSE THEIR FAMILIES TODAY, AND CREATE CAREERS AND PROSPERITY THAT CAN FEED AND HOUSE THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN TOMORROW.

THAT'S THE GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.

I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO SUPPORT LOZA AND LET PINAL COUNTY WORKERS BUILD PINAL COUNTY'S FUTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO I'VE GOT TWO CARDS LEFT, SO.

BOGDAN TATARICA AND VLADISLAV. I KNOW YOU'RE OUT THERE SOMEPLACE.

I'LL CALL. LAST CALL FOR PERLA. MARTINEZ. THERON.

CONNOR. CRAIG. PATRICK. DEAN. KELLY. MR. CHAIR, MAYBE MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME SEATS IN HERE. IF ANYBODY'S IN THE OVERFLOW ROOM, YOU COULD PROBABLY FIND A SEAT.

NOW WHAT HE JUST SAID. JUDITH TARDIF, THOMAS SILVA, ROBERT DE LA CRUZ.

MICHELLE. TARTER. YEAH. TART. TART. TARTER. ALEXANDRA.

MOEN. LAYTON. DAVIS. LYNETTE. CANARINI. CARLA.

CANARINI. IRENE. KANAKIS. VINCENT. SIEBERT. JEFFREY.

FITZWATER. CASTLE. STRAHAN. BRANOVER. LAST CALL.

AND BOGDAN TURKA AND VLADISLAV DUMAN. ARE YOU HERE? YOU'RE HERE. IF YOU'RE HERE, COME ON DOWN. DON'T.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS VLADISLAV DUMAN. I LIVE IN THE FOREST AREA, AND I'M JUST GOING TO START OFF BY SAYING WITH HOW MANY DATA CENTERS IN THE UNITED STATES, THERE'S 5231. NO, 5427. THAT IS MORE THAN THE OTHER TOP NINE BEHIND US COMBINED, AND WILL STILL HAVE THE REST 2000 DATA CENTERS AFTERWARDS.

WE STILL HAVE WE STILL LEAD THEM BY 62%. I WILL ALSO MENTION THAT WITH ALL THESE DATA CENTERS.

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THEY WILL BASICALLY, WITH AI BASICALLY JUST REMOVE ALL OF OUR ENTRY LEVEL JOBS AND WE WILL BASICALLY JUST LIVE IN AN.

HOW DO HUXLEY BRAVE NEW WORLD? GRANTED, I WILL ALSO MENTION THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DATA CENTER PROMISES. OH, WE'RE GOING TO USE LESS ELECTRICITY.

OH, WE'RE GOING TO CONSERVE MORE. WELL, TELL THAT TO THE PEOPLE OF BOX ELDER COUNTY, UTAH.

WHEN THEIR DATA CENTER, THE STRATUS PROJECT, IS PROJECTED TO INCREASE THE STATE'S ELECTRICAL USAGE BY 2.25%, WE. TO SEE THAT THERE IS ESPECIALLY THE MOST AMOUNT OF.

THE MOST AMOUNT OF OPPOSITION FROM FOUR DATA CENTERS COMES FROM THE GEN Z BLOCK.

IN OTHER WORDS, PEOPLE FROM 16 TO 28, I BELIEVE, 73% OF WHICH ARE AGAINST.

THERE IS VERY MUCH SO A REASON THE MAJORITY OF THE SUPPORTERS FOR DATA CENTERS, WELL, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE AROUND HERE IN FIVE YEARS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO I DON'T EVEN YOU KIND OF GET IT. ADDITIONALLY, ADDITIONALLY, AS WE ARE IN PINAL COUNTY, WE HERE, I'M SURE WE SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND NOT SAM ALTMAN, WHO DOESN'T EVEN LIVE HERE OR ELON MUSK.

I THE LAST THINGS I'M GOING TO SAY IS THAT THERE WAS THE LIFE WITH AI.

THERE'S KIDS, THERE'S ACTUALLY PEOPLE THAT MADE YOUTUBE VIDEOS SHOWING THE CONSEQUENCE OF TOO MUCH AI OVER USES.

THERE'S TEACHERS AND PROFESSORS THAT ARE STARTING HAVE STARTED USING AI INSTEAD OF TEACHING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TEACHING.

THERE'S GEN ALPHA KIDS THAT CAN'T EVEN READ ON A PIECE OF PAPER, BUT THEY CAN DO SO PERFECTLY ON A PHONE.

I WILL END OFF BY SAYING THAT THERE WAS ONCE A MAN WHO WAS ARRESTED IN 1996 WHO SAID THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION AND ITS CONSEQUENCES HAVE BEEN A DISASTER FOR THE HUMAN RACE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BOGDAN TATARICA, ARE YOU HERE? I'M NOT SEEING ANY OF THE PEOPLE I CALL. ARE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT ARE THERE ANY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT FILLED IN A CARD THAT HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET? OKAY, GOOD. AND SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO YOU.

YOU DIDN'T FILL OUT A CARD, RIGHT? I DID, BUT I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK ORIGINALLY.

OH, OKAY. OKAY. YOU WENT MY OTHER PILE. OKAY.

AND SO FOR ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK THAT HASN'T FILLED OUT A CARD, YOU'RE WELCOME TO IN JUST A MINUTE.

BUT WE'RE JUST ABOUT WRAPPED UP, SO. YES. GO AHEAD.

PLEASE. THANKS. HI. I'M TESS. I'M OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF FLORENCE.

I TOO AM IN CONSTRUCTION, AND I'M ACTUALLY SHOCKED AND DISHEARTENED TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE FROM THE UNION PUSHING FOR THIS LONG TERM PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S A LITTLE SHORT SIGHTED. EVERYBODY WANTS A SHORT DRIVE, A SHORT DRIVE TO AND FROM WORK.

TRUST ME, I KNOW. I'VE COMMUTED MY ENTIRE LIFE FOR CONSTRUCTION.

I'M TEMPORARILY RETIRED ON IT RIGHT NOW, THANKFULLY.

BUT IT JUST BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT HERE THINKING THIS CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO LEAD US TO A LONG TERM THING.

THE AREA IS ALL WRONG FOR IT. YOU GUYS GOT TO LISTEN TO YOUR PEOPLE.

WE VOTED YOU IN. WE REALLY HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU AND I JUST APPRECIATE THE TIME TODAY.

THANKS, GUYS. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

SORRY. I JUST HAVE A FEW POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE.

ONE IS THE MAJOR COMP PLAN AMENDMENT WAS PASSED AS THE PRESENTER STATED STATED AT EACH LEVEL C, A, C, P, AND Z AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THEY WERE ONLY PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION.

1980 ACRES OF EMPLOYMENT, 480 ACRES OF GENERAL PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES, AND 983 ACRES OF PROPOSED OPEN SPACE.

NOTHING WAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE DATA CENTER, AND DATA CENTERS HADN'T COME HERE YET, SO I THINK IF THEY HAD GIVEN ANY BIT OF INDICATION THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT WE MIGHT HAVE EVEN STARTED DRAFTING A CODE AND MAYBE HAD IT READY.

A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS THAT I HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE, THE OREGON AMAZON GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION SETTLEMENT FOR $20.5 MILLION FOR NITRATES IN THE WATER. SURE. $20.5 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY TO HAVE TO PAY.

BUT WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY DO FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA FOR THE CONTAMINATION? AND HOW LONG WILL THAT TAKE? THE SAME THING WITH THE WYOMING'S MAJOR GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION.

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AND LASTLY, OUR 11 BUILDINGS ON 3300 ACRES. WHY REZONE ALL 33? IF THE PROJECT IS DOWNSIZED, AS IT WAS SHOWN IN THE MAY MEETING, IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY CONSIDERING APPROVAL THIS APPROVAL, PLEASE CONSIDER DOWNSIZING THE ZONING AREA. OTHERWISE, THEY'LL JUST BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH OTHER ENERGY PROJECTS SUCH AS SOLAR AND WIND.

JUST TO CONTINUE ADDING ON TO THAT 3300 ACRES.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? OH, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT I DID KAREN FROM SAN TAN VALLEY.

THANK YOU. LAST CHANCE. ANY OTHERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD BEFORE I CLOSE? PUBLIC HEARING? HEARING AND SEEING NONE. WE'LL CLOSE IT.

EXCUSE ME. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK ASKED THE BOARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE. BESIDES THE ONE OF. WHY DOES THE GUY WANT TO SPIT ON DOGS? I DON'T GET THAT ONE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, HOW LONG WOULD THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT TAKE? AND THEN A FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS, ARE THESE IS THIS.

ARE THERE NO BIDS ON THE CONTRACTS TO BID THESE THESE AUTOMATICALLY GO TO UNIONS? OKAY. SO CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATES ARE ANYWHERE FROM 5 TO 10 YEARS, ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE OF THE NEED TO DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE POWER.

OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT WAS THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, SO DO YOU NOT BID OUT TO DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS TO FOR THE JOBS, THEY AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE UNIONS.

WELL, WE FEEL THERE'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH JOBS WHERE, LIKE WE'VE TALKED TO THREE OF THE NATIONAL CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THAT HAVE BASES HERE IN PHOENIX, AND THEY ESSENTIALLY SAY THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH WORKERS FOR THEIR JUST THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO AND BRING IN UNION WORKERS AS WELL.

SO THEY, THEY FEEL LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH JOBS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING IN UNION WORKERS, INCLUDING THEIR OWN WORKERS AS WELL. SO IT'LL BE KIND OF A MIX.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR MILLER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I'LL AT SOME POINT THERE MIGHT BE COMMENTS MADE, BUT I'M GOING TO HOLD QUESTIONS.

I'M GOING TO HOLD MY COMMENTS FOR NOW. THANK YOU.

OKAY. IN THAT CASE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION, PLEASE.

MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM ONE, LA ROSA.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I.

I. I. CAN I EXPLAIN MY VOTE? ARE YOU GOING TO SPELL IT? SURE. GO AHEAD. OKAY. YOU KNOW, I'VE SAT DOWN AND I'VE LOOKED AT THIS A LOT.

I'VE GOT YOU KNOW, I INHERITED A SITUATION WHEN I FIRST CAME INTO OFFICE.

IN MY PARTICULAR AREA, AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT WE'VE GOT A NO VOTE ON THIS ONE.

HOWEVER, I THINK THE MESSAGE OUGHT TO BE THAT WE DO NEED TO.

BE STILL OPEN. WE NEED TO CREATE AN ECOSYSTEM HERE THAT WE BRING IN THESE TYPE OF INDUSTRIES, THIS TYPE OF STUFF THAT BRING THAT WE BRING IT HERE INTO THIS COUNTY, AND THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND LOOKED AT AND EVALUATED.

BUT I THINK THAT THIS. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION ON THIS.

AND SO I VOTE NO AS WELL. THANK YOU. AND THAT WAS SUPERVISOR MILLER.

DID HE VOTE? SUPERVISOR MILLER, DID YOU HAVE A SAY IN THIS? DID YOU VOTE? I HAVE NOT VOTED. AND I'M I'M GOING TO VOTE NAY ON THIS MOTION. I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE HAVE WE'RE CUTTING INTO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

INDIVIDUALS HAVE A RIGHT TO USE THEIR PROPERTY THE WAY THEY WANT.

AND I REALLY THINK THAT THERE'S THERE'S, THIS IS JUST REALLY PART OF THE PART OF WHAT OUR SOCIETY REALLY NEEDS TO LOOK AT GOING FORWARD.

YOU HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAVE AN EFFECT.

I, I ACTUALLY, IT KIND OF APPALLS ME THAT PEOPLE STAND AROUND HOLDING THEIR CELL PHONES NEXT TO THEIR EARS WHEN WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF DOCTORS THAT SAY,

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IS THIS THE OUR WHOLE SYSTEM? AND I REALLY, TRULY BELIEVE THAT ALL THE NEGATIVITY ON THESE DATA CENTERS HAS BEEN FROM OUR ADVERSARY ADVERSARIES AROUND THE WORLD.

WE NEED THEM. IT'S NATIONAL DEFENSE. AND I WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED IT ON A, ON A YES VOTE FOR SUPPORTING THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT'S FIVE, SIX, MAYBE TEN YEARS AWAY.

ACTUALLY, WHAT ENDS UP BEING BUILT THERE? THIS IS A ZONING CASE, IN MY OPINION.

WHAT FINALLY ENDS UP THERE IS WHO KNOWS? I MEAN, IT'S THIS THE ECONOMY AND THE TECHNOLOGY IS MOVING SO FAST. FRANKLY TO SEE A DATA CENTER BUILT THERE, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO BE A FACTORY OR SOMETHING OF THAT EFFECT.

I DON'T THINK I3 ZONING IS A BAD THING IN THIS LOCATION.

SO MY, MY VOTE IS NO TO THE, TO THE MOTION. THANK YOU.

SO THAT'S FIVE NO'S, CORRECT? CORRECT MISS KENNEDY.

4 TO 1. NO, NO IT'S FOUR ONE. I VOTED FOUR ONE.

YES IT'S FOUR ONE. SO WE HAVE FOUR YESES FOR DENIAL.

OKAY. AND ONE AGAINST ONE. OPPOSED. OKAY. JUST.

OKAY. SO MOTION MOTION TO DENY IS APPROVED. I MEAN, MOTION TO APPROVE IS DENIED.

HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SAY THAT. OKAY. I NEED A MOTION FOR ITEM TWO, PLEASE, MR. CHAIR. ON ITEM TWO. I ALSO WILL. CHAIRMAN. HI.

HI THERE. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE THE MOTION WAS TO DENY ITEM ONE WAS TO DENY FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR OF DENYING AND ONE AGAINST IT. YES. YES. THAT'S CORRECT. TO CLARIFY THE RECORD.

RIGHT. I KNOW IT TOOK A WHILE TO GET THERE, BUT YES, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM TWO ALSO.

LAROSA. I'LL SECOND THAT AS WELL. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I, I, I OPPOSED NAY, FOR ONE MOTION TO DENY IS. CHAIRMAN, I DID NOT HEAR ALL VOTES.

SO JUST FOR THE CONFIRMING THAT THAT SILENCE DOES CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE PROVEN FOR THE DENIAL.

FOR ONE. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. WHAT I HEARD. YES.

THANK YOU. SO MOTION TO DENY IS WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE.

SO OFF WE GO. NO, NO, PLEASE DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T GO THERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. WITH THAT, WE WILL LET WE'LL LET THE ROOM CLEAR FOR A MINUTE.

AND THEN WE'RE MOVING TO ITEM THREE ELECTIONS.

MISS LEWIS, I KNOW YOU'RE AROUND SOMEWHERE. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY? TO DEFINITELY BE FINISHING. YOU GET ANOTHER 20 MINUTES? YEAH, I'LL GET AN HOUR. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. YEAH.

YOU'RE SAYING I'LL DO IT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE STUTTERY. I WANT TO BE. YEAH.

HE ACTUALLY SAID IT IN THE REVERSE. SO. OKAY.

THANK YOU GUYS, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SEE, I DON'T THINK WE EXPLAINED OURSELVES WELL.

YES.

[04:10:05]

JUST TO KEEP THE NOISE DOWN. CAN WE CLEAR A ROOM OR WHAT? IT ONLY TOOK, WHAT, FOUR HOURS, YOU KNOW? OKAY, 3.5 HOURS.

ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. ITEM ITEM NUMBER THREE.

[3. Updates related to the Elections Department and County Recorder, focusing on recent activities, upcoming initiatives, and essential information. (Dana Lewis)]

COUNTY RECORDER. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN MCCLURE, VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

DANA LEWIS, THE PINAL COUNTY RECORDER. THIS PRESENTATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD.

THE FOLLOWING ARE IMPORTANT DATES THAT ALL VOTERS AND STAKEHOLDERS SHOULD BE AWARE OF, AND TO LET OUR COMMUNITIES KNOW THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH DEADLINES ESTABLISHED BY LAW. AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE VISUAL AID BALLOT PROOFS WERE SENT OUT THIS WEEK AND RESPONSES ARE ALREADY BEING RECEIVED.

THE STAKEHOLDERS, WHICH ARE CANDIDATES PARTY CHAIRS, HAVE UNTIL THE 31ST TO GET US.

IF THERE IS ANY CHANGES OR ERRORS THAT THEY SEE, CANDIDATE WRITING SUBMISSIONS MUST BE RECEIVED BY SEPTEMBER 4TH FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION.

UOCAVA IS OUR E -45 AND THAT IS SEPTEMBER 19TH.

AS YOU SEE UP HERE, WE HAVE OUR INTERNAL IN OUR INTERNAL LOGIC AND ACCURACY TEST, ALONG WITH THE ARIZONA SECRETARY OF STATE'S LOGIC AND ACCURACY TESTING.

THE VOTER REGISTRATION DEADLINE IS ALWAYS E -25 FROM THE ELECTION.

I WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE, IF YOU HAVE MOVED OR CHANGED YOUR NAMES, WE REQUEST THAT YOU PLEASE UPDATE YOUR VOTER REGISTRATION INFORMATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THE FIRST DAY TO VOTE EARLY IN PERSON OR BALLOTS BEING MAILED OUT IS E -27.

EARLY BALLOT REQUESTS STARTED AUGUST 2ND AND THEY END OCTOBER 23RD.

HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HOME AND YOU ARE CURRENTLY ON THE ACTIVE EARLY VOTING LIST, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT YOU PLEASE CONTACT US AT (520) 509-3555 SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE CAN SEND YOUR EARLY BALLOT TO WHEREVER YOU'RE GOING TO BE.

I WOULD BE REMISS IN NOT POINTING OUT A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, PRESIDENT TRUMP ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER DIRECTING THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE TO ESTABLISH NEW STANDARDS FOR BALLOTS SENT THROUGH THE MAIL AND FEDERAL ELECTIONS. THOSE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF ONGOING LITIGATION.

AND YESTERDAY A FEDERAL JUDGE PUT OUT A DECISION.

AND THEN JUST A FEW HOURS AGO, ANOTHER FEDERAL JUDGE LIFTED THE INJUNCTION THAT HAD PREVENTED THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE FROM MOVING FORWARD WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION. THE PINAL COUNTY RECORDER'S OFFICE IS REVIEWING THE FINAL RULE, INCLUDING NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR BALLOT ENVELOPES, TRACKING AND REPORTING, AND IS MONITORING GUIDANCE FROM THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE AND THE ARIZONA SECRETARY OF STATE FOR PINAL COUNTY VOTERS.

THE MESSAGE IS SIMPLE THERE IS NOTHING YOU NEED TO DO DIFFERENTLY AT THIS TIME.

WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY MAJOR CHANGES FOR THE NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION, BUT WE ARE CONTINUING PREPARATIONS FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION AND WILL COMMUNICATE CLEARLY IF ANY CHANGES AFFECT HOW VOTERS RECEIVE OR RETURN THEIR EARLY BALLOTS.

OUR FOCUS AND RESPONSIBILITY REMAINS THE SAME.

FOLLOW THE LAW. PROTECT EVERY ELIGIBLE VOTERS ABILITY TO CAST A BALLOT AND ADMINISTER ELECTIONS ACCURATELY AND TRANSPARENTLY.

IF YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS AND OTHER CURRENT EVENTS GOING ON IN THE ELECTIONS WORLD IN PINAL COUNTY, PLEASE ATTEND THIS FRIDAY'S 9 A.M. VOTER EDUCATION WORKING GROUP.

NOVEMBER 3RD IS ELECTION DAY, AND I IMPLORE YOU, PLEASE HAVE A PLAN TO VOTE.

DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS LEWIS FROM THE BOARD? THAT WASN'T A QUESTION, SUPERVISOR. THAT WAS A COMMENT.

YES. SHE'S VERY GOOD AT HER JOB. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS DISCUSSION, APPROVAL, DISAPPROVAL OF THE PURCHASING DIVISION REPORT.

[4. Discussion/approval/disapproval of Purchasing Division Report - August 26, 2026, and authorizing the Chairman to execute all necessary documents. (Traci Gorman/Angeline Woods)]

I RAN ACROSS THE THE PARKING LOT TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE PAYING ATTENTION.

THANK YOU. I WAS I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF PRESENTING TODAY'S PURCHASING DIVISION REPORT FOR AUGUST 26TH, 2026. AND THE REPORT, THE BOARD IS REQUESTED TO APPROVE ONE CONTRACT AWARD FOR RFP 266431 FOR CLINIC STAFFING SERVICES. EXCUSE ME.

I'M STILL OUT OF BREATH. THE BOARD IS REQUESTED TO APPROVE FIVE CONTRACT AMENDMENTS FOR SOQ241928.

[04:15:08]

RFP 254430. C AND C MANAGED SERVICES FOR ORACLE.

JD EDWARDS SUPPORT ENTERPRISE ONE ERP SYSTEM RFP 260430 FOR PRE-PETITION SCREENINGS.

SOC 260730. THANK YOU. KELSEY. JOB ORDER CONTRACT FOR GENERAL CONSTRUCTION AND FACILITY MAINTENANCE SERVICES. WE'RE REQUESTING THE BOARD TO APPROVE THREE AMENDMENTS TO A COMPETITION AND PRACTICAL OVER $100,000 PER OUR PROCUREMENT CODE, SECTION PC1-502.

THERE IS ONE COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT WE WOULD LIKE TO NOTIFY YOU OF, AS IT IS BETWEEN 100,000 AND 250,000.

AND LASTLY, WE'RE SEEKING APPROVAL OF FIVE COOPERATIVE PURCHASES OVER THE AMOUNT OF $250,000.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THERE YOU GO. SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS WOODS? HEARING, SEEING NONE. MADE A MOTION, PLEASE. MR. CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. SORRY. NO, NO, YOU GO AHEAD, MR. CHAIR. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM FOR THE.

PURCHASING DIVISION. SORRY. I'LL SECOND IT. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I I I I I I.

THOSE OPPOSED HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS WOODS.

APPRECIATE IT. ITEM NUMBER FIVE CONSENT ITEMS A THROUGH B H.

[5. CONSENT ITEMS]

UNLESS A BOARD MEMBER OR COUNTY MANAGER OBJECTS AT THE TIME THE AGENDA ITEM IS CALLED.

PRESENTLY I HAVE SUPERVISOR. YOU'RE NOT HERE, SO I'M PULLING ITEM F AND WE HAVE ITEM I BY MR. LU AND SUPERVISOR. IT SAYS ON HERE ITEM D, BUT YOU'RE NOT HERE, SO YOU DON'T CARE TO PULL IT AT THIS TIME? NO. OKAY. SO WE HAVE ITEMS. OKAY. THANK YOU. HOLD.

SO WE HAVE ITEMS A THROUGH B, H MINUS F, AND I.

I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIR. MR. LARSON, HAVE A POINT OF ORDER.

QUESTION. ARE YOU IS THERE ANY BENEFIT FOR PUBLIC INPUT? NO. NO. SO BOARD ANY OTHERS THAT YOU WANT TO PULL? GOOD HEARING. SEEING NONE. COUNTY MANAGER. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN, JUST THE ONE THAT YOU MENTIONED ALREADY.

I THINK ITEM I ITEM I VERY WELL, THANK YOU. MAY I GET IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, MAY I GET A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS A THROUGH.

BHBH MINUS F AND I. THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. I HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND. HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I I, I OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ITEM F IS. DISCUSSION.

[5.F. Discussion/approval/disapproval to direct the Pinal County Treasurer to issue a refund to Church of Uncommon Thought in prorated amounts for the years of 2022 and 2023, pursuant to the period of ownership of parcel 10007011C4, and in accordance with A.R.S. 42-11109. (Kelli Munroe/John Ellinwood/Natasha Kennedy)]

IT SAYS REFUND TO THE CHURCH OF UNCOMMON THOUGHT.

THAT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO A TO A AN ADJUSTMENT AS IT IS NOT A FULL REFUND IS AN ADJUSTMENT FOR TAXES.

SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. MAY I GET A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM F WITH THE CHANGING OF THE WORD ADJUSTMENTS FROM REFUND TO REFUND TO ADJUSTMENT.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I I I, I OPPOSED.

HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ITEM I SUPERVISOR ARE NOT YOU MANAGER LOU ITEM I.

[5.I. Discussion/approval/disapproval to grant a conflict waiver requested by Snell and Wilmer to permit individuals from the firm to represent Westside Investment Partners in the negotiation of a development agreement with Pinal County. None of the current attorneys from Snell & Wilmer who are providing representation to the Board of Supervisors on various conflict or election matters will be involved in or have a role in the negotiation of a possible development agreement for Westside Investment Partners with Pinal County. (Leo Lew)]

THAT'S IT. WE HAVE TO. SO WE HAVE WE HAVE A ACTION HERE TO WITHDRAW.

[04:20:05]

YES. NO, NO. OH, AND I DID SOMETHING WRONG. NO, CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT TO FURTHER CONFIRM THAT VICE CHAIRMAN SIR DID NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THIS ITEM. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I'M SORRY, DID I MISS YOU? THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE.

YEAH YEAH YEAH. THERE WAS THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THIS AND I WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT.

THE COUNTY WORKS WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES AND A LOT OF THEM DONATE TO A LOT OF CHARITIES AND EVENTS AROUND THE COUNTY. AND IF WE DENIED EVERY ONE OF THEM BECAUSE OF THAT, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANYBODY LEFT BECAUSE JUST ABOUT ANYBODY THAT'S INVOLVED DOES. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD VOTE NO ON THIS, BUT I GUESS IT'S A MOOT POINT NOW SINCE IT'S BEEN REMOVED. OKAY. BUT WELL, IT HASN'T YET, BUT SINCE IT WILL PROBABLY BE REMOVED, SO.

OKAY, I NEED TO I NEED TO GET A MOTION ON ITEM I PLEASE.

IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REMOVE ITEM I AS PRESENTED.

WITHDRAW. WITHDRAW. THANK YOU. AS PRESENTED. I HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I I I, I OPPOSED.

HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[6. Meeting of the Pinal County Flood Control District Board of Directors. (Joe Ortiz)]

AND. THIS IS CONSISTS OF ITEM ONE CONSENT ITEMS A AND B, ALL ITEMS INDICATED ALPHABETICALLY BELOW WILL BE HANDLED BY A SINGLE VOTE AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, UNLESS A BOARD MEMBER OR COUNTY MANAGER OBJECTS AT THE TIME THE AGENDA ITEM IS CALLED.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BY THE BOARD OR DOES ANYONE CARE TO PULL ANYTHING? HEARING NONE. COUNTY MANAGER. VERY WELL. NO QUESTIONS, NO PULLS.

MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE. MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS A AND B AS PRESENTED.

I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I I I I OPPOSED.

HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. I'LL NOW ADJOURN THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING AND CONVENE THE PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES DISTRICT BOARD OF

[7. Meeting of the Pinal County Public Health Services District Board of Directors. (Merissa Mendoza/MaryEllen Sheppard)]

ALL ITEMS INDICATED ALPHABETICALLY BELOW WILL BE HANDLED BY A SINGLE VOTE AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UNLESS A BOARD MEMBER OR COUNTY MANAGER OBJECTS AT THE TIME THE AGENDA ITEM IS CALLED.

DOES THE BOARD CARE TO PULL ANY ITEMS HERE? EXCUSE ME.

HEARING NONE. COUNTY MANAGER. OKAY, IN THAT CASE, MAY I GET A MOTION, PLEASE, MR. CHAIR? MAKE A MOTION FOR ITEM SEVEN FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH TO APPROVE.

I'M SORRY. A AND B, WHAT ARE YOU READING? OKAY.

OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I, I OPPOSED.

OH, THERE WE GO. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OPPOSED. HEARING NONE.

MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. I WILL NOW ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING AND RECONVENE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING.

[8. Call to the Public— A "call to the public" is the time period for members of the public to address the Board of Supervisors to provide public input relating to subject matter within the Board of Supervisors authority or jurisdiction. Those wishing to address the Board of Supervisors need not request permission in advance. Action taken as a result of public comment will be limited to directing staff to study the matter or rescheduling it for further consideration and decision at a later date.]

THOSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS NEED NOT REQUEST PERMISSION IN ADVANCE.

ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE LIMITED TO DIRECTING STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER OR RESCHEDULING FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND DECISION AT A LATER DATE.

DO WE HAVE. YES I DO. OH. OH, LOOK, IT'S ONLY JUST A FEW CARDS.

HOW NICE. OKAY. I ONE TWO, THREE. SO I GOT THREE CARDS HERE.

THE FIRST ONE IS THOMAS SILVA. ARE YOU HERE? THERE YOU ARE, SIR.

BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTES EARLIER TODAY FOR LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC.

[04:25:02]

I'M SPECIFICALLY HERE TO DISCUSS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THERE'S A, AN AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU PASSED WHICH IT'S NOT DEFINED IN THE, IN THE NOTES ON THIS MEETING.

IT SAYS REVISIONS WILL BE APPROVED. I BELIEVE THOSE REVISIONS ARE TO TAKE THE ARRESTING ATTORNEY AWAY FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SO THAT HIS INVESTIGATORS CAN'T ARREST INDIVIDUALS. IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED IF YOU WOULD GIVE THE FULL DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THIS IS THAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR AND OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE I THINK THE ATTORNEY'S BRAD MILLER HAS DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB.

I SUPPORTED HIM FOR HIS ELECTION. I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE THINGS THAT HE'S DONE FOR OUR COUNTY.

AND I'D APPRECIATE IF YOU IF YOU WOULD, WOULD ALLOW HIM TO CONTINUE HAVING THAT ARRESTING AUTHORITY SO THAT HE COULD KEEP OUR COUNTY SAFE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OH. I'M SORRY. JESS.

I I'M SORRY I CAN'T READ THE. I CAN'T READ THE WRITING.

JIM. JIM. JIM. CHECK. NAME S. I DON'T UNDER LIVES ON DIVERSION DAM ROAD.

ARE YOU HERE? I'M SORRY, I CAN'T READ THE WRITING ON THIS ONE.

OKAY NEXT IS KATHY S CHAN.

ARE YOU HERE? OKAY, MR. LARSON, YOU'RE UP. COME ON DOWN.

YEAH, I PUT HER IT IN A CARD. MAYBE YOU DIDN'T GET IT.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT I WANTED TO REQUEST THAT CONSENT ITEM FIVE BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND VOTE.

I THINK IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE THAT IT WAS CHAIRMAN MCCLURE.

I'M SORRY. OH, THAT WAS REALLY LOUD. I'M SORRY.

CALL TO THE PUBLIC IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TO BE DISCUSSED.

OKAY, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS IT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, THEN I'LL KEEP MY REMARKS, GENERAL.

I THINK THE DISPUTE BETWEEN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON THE APPROPRIATE ROLE AND FUNCTION OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND STAFFING HAS BEEN VERY PUBLIC. IT IS UNCONSCIONABLE TO BURY A TOPIC OF THAT KIND AMONG ROUTINE CONSENT ITEMS WITHOUT OPEN PUBLIC SCRUTINY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHERS? YES.

OKAY, HERE WE GO. HELLO AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR FOR YOUR VOTE EARLIER.

MY NAME IS EMPHYSEMATOUS AGAIN AND I'M FROM COOLIDGE.

I'VE BEEN HERE 17 YEARS. I RUN A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION THAT EXPECTS TO HANDLE CLOSE TO $1 MILLION IN DONATED GOODS AND PROPERTY.

THAT MEANS PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT AN ABSTRACT ISSUE TO ME.

IT'S VERY REAL. WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS, DONORS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, RECIPIENTS COMING TO US.

SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE MAY ALREADY BE VULNERABLE.

WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE GREED OF THOSE WHO HAVE GUNS AND DEMAND WHAT IS NOT FOR THEM TO HAVE.

ARIZONA IS A STATE WHERE LAWFUL FIREARM POSSESSION IS COMMON.

AT THE SAME TIME, OUR COMMUNITY UNFORTUNATELY HAS FACED ARMED CRIMINALS, GANGS, THEFT, TRAFFICKING, AND VIOLENT CRIME. OUR COMMUNITIES ALSO HAVE INCREASED IN SIZE.

THUS, AN INCREASE IN EFFECTIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS MORE IMPORTANT, NOT LESS.

SO IF ITEM H REMOVES OR RESTRICTS ARREST AUTHORITY FROM SWORN ARIZONA PEACE OFFICERS WORKING AS INVESTIGATORS FOR THE PINAL COUNTY ATTORNEY.

I WANT THIS BOARD TO EXPLAIN HOW DOES TAKING LOAN LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY AWAY FROM TRAINED PEACE OFFICERS MAKE THE VOLUNTEERS, MY DONORS, MY RECIPIENTS, OR ANY OTHER RESIDENTS? I'M SORRY. THIS IS BACK TO THE SAME ITEM THAT WE WERE JUST TOLD.

THIS IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO HAVE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE THE BOARD? MY NAME IS SHIMON. I'M FROM SAN MANUEL. I DROVE HERE OVER AN HOUR TO GET HERE.

I'M NOT GOING TO ENGAGE IN THE TYPICAL BUTT KISSING AMENITIES, BECAUSE I'M REALLY UNSATISFIED WITH THE WAY YOU GUYS ARE DOING YOUR JOB. I THANK YOU FOR HAVING SOME COMMON SENSE AND FINALLY DENYING THAT DATA CENTER AND THE REZONING.

BUT THE FACT THAT IT TOOK YOU OVER A MONTH, IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT OVER 100, NEARLY 200 PEOPLE SHOWED UP THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND MADE THEIR DISPLEASURE

[04:30:06]

I'M TIRED OF FEELING LIKE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE CORPORATE DOLLARS IN MY POCKET, THAT I'M NOT BEING HEARD.

I'M TIRED OF MY MIC GETTING CUT OFF. I'M TIRED OF BEING HUNG UP ON.

I'M TIRED OF IT ALL. I'M TIRED OF YOU NOT LETTING US HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THAT'S HOW OAK FLAT GOT SWAPPED AWAY TO THESE CRIMINALS.

AT RESOLUTION COPPER IS BECAUSE BARRY MCCAIN SLIPPED THE TRANSFER ONTO A LAST MINUTE RIDER OF THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT, WHICH IS NEVER DISCUSSED AND ALWAYS JUST SIGNED BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

DOESN'T MEAN WE APPROVE OF IT. WE NEED MORE TRANSPARENCY OUT OF THIS GOVERNMENT.

I DON'T LIKE IT THE WAY THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING DOWN, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I DO VERY MUCH APPROVE OF THE WAY YOU WERE BEHAVING AT THE LAST MEETING. PROTECTING OUR RIGHTS AGAINST THE SURVEILLANCE STATE.

AND I EXPECT ALL OF YOU GUYS TO LISTEN TO US.

WE ARE THE ONES THAT PAY YOUR SALARY. GREAT. AND FOR TRANSPARENCY, CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? ACTUALLY YOU DIDN'T. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS HAWES.

OKAY. ANY OTHERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE MR. RACK? I'M NOEL RACK FROM ELOY. I DON'T MIND WAITING TO SPEAK, SO LONG AS TODAY'S HEARING WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF AN INFORMED CITIZENRY BEING ALLOWED TO SPEAK THEIR MINDS. AT THE LAST MEETING, CHAIRMAN MCCLURE COMMUNICATED THAT MEETING WOULD BE THE LAST DIRECT OPPORTUNITY FOR CONSTITUENTS TO PULL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOR CONSENT, FOR DISCUSSION. AFTER RESEARCHING THE STATUTES AND CASE LAW BEHIND THAT DECISION, I'VE CONCLUDED THE PUBLIC IS NOT PROHIBITED FROM PULLING AGENDA ITEMS, BUT ALSO HAS NO STATED RIGHT TO DO SO.

THUS, IT WOULD FOLLOW. IT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD WHETHER OR NOT TO ALLOW THAT.

I'M NOW TOLD OPEN MEETING PROVISIONS ARE AT PLAY.

I ASK THE BOARD FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION, PARTICULARLY, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING THAT ALLOWED SO MANY CITIZENS TO SPEAK VERSUS THE CONSENT AGENDA? FURTHER, I ASK THE BOARD AND COUNTY RECORDER LEWIS TO MONITOR THREATS TO THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

THAT CANNOT BE DOWNPLAYED. THE RECENT SUPREME COURT DECISION REGARDING A NATIONAL LIST OF DOCUMENTED VOTERS, THE POSTAL SERVICE AND MAIL IN BALLOTS, WHICH IN THE END SHOULD BE REVERSED, PLAYS INTO TRUMP'S PLAN TO CREATE CHAOS AND CONFUSION AHEAD OF THE ELECTION.

HE KNOWS REPUBLICANS WILL PROBABLY LOSE THE HOUSE AND PERHAPS THE SENATE, AND WILL TRY WHATEVER HE CAN TO PRESERVE POWER, LOYALIST ATTORNEY GENERAL TODD BLANCHE SAID HE SEES NO REASON WHY AMERICANS SHOULD FEAR HAVING ICE OR THE NATIONAL GUARD AT POLLING PLACES, AS ILLEGAL AS THAT WOULD BE. HARMEET DHILLON, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR THE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, PLANS TO SEND OUT 1000 DOJ OBSERVERS TO POLLING PLACES, WHICH IS IN HER CAPACITY TO DO.

WILL THIS HAPPEN IN PINAL COUNTY? THAT'S DOUBTFUL, AS THEY'LL BE PURPOSEFULLY CONCENTRATED IN DEMOCRAT DOMINATED COUNTIES AND STATES AS REPORTED THAT THEY WERE IN ARIZONA'S PRIMARIES.

OBSERVERS WERE STATIONED IN APACHE, MARICOPA AND PIMA COUNTIES, BUT NOT REPUBLICAN COUNTIES.

ULTRA RIGHT MEDIA PERSONALITIES SUCH AS STEVE BANNON AND WAYNE ALLYN ROOT, ARE POSITING THAT THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE DIRECTOR, CLAYTON, IS WORKING ON SCENARIOS ENABLING TRUMP TO DECLARE A NATIONAL EMERGENCY TO, QUOTE, PROTECT ELECTIONS. FORMER WHITE HOUSE ATTORNEY TY COBB WARNS OF POSSIBLE VOTING MACHINE SEIZURES.

ICE AGENTS AT THE POLLS AS A VIRTUAL CERTAINTY, ALONG WITH A POSSIBLE NATIONAL GUARD PRESENCE.

PLEASE BE VIGILANT. LOOKING NO FURTHER THAN JANUARY 6TH AND THE BALLOT SEIZURES IN GEORGIA.

I PUT NOTHING PAST DONALD TRUMP. FINALLY, I APPRECIATE COUNTY ATTORNEY MILLER BEING HERE FOR MOST OF THE MEETING TODAY.

I IMAGINE THE MEETING WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MAKING MORE FACEBOOK VIDEOS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE THE BOARD FOR CALL THE PUBLIC? YES. COME ON UP. KAREN. OLIVER SAN. TAN VALLEY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN MCCLURE AND BOARD. I STAND CORRECTED.

THANK YOU FOR STOPPING ME EARLIER. NOW I WILL SPEAK ON THE ITEM THAT I SHOULD HAVE WAITED FOR.

I WANTED TO THANK SHERIFF TEEPLE AND THE ENTIRE BOARD FOR NOT RENEWING THE FLOCK CAMERA CONTRACT AND PROTECTING OUR FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

[04:35:05]

THAT WAS IT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE THE BOARD OF THE CALL? HEARING AND SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE CALL TO THE PUBLIC. DOES BOARD HAVE ANY? I DO, I WANT CLARIFICATION ON PROTOCOL. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU CANNOT NO LONGER COMMENT ON CONSENT ITEMS, BUT ONCE IT'S BEEN VOTED ON AND IT'S A COUNTY ISSUE, WOULDN'T THE PEOPLE BE ALLOWED TO THEN MAKE THEIR COMMENT? WHY? WHY WOULD WE ASK THEM TO STOP? BECAUSE THEY STILL WOULD HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR OPINION HEARD.

IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM THAT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH THE BOARD HAS NOT ALLOWED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO COMMENT ON CALL TO THE PUBLIC.

CALL TO THE PUBLIC IS DESIGNED FOR OTHER ISSUES THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BRING TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION.

THAT'S NOT ON AN AGENDA. NOT AFTER IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED.

I MEAN, THEY COULD COME NEXT WEEK AND THEY COULD COME IN IT AS WELL.

RIGHT. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE OF TWO MINUTES OR ONE.

THEY WANT TO COME NEXT WEEK. THEY CAN BUT THEY CAN'T DO IT ON THE SAME DAY AS WE'VE HAD THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.

OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT'S AN ODD SITUATION. I MEAN FOR US IT'S AN ODD SITUATION AS WELL.

COULD COULD YOU PLEASE POSIT AN OPINION UPON OR AT LEAST GIVE US LIKE A LETTER ON THAT OR SOMETHING THAT STATES WHAT THE STATUTE IS AND WHAT THE RULES AROUND IT ARE. YEAH.

BASICALLY, IT'S THE SAME STATUTE THAT I UNDERSTAND.

BUT COULD YOU PLEASE WRITE IT? AND WE HAVE IT TO GIVE OUT.

THANK. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? NO, I JUST I THINK YOU'RE IN THE ROCK CONCERT.

WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK STANDING IN FRONT OF THE AMP, YOU KNOW? SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE CONSENT ITEMS ARE JUST LIKE REGULAR ITEMS. THEY'RE JUST LUMPED TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN VOTE ON THEM TOGETHER.

OTHERWISE WE JUST TAKE EACH ONE OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND, AND THEN THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS THAT SAY PUBLIC HEARING.

THAT'S WHERE PUBLIC COMMENT CAN BE MADE AS WELL.

CORRECT. IS ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THOSE ITEMS BECAUSE THAT'S DICTATED BY STATUTE.

OKAY. YOU NEED TO YOU NEED TO TURN YOUR BASS UP AND YOUR AMP ON.

AND. SO FOR THE HEARING WE HAD TODAY. YEAH. THAT IS A HEARING THAT'S GOVERNED BY A PARTICULAR SET OF STATUTES THAT STATUTE PROVIDES FOR PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE PUBLIC INPUT.

THAT'S WHY THEY WERE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S HEARING.

BOARD DOESN'T HAVE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT THAT IN THE PAST WE'VE DONE THE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR THEY CAN PULL IT AND COMMENT ON IT, BUT ANY OF THESE ITEMS, IT DOESN'T PREVENT THEM FROM CALLING US AS SUPERVISORS AND SAY, HEY, WHAT DOES THIS SAY? OR EVEN CALLING STAFF AND SAY, HEY, WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT? AND THEN CALLING US AS SUPERVISORS, JUST LIKE THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE BOARD'S OFFICIAL BUSINESS.

YOU'RE CONDUCTING A BUSINESS TODAY, AND YOU HAVE A CERTAIN WAY OF CONDUCTING BUSINESS. IT'S NOT A TOWN FORUM.

AND, THE PUBLIC ALWAYS HAS THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS EACH OF YOUR SUPERVISORS INDIVIDUALLY AND TALK TO YOU, BUT THEY ONLY HAVE WHATEVER RIGHTS ARE GIVEN TO THEM BY THE STATUTE.

OPEN MEETING LAW GIVES THEM A RIGHT TO ATTEND AND TO OBSERVE.

IT DOES NOT GIVE THEM A RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE UNLESS THERE IS A STATUTE THAT REQUIRES FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. BUT YOU WILL WRITE THAT DOWN FOR US SO WE CAN GIVE THAT TO PEOPLE.

I WILL COME BACK. I KNOW, I KNOW. YEAH, I KNOW.

OKAY. I'M TRYING TO GET YOU OUT OF HERE. IT WAS IT WAS DURING WHEN HER MIC WAS FEEDING BACK.

I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY COULD NOT MAKE A COMMENT ON ANYTHING COUNTY RELATED RIGHT NOW.

OH, BUT THEY CAN. YES, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

OKAY, SO FOR CLARIFICATION, THE UNDER OPEN MEETING LAW.

THE PUBLIC ONLY HAS A RIGHT TO ATTEND AND OBSERVE THE OFFICIAL CONDUCT OF THEIR SUPERVISORS.

YOU AS A BOARD DON'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A CALL TO THE PUBLIC IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO HAVE ONE.

BUT WE DID. BUT IF YOU DO HAVE ONE, IT IS FOR THE MEMBERS TO COME UP TO ADDRESS YOU ON OTHER ITEMS THAT AREN'T SPECIFICALLY AGENDIZED ON THE AGENDA. SO IF THEY COME IN LATER, CALL TO THE PUBLIC AND TRY TO TALK TO YOU.

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SO NOW LATER ON, THEY'RE SUBVERTING THAT AND COMING TO TALK TO YOU AT CALL TO THE PUBLIC IN THE SAME MEETING.

IF THEY WANT TO COME TALK TO YOU SEPARATELY, THEY WANT TO EMAIL YOU.

THEY WANT TO COME BACK AT A DIFFERENT TIME. THEY CAN DO THAT, BUT THEY CANNOT DO IT IN THE SAME DAY THAT THIS WAS ON A CONSENT AGENDA.

AND THE DIFFERENCE AGAIN, IN WHAT HAPPENS WITH LIKE THE PLANNING AND ZONING HEARINGS, IS THAT THOSE PARTICULAR MATTERS ARE GOVERNED BY A CERTAIN SET OF STATUTES, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING, IF IT'S A PLAN AMENDMENT OR AN OVERLAY OR WHATEVER.

THERE ARE STATUTES THAT GOVERN THAT THAT, THAT DETERMINE HOW MUCH NOTICE TIME HAS TO BE MADE, WHAT THE PUBLICATION TIME. AND THERE ARE ALL DIFFERENT STATUTES.

AND IT ALSO GIVES THE PUBLIC A RIGHT TO COME IN AT A PUBLIC HEARING AND TO TESTIFY OR TO TURN IN DOCUMENTS TO TELL YOU THEIR POSITION MORE OR LESS ON IT. IT DOES NOT GIVE THEM A RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN A DEBATE WITH YOU.

IT DOES NOT GIVE YOU A RIGHT TO HAVE A COLLOQUY GOING ON.

IT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO COME IN AND PRESENT A POSITION.

SO NO ONE COULD HAVE SPOKEN ON THE PROJECT THAT CALL TO THE PUBLIC TODAY? NO. OKAY. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS DESIGNED FOR THAT.

I HAD NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS ROBERTS.

OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'VE CLOSED THE CALL TO THE PUBLIC.

NO MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. SUPERVISOR MILLER, YOU OUT THERE? I AM OUT HERE JUST CHECKING TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT FALLING ASLEEP.

WE'RE OUT HERE FOR A WHILE, SO. OKAY. I'VE FALLEN ASLEEP.

OKAY. I'M NOT FALLING ASLEEP. OKAY, THEN WE'RE MOVING ON TO.

WELL, I CAN'T TELL YOU. NO. SO ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND DISCUSSION APPROVAL.

[9. Public Hearing and discussion/approval/disapproval of Ordinance No. 2026-PZ-012-26, an Ordinance approving case PZ-012-26, Shaine Alleman, applicant, of Tiffany & Bosco P.A., on behalf of property owner, Edgewood Capital LLC, requesting approval of the rezoning of ± 4.87 acres from CB-1 Local Business Zone to C-3 General Commercial Zoning District to facilitate the development of an event venue facility, situated in Section 3, Township 3 South, Range 7 East of the Gila and Salt River Base and Meridian, Pinal County, Assessor Parcel Number: 509-04-003E, located along W. Hunt Highway, west of N. Ann’s Way, south of the Town of Queen Creek, unincorporated Pinal County. The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval (9-0) of case PZ-012-26 with thirteen (13) stipulations. Supervisor District #1. (Samuel Amaya/Dedrick Denton)]

AND THIS HAS A PRESENTER. MR. MAYA, HOW ARE YOU TODAY, SIR? HELLO CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. SO AS YOU STATED BEFORE, THIS IS FOR CASE PZ 012, THAT'S TWO SIX. THIS IS TITLED THE MONROE EVENT VENUE REZONE.

SO WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING, THEY ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A REZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 4.87 ACRES FROM LOCAL BUSINESS.

THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD SAY, WHICH IS ZONED DESIGNATED CB ONE TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS KNOWN BY C THREE TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE EVENT VENUE FACILITY.

IT IS LOCATED ALONG WEST HUNT HIGHWAY, IS LOCATED WEST OF NORTH AINSWORTH AND IS SOUTH OF THE TOWN OF QUEEN CREEK.

THE APPLICANT IS SHANNON ALLMAN OF TIFFANY AND BOSCO.

AND THEN THE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS EDWARD EDGEWOOD CAPITAL LLC.

SO THIS SHOWS THE SUBJECT SITE COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE COUNTY SHOWING IT IS JUST SOUTH OF THE TOWN OF QUEEN CREEK.

AND THEN THIS IS THE SURROUNDING ZONING SHOWING THE CB ONE ZONE AND THEN PROPOSED IS THE C THREE.

SO THIS IS THE VICINITY MAP. LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THE WHITE AREA IS MARICOPA COUNTY.

SO IT IS KIND OF IT'S ALMOST ON THE BORDER WITH MARICOPA COUNTY.

AND THEN THIS IS THE CURRENT AERIAL. AND THEN THE SITE.

POSTING DONE BY THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS THE SITE PHOTOS DONE BY STAFF.

SO TO BREAK DOWN THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, THEY HAVE TWO EVENT VENUES TO GO EAST TO GO EAST FROM WEST IT IS EVENT SPACE A WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE MAIN EVENT CENTER WHICH HAD THE ASSEMBLY HALL RESTAURANT, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR COCKTAIL AREA, AS WELL AS AN OUTDOOR OUTDOOR EVENT LAWN AND THEN A COMMERCIAL AREA THAT THE STAFF WILL BE USING FOR EVENT PLANNING AND ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES.

TO THE WEST THEY HAVE THE EVENT SPACE B, WHICH IS A SMALLER LOCATION, BUT IT INCLUDES THE ASSEMBLY HALL RESTAURANT AND OUTDOOR EVENT SPACE.

CURRENTLY, THE. THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN HAS APPROXIMATELY 165 ACRE PARKING SPACES, I APOLOGIZE.

AND THEN TO SUMMARIZE WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING.

SORRY. MY NOTES. SO THIS IS FOR 4.87 ACRES GOING FROM CB ONE TO C THREE.

IT CURRENTLY HAS THE SAN TAN VALLEY SPECIAL AREA PLAN DESIGNATION OF SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IN THE C-3 ZONING IS USED AS AN EVENT VENUE, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD AND DOES NOT REQUIRE THE MINOR

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ALONG WEST HUNT HIGHWAY AND THEN AT THE SITE PLAN REVIEW LEVEL, THE TRAFFIC DRAINAGE AS WELL AS LIGHTING WILL BE REVIEWED DURING THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ACCORDING TO STATE STATUTES.

WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT TOWARDS THIS APPLICATION, AND THIS WAS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER TO THE WEST.

AND THEN AT THE JUNE 15TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 9 TO 0, SUBJECT TO THE 13 STIPULATIONS. AND THEN THIS IS THE MOTION, IF YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE IT WITH THE FOLLOWING 13 STIPULATIONS.

THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. AMAYA FROM THE BOARD? HEARING NONE, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT, I BELIEVE.

YES. WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO YOUR THING HERE, SIR? GOOD AFTERNOON. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, SHANE ALLMAN WITH TIFFANY AND BOSCO, 1850 CENTRAL AVENUE IN PHOENIX.

GRATEFUL TO BE HERE. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.

I DO HAVE SLIDES. I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THEM.

IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO THERE IS ONE SLIDE OR A COUPLE SLIDES THAT I DO WANT TO SHOW REAL QUICK.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL, AS SAM DISCUSSED FOR AN EVENT VENUE SPACE THAT WE'RE COMING.

WE'RE EXCITED TO, TO BE ABLE TO GET STARTED WITH THE SITE PLAN AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS.

THERE ARE NO OTHER EVENT SPACES LIKE THIS IN THE AREA.

THE CLOSEST ONE IS ABOUT TWO MILES AWAY IN THE SAN TAN HEIGHTS AREA, BUT IT'S PRIVATE.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO PROVIDE THIS EVENT VENUE FOR, FOR FAMILIES THAT COULD USE IT FOR A NUMBER OF, OF DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT THEY HAVE GOING ON. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF FLAVOR FOR WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO BUILD HERE.

THIS GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT OF THE TYPE OF PROJECT THEY WANT TO BRING.

IT'S A VERY HIGH QUALITY PROJECT THAT WE BELIEVE WILL ADD GREATLY TO THE AREA.

AND WE'RE EXCITED TO, TO BRING THAT. GRATEFUL FOR STAFF AND FOR THEM WORKING WITH US THROUGH ALL THE STIPULATIONS.

WE KNOW THE EVENT CENTERS THAT IT'S NOISE. TRAFFIC.

DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THAT CAN BE THERE. AND WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT WITH ALL OF THE STIPULATIONS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THOSE AS WE GO INTO THE SITE PLAN PHASE, APPLICATION APPROVAL PROCESS. WE DO HAVE STIPULATIONS THAT WILL HELP US TO FURTHER BOLSTER THOSE THINGS WITH NOISE REGARDING HOURS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND WE'RE EXCITED TO, TO GET MOVING WITH THIS.

WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST. THEY, THE MOON VALLEY NURSERY AS WELL AS A HOME THAT'S TO THE SOUTH OF US.

AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED THE SUPPORT LETTER. WE ALSO HAVE NEIGHBORS.

WE HAD FOUR ATTEND THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. THEY ALL EXPRESSED SUPPORT ARE EXCITED TO HAVE THIS IN THE AREA. SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOU, BUT WE'D APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR VOTE FOR APPROVAL FOR THIS FOLLOWING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. THANK YOU, MR. ALLMAN. ANY QUESTIONS? JUST A STATEMENT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. CHAIR. WELCOME.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN UNBELIEVABLE PROJECT. WE NEED MORE OF THESE IN PINAL COUNTY.

WE HAVE NO PLACES TO REALLY GO HAVE WEDDINGS AND QUINCEANERAS AND GRADUATION.

SO AS I'VE SAID TO YOU BEFORE, THAT THIS IS SUCH A GREAT PROJECT AND I HOPE THAT YOU COULD SPREAD THIS THROUGHOUT PINAL COUNTY.

YES, YES. AND SUPERVISOR VITIELLO, I KNOW I WAS LOOKING FOR A STIPULATION THAT SAID WE HAD TO PROVIDE ANOTHER ONE SOMEWHERE ELSE IF WE BROUGHT THIS ONE TO YOU, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE ANY PROGRAM, BUT WE WOULD WELCOME YOU EVERYWHERE.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SUPERVISOR MILLER, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO.

I'M GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.

ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC CARE TO COMMENT ON THIS? ESPECIALLY NOT YOU, MISS MOONEY. LET'S SEE. HEARING, SEEING NONE FROM THE PUBLIC.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THERE'S NO OTHER.

NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION, PLEASE, MR. CHAIR. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NINE AS WRITTEN.

I HAVE A MOTION WITH. WITH STIPULATIONS. OH. GOT IT.

I PUT MY GLASSES ON. WE GOT THAT ONE RIGHT. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I I I, I OPPOSED.

HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER TEN, WHICH IS A DISCUSSION, APPROVAL DISAPPROVAL OF THE PAY STRUCTURE AND SALARIES ASSIGNED TO THE PINELLAS COUNTY

[10. Discussion/approval/disapproval of the pay structure and salaries assigned to the Pinal County Sheriff's Office (PCSO) Law Enforcement Step Plan. (Ross Teeple/Angeline Woods/MaryEllen Sheppard)]

YOU'RE HIDING OUT IN THE BACK THERE. YOU'RE NOT VERY GOOD AT HIDING.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, PINAL COUNTY.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HAVING THIS ON THE AGENDA ITEM.

I ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK THESE AMAZING PEOPLE RIGHT HERE, KIMBERLY VERDUGO, MARY ANN SHEPHERD AND FINANCE.

ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL THAT THEY RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEED THE FINEST LAW ENFORCEMENT INDIVIDUALS THAT WE CAN.

WE HIRE THE BEST AT THE PINAL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND IF YOU DECIDE TO APPROVE THIS PAY PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO ASSURE THEM THAT THEY ARE THE BEST. IF THERE'S ONE PERSON IN THIS ROOM THAT I WILL FEEL BAD ABOUT IF YOU PASS THIS, THAT'S DETECTIVE CALZONA DOWN THERE IN THE GREEN BECAUSE SHE IS OUR RECRUITING DEPUTY, AND SHE IS GETTING INUNDATED WITH PHONE CALLS ABOUT PEOPLE ASKING IF THIS PAY RAISE IS GOING TO GO THROUGH. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WHATSOEVER, I'D LOVE TO ANSWER THEM.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR SHERIFF PEOPLE? CRICKETS.

NO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SHERIFF. APPRECIATE IT.

IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, THEN. MAY I GET A MOTION, PLEASE, MR. CHAIR? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM TEN AS WRITTEN.

I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. MOTION IN A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU, SIR, AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL THE PHONE CALLS.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS DISCUSSION, APPROVAL.

[11. Discussion/approval/disapproval of the request to create a new job classification to meet the current staffing needs of the department in order to provide necessary services. Funding for this position is authorized in the Pinal County FY 2026–2027 budget. Pilot (Civilian) (Kimberlee Verdugo/MaryEllen Sheppard)]

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS KIMBERLY VERDUGO, AND I'M THE HUMAN RESOURCES CLASSIFICATION AND COMPENSATION MANAGER.

TODAY WE ARE SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL TO CREATE A NEW CLASSIFICATION OF A CIVILIAN PILOT POSITION FOR THE PINAL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

THE CIVILIAN PILOT WILL SERVE AS A SPECIALIZED TECHNICAL EXPERT SUPPORTING THE PINAL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE BY PROVIDING LOGISTICAL SUPPORT AND PILOTING A HELICOPTER FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT MISSIONS AND CONDUCTING ESSENTIAL FLIGHT OPERATIONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

THE CREATION OF THE CIVILIAN PILOT WILL EXPAND THE POTENTIAL POOL OF QUALIFIED APPLICANTS FOR THIS VERY CRITICAL ROLE.

THANK YOU, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. VERDUGO? HEARING.

SEEING NONE. THANK YOU. MAY I GET A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 11 AS PRESENTED.

I HAVE A MOTION AS THEIR SECOND, SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I I I, I OPPOSED.

HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DON'T GO AWAY BECAUSE YOU'RE NEXT AGAIN. ITEM NUMBER 12.

[12. Discussion/approval/disapproval of the revised Pinal County Pay Grades and Salary Ranges and the replacement of Pinal County Policy 4.20, Wage and Salary Administration to be effective the pay period beginning October 25, 2026. (Kimberlee Verdugo/MaryEllen Sheppard) ]

YOU'RE UP, MADAM CHAIRMAN MCCLURE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD KIMBERLY VERDUGO, HUMAN RESOURCES COMPENSATION MANAGER THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY AND WITH THIS ITEM. BEFORE I BEGIN, I NEED TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT THE CURRENT AND PROPOSED PINAL COUNTY PAY GRADES AND SALARY RANGE PRESENTATION THAT I'LL BE ADDRESSING TODAY HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD.

WE ARE SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL TO ADOPT A NEW PINAL COUNTY PAY GRADES AND TO REPLACE OUR EXISTING WAGE AND SALARY ADMINISTRATION POLICY, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 25TH, 2026. THE PROPOSED PAY GRADE STRUCTURE REDUCES THE SALARY RANGE SPREADS.

THIS CREATES A MORE COMPETITIVE ENTRY SALARY AND HELPS EMPLOYEES REACH THE MARKET MIDPOINT FASTER.

THE MARKET MIDPOINT REPRESENTS THE MARKET RATE FOR FULLY COMPETENT AND EXPERIENCED EMPLOYEES PERFORMING THE FULL SCOPE OF THE POSITION.

AS YOU MAY RECALL FROM PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS TO THIS BOARD, THIS CHANGE IS CRITICAL TO PREVENTING THE LOSS OF HIGHLY QUALIFIED STAFF.

THE PROPOSED WAGE AND SALARY POLICY ADMINISTRATION MAINTAINS OUR PRACTICE OF USING OBJECTIVE, JOB RELATED CRITERIA FOR ALL SALARY DECISIONS, WHILE ENHANCING PROCEDURAL INTEGRITY AND ADMINISTRATIVE EFFICIENCY.

TOGETHER, THE REVISED PAY STRUCTURE AND NEW POLICY PROMOTE INTERNAL PAY EQUITY, LEGAL COMPLIANCE AND OPERATIONAL TRANSPARENCY WHILE STRENGTHENING THE COUNTY'S ABILITY TO ATTRACT WELL QUALIFIED APPLICANTS AND RETAIN HIGH PERFORMING EMPLOYEES.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. VERDUGO ON THIS ITEM? JUST JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THIS WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.

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THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. VERDUGO? I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN.

CAREFULLY CONSTRUCTED. CORRECT. WITH THAT ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

THAT WASN'T MY QUESTION. YOU GOT TO WAIT FOR ME TO SAY THAT.

YEAH, I'M MOVING ALONG. YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T HEAR ANY QUESTIONS. NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. GREAT. CAN I GET A MOTION, PLEASE? NOW, YOU CAN DO THAT, MR. CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 12 AS PRESENTED.

I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? IS THAT A QUESTION OR A SECOND? WE'RE GETTING SLAPPY. OKAY. MOTION AND A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND AGAIN, DON'T GO AWAY BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL UP.

[13. Discussion/approval/disapproval to amend Section E.2. of the 2026/2027 Pinal County Employee Compensation Plan to authorize across-the-board increases be applied to the base salary when the resulting salary exceeds the maximum of the salary range, in lieu of a one-time lump sum payment. (Kimberlee Verdugo/MaryEllen Sheppard)]

MISS VERDUGO. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MCCLURE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

KIMBERLY VERDUGO, COMPENSATION. HUMAN RESOURCES MANAGER.

WE'RE SEEKING APPROVAL TO AMEND THE FISCAL YEAR 2627 EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION PLAN TO ALLOW THE ACROSS THE BOARD SALARY ADJUSTMENTS TO BE APPLIED TO BASE SALARIES, EVEN WHEN EXCEEDING THE CURRENT SALARY RANGE.

MAX. WITHOUT THIS CHANGE, EMPLOYEES WHO CURRENTLY ARE AT THE MAXIMUM RANGE WILL RECEIVE A LUMP SUM PAYOUT IN LIEU OF A BASE PAY ADJUSTMENT.

THIS AMENDMENT IS NECESSARY TO ENSURE ALL EMPLOYEES ELIGIBLE FOR THE ACROSS THE BOARD INCREASE ARE TREATED EQUITABLY WHEN THE NEW PAY GRADE STRUCTURE, WHICH INCLUDES HIGHER SALARY RANGE MAXES, GOES INTO EFFECT ON OCTOBER 25TH, 2026.

SO. SO IN EFFECT, THE RAISE, THE CHANGE IN PAY AND THEN ADJUSTED.

CORRECT. BECAUSE THIS WILL OCCUR AFTER THE ACROSS THE BOARD ADJUSTMENT.

AND SO WE WANT TO ALLOW FOR THOSE. IT DOESN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL OCTOBER 25TH.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THAT ARE AT THE CURRENT MAX, WHEN THE NEW CHANGES ARE APPLIED, THEY'RE TREATED EQUITABLY AND WOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE RANGE ADJUSTMENT AS OPPOSED TO A LUMP SUM ADJUSTMENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR..

DO. YOU READY, MR. CHAIR? WITH NO QUESTIONS, MAY I PLEASE GET A MOTION? MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 13 AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. OH, I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, I HAVE A OKAY, MOTION. MOTION AND A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I I I, I OPPOSED.

HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND WITH THAT HAVE ANY ANY ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDA THAT THE BOARD

[14. Discussion of Board Members' request for future agenda item(s) and/or reports to be presented at upcoming meetings. (Jeffrey McClure)]

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. WELL, WITH THAT, THEN THERE'S NO MORE BUSINESS BEFORE THE BOARD.

WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY, FOR BEING SO PATIENT TODAY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.