[9:30 AM - CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:09] WORK SESSION. WE ARE IN ORDER BEFORE WE DO ITEM NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE A SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT. THESE YOUNG LADIES OVER HERE, ONE HAS HAD A BIRTHDAY, ONE'S GOING TO HAVE A BIRTHDAY AND YOU KNOW, AND THEIR OFFICE IS DECORATED, SO SHOULD ALL GO BY THEIR OFFICE DOWN THE HALL AND SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY. BUT ALSO I THINK WE SHOULD SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THEM, BECAUSE HOW ELSE TO EMBARRASS PEOPLE ON THEIR BIRTHDAY BUT TO SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY. SO IF YOU'RE ALREADY, YOU'RE READY. 123. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR CLERKS. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT, THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN THAT IS WHEN YOU'RE EATING AT A RESTAURANT. THEY DO IT AT YOUR TABLE. OH, ABSOLUTELY. [1. Presentation and discussion of the SunZia Transmission Project, completed in Pinal County in June 2026. Mr. Matt Kowalsky, Business Manager with Pattern Energy Group, has requested an opportunity to update the Board of Supervisors on the project. Supervisor District #3. (AD26-003) (Sangeeta Deokar/Dedrick Denton)] ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE SUN ZIA TRANSMISSION PROJECT. AND MR. WILLIAMS, YOU'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE THIS PROJECT, THIS ITEM ACTUALLY, YES. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, NATASHA AND KELSEY. SO THIS MORNING I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF INTRODUCING OUR FIRST SPEAKER. NOW ON THE AGENDA. IT SAYS MATT KOWALSKI. MATT IS NOT HERE TODAY, BUT WE DO HAVE PETER FURLOW. SO PETER IS AN ATTORNEY WITH SUN ZIA, AND HE'S GOING TO HELP LEAD AN UPDATE ON THIS PROJECT. AND WE ALSO HAVE THE OPERATIONS MANAGER IN THE OFFICE IN THE BOARDROOM TODAY. SO WITH THAT, PETER, WE'LL LET YOU TAKE IT AWAY. OH, HERE'S THE CLICKER. GOOD MORNING. I'M EXCITED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING. JUST JUST GIVING A PROJECT UPDATE. SO THAT'S WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THAT TOO. SO GOOD. SO AS MENTIONED, I'M PETER FURLOW, I'M WITH CORALS AND BRADY REPRESENT PATTERN ENERGY. TAD IS WITH ME AS WELL. TODAY. TAD IS ON OUR YOU COULD SAY ON THE GROUND HE'S OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR SUN ZIA. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ARE WANTING TO KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS THERE, WHAT IS THIS? TAD CAN PROBABLY HELP OUT AND I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW. SINCE COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS STARTED AT SUN ZIA JUNE OF 2026. AND I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF DISCUSSED AT THE COUNTY GOING THROUGH PERMITTING CONSTRUCTION, BOTH IN NEW MEXICO AS WELL AS PINAL COUNTY FOR ABOUT THE LAST TEN PLUS YEARS. SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT SUN IS, IT'S A 550 MILE TRANSMISSION LINE THAT TAKES ENERGY FROM A WIND FARM, THE LARGEST IN THE UNITED STATES. MAYBE THE WORLD ALL THE WAY TO PINAL COUNTY ON THE WEST END THAT YOU SEE THE LINE TRACKING RIGHT THERE, ABOUT 80 MILES OF THE LINE ARE IN PINAL COUNTY. AND AND WHAT IS PRODUCED IN NEW MEXICO. WHAT IS BUILT IN NEW MEXICO IS THAT WIND FARM THAT'S PRODUCING ABOUT 3600MW, OR 3.6GW OF ENERGY. WHAT IS BEING TAKEN TO PINAL COUNTY IS ABOUT THREE GIGAWATTS OF ENERGY. THAT IS THEN SOLD ON THE OPEN MARKET TO ENERGY COMPANIES. I'LL GET TO IT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. BUT PUBLIC NOW, ONE OF THE THE LARGEST ACQUISITIONS WAS FROM SRP. SO TO SUMMARIZE, ALL THE GENERATION, ALL THE WIND FARMS ARE OVER IN NEW MEXICO, TAKES IT ON A LINE. IT GETS TAKEN TO PINAL COUNTY. SO WHO IS PATTERN ENERGY? THIS MAP SHOWS THEIR PROJECTS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. THEY HAVE OVER 40 FACILITIES ACROSS NORTH AMERICA WITH OVER 12GW OF OPERATING AND IN CONSTRUCTION CAPACITY. THEY'RE RENEWABLE ENERGY DEVELOPERS. SO A LOT OF SOLAR AND WIND. AGAIN, LARGEST PROJECT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY ABOUT, IS SUN. ZIA IS LOCATED IN NEW MEXICO WITH THE TRANSMISSION LINES CUTTING ACROSS OVER TO ARIZONA. A LITTLE PICTURE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT JUST SHOWS PATTERN. THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION IN 23. THEY'RE AT THE COUNTY FAIR. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME INVOLVEMENT WITH THE THE GLOW [00:05:01] FEST. THEY ARE INVOLVED WITH CAC, A COUPLE OF OTHER GREAT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY. AS FAR AS WHERE THE CONVERTER STATION IS LOCATED, IT'S EAST OF THE THE PINAL FAIRGROUNDS, JUST WEST OF THE 87. SO STARTING WITH LUCID TO THE SOUTH, ALL THE WAY NORTH, THERE'S THIS DESIGNATED EMPLOYMENT CORRIDOR. AND RIGHT AT THE NORTH END WHERE YOU SEE THE CONVERTER STATION, YOU SEE THERE'S ALL THAT LARGE SCALE UTILITY SCALE SOLAR FARMS OUT THERE. AND THEN THE DESIGNATIONS EVERYWHERE SOUTH OF THAT ARE FOR EMPLOYMENT, INDUSTRIAL. SO I THINK PLANNING STAFF, THE IDEA IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE OFF THE HIGHWAY AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ALL THIS ENERGY GENERATION HERE WHO BENEFITS FOR THAT? IT'S LARGE ENERGY USERS, EMPLOYMENT USERS, INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THREE GIGAWATTS OF ENERGY COMING INTO SUN ZIA THAT'S ENOUGH FOR, I THINK A MILLION HOMES. IF IF RESIDENTS IS ENDED UP BEING ON THE RECEIVING END OF, OF ANY OF THE ENERGY IF IT WAS ALLOCATED. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER MAP SHOWING KIND OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE POINT OF THIS SLIDE IS JUST TO SHOW THAT IT'S SURROUNDED BY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, TRANSMISSION LINES, FIBER OPTIC LINES, SOLAR AND BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE. RIGHT OVER IN THIS 11 MILE CORNER AREA. AND IT'S, IT'S LOCATED RIGHT OVER THERE. IT'S LOCATED FAR AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS HOW I ASSUME A LOT OF THOSE UTILITY SCALE SOLAR PROJECTS GOT APPROVED SURROUNDING IT. IT'S REMOTE IN A SENSE, BUT ALSO TO THE SOUTH, THERE'S THOSE LARGER EMPLOYMENT, INDUSTRIAL OPPORTUNITIES. AS FAR AS WHAT IT BRINGS TO PINAL COUNTY, THE THE MOST OBVIOUS IS THE THE THREE GIGAWATTS OF ENERGY THAT CAN BE USED AND DEPLOYED FOR FOR GROWTH IN THE COUNTY. IN TERMS OF JOB CREATION, THERE WAS HUNDREDS OF CONSTRUCTION WORKERS BETWEEN 23 AND 26. WE HAVE THE OPERATIONS MANAGER HERE. THERE'S ABOUT FOUR. HE'S ONE OF FOUR PERMANENT EMPLOYEES ON THE SITE. AND THEN IT PRODUCES APPROXIMATELY $2 MILLION IN ANNUAL PROPERTY TAXES. AND THE LAST POINT IS JUST SPEAKING TO AS A NEIGHBOR. SO PATTERN AGAIN HAS BEEN AT THIS SITE SINCE 23. ITS OPERATION AS OF A FEW OPERATIONAL AS OF A FEW MONTHS AGO. WE HAVE FOLKS AT THE SITE. AND JUST A QUICK EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THESE OPERATIONS FOLKS GO AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ARE ARE VERY COMMUNICATIVE WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND ASK, HEY, HOW'S THIS GOING? IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN FIX ON THE SITE? SO THIS LAST MONTH, A COUPLE OF THE, THE NEIGHBORING LAY DOWN YARDS WERE SAYING THE LIGHTS AT THE SITE WERE A BIT GLARING INTO THEIR PROPERTY, AND IT'S TOO BRIGHT AND PATTERN FIXED IT WITHIN THE WEEK. SO I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A TURN THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A BLIND SPOT AS WELL. AND WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT AS WELL. SO WE'RE HERE, WE'RE IN THE COUNTY AND, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. THIS IS WHAT I MENTIONED, THIS THIS MASSIVE POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I MENTIONED AT THE TOP. SO AGAIN, OF THE THREE GIGAWATTS, THOSE ARE BEING SOLD TO, TO DIFFERENT UTILITY COMPANIES, DIFFERENT BUYERS IN THE MARKET. AND AS OF I THINK MAYBE THIS LAST MONTH, SRP IS THE LARGEST BUYER RIGHT NOW. AND THEY JUST PURCHASED 600MW OF THAT THREE GIGAWATT OF POWER. AND THIS IS JUST PULLED FROM FROM THE ARTICLE, BOBBY OLSEN, I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S CAME BEFORE YOU, ALL THE SUPERVISORS, BUT I KNOW SRP FOLKS WILL COME UP HERE. AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE CONSTANTLY SAYING IS WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MEET THIS ENERGY DEMAND. AND SO THIS PROJECT IS, IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT CAN HELP MEET THAT DEMAND. AND THEN THE LAST THING I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IMPACT THIS HAS ALREADY HAD ON THE GRID. SO THIS IS NOT MY SPECIALTY, ADMITTEDLY, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT'S ON THE LEFT EXISTING NETWORK VARIATION THAT WAS PRE SUN ZIA BECOMING OPERATIONAL. THE THE UP AND DOWN PEAKS AND VALLEYS THAT ARE SHOWN IS BASICALLY TRYING TO ILLUSTRATE THAT IT WAS IT WAS QUITE UNSTABLE. THE ENERGY GRID PRIOR TO SWANSEA BECOMING OPERATIONAL ONCE IT [00:10:01] BECAME OPERATIONAL. IF YOU SEE IT'S KIND OF LEVELED OUT QUITE A BIT, AND WHAT THAT ALLOWS IS ESSENTIALLY MAKES IT SO YOU HAVE A MORE STABLE GRID, LESS CHANCE OF BLACKOUTS. AND THEN I THINK THE THIRD BENEFIT WOULD BE WHEN IT IS UNSTABLE LIKE THAT WITH A BUNCH OF PEAKS AND VALLEYS, I THINK THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF ENERGY LOSS FROM OTHER GENERATORS. SO IF SOMEBODY WERE TO BE PRODUCING, YOU KNOW, 1000MW OF ENERGY, IF THERE'S A LOT OF PEAKS AND VALLEYS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU GET 900 OF THAT. BUT WHEN IT'S MORE STABLE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET THE FULL 1000, WHICH IS, WHICH IS SUPER BENEFICIAL. SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR, FOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING. I KNOW IT'S A LIGHT AGENDA. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE ANY OPERATIONS ON THE GROUND QUESTIONS, TAD IS HERE AND HE'S DEFINITELY A BETTER POSITION THAN ME TO TO GIVE INFORMATION ON THAT. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK THANK YOU, MR. FERLO. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. FERLO AT THIS TIME? I HAVE GOT ONE OVER HERE. SUPERVISOR STURDY. SO ARE YOU INVOLVED WITH THE WHOLE PROJECT ALL THE WAY FROM NEW MEXICO TO HERE? I'M PERSONALLY SORRY, CHAIRMAN, SUPERVISOR. I'M NOT PERSONALLY INVOLVED WITH IT IN NEW MEXICO OR ARIZONA. I'M FILLING IN FOR MATT KOWALSKI RIGHT NOW. I REPRESENT PATTERN ON OTHER ITEMS IN ARIZONA, AND I HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF SUN ZIA, BUT NO, I'M NOT INVOLVED WITH IT ON THE NEW MEXICO SIDE. SO YOU CAN'T REALLY ASK ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON HOW ON THE ON THE PROJECT. THEN I CAN TRY WHAT'S WHAT'S THE QUESTION? WELL, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WIND AND LUCKILY WE DON'T HAVE WIND HERE IN PINAL COUNTY OTHER THAN WHEN WE NEED IT. THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT HOW THE WINDMILLS ARE FALLING APART AND THEY HAVE TO GET THEY BREAK DOWN, THEY, YOU KNOW, HURT WILDLIFE AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO ALL THE BLADES. AND I WAS WONDERING, HOW LONG HAS THIS PROJECT BEEN UP AND RUNNING? AND ARE YOU SEEING THE DEGRADATION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OVER THERE YET, OR IS EVERYTHING STILL UP AND RUNNING? FINE? SUPERVISOR IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IT'S BEEN UP AND RUNNING SINCE 23. THERE'S BEEN NO DEGRADATION. AGAIN, ALL OF THE THE THE WIND GENERATION'S OVER THERE IN NEW MEXICO SIDE. THERE'S NOTHING IN ARIZONA LOCATED IN ARIZONA. AND I KNOW THAT APPLICANT HAD TO GO THROUGH THE NECESSARY ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING AND PERMITTING THROUGH THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS. IT SPANS THREE COUNTIES IN NEW MEXICO. SO ABOUT TEN YEARS OF PERMITTING AND STUDIES AND PROVING THAT IT WOULDN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. FURLOW? SUPERVISOR MILLER, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANT TO VALIDATE KIND OF THE THE NEED. YOU SEE, SRP IN ARIZONA, POWER PROVIDER REACHING OUT TO GRAB SOME OF THIS POWER. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE STATE OF ARIZONA'S LEGISLATURE HAS MANDATED THAT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE I WANT TO SAY IT'S AROUND 15% OF ALL THEIR GENERATED POWER HAS TO COME FROM SOME TYPE OF GREEN ENERGY. SO THAT'S WHY THEY LATCH ON TO SOLAR. THEY LATCH ON TO WIND, THEY LATCH ON TO THESE NEEDS AND THAT IT'S A STATE LEGISLATURE THAT'S MANDATED THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. AND TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR WITH THEIR PROVIDED REQUIREMENTS. CAN YOU VALIDATE THAT? CHAIRMAN SUPERVISOR MILLER I CAN VALIDATE THAT. AND I THINK AN INTERESTING STATISTIC I READ IS WITH THIS ACQUISITION, I THINK IT TRIPLED SRP PROFILE FOR FOR WIND ENERGY. SO I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE FOR WHY THEY ACQUIRED IT. THERE'S PROBABLY SOME THRESHOLD THAT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THEIR PORTFOLIO IS RENEWABLE. THIS PROJECT COMES ONLINE AND IMMEDIATELY THERE'S, THERE'S BUYERS IN THE ARIZONA MARKET LOOKING FOR, FOR THIS TYPE OF ENERGY TO, TO SHORE UP THAT RENEWABLE SIDE OF THEIR PORTFOLIO. YEAH. THANK YOU. I COULDN'T SAY THE WORD RENEWABLE, SO NEITHER COULD I. YEAH. RENEWABLE. SO WITH THAT, SO YOU SAID THAT'S SIX. WHAT DID YOU SAY 600MW. YEAH. 600MW SRP THREE GIGAWATTS HERE. SO THAT WOULD BE 2.4GW LEFT OVER. WHO ELSE HAS PURCHASED THIS POWER. ANY ANY IDEA. THEY'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH OTHER ARIZONA UTILITIES RIGHT NOW TO BUY UP THE REMAINING 2.4. I KNOW SOME PORTION OF THAT. 3.6, I THINK 600 STATE IN NEW MEXICO. I THINK A PORTION WILL CONTINUE ON THROUGH KAISO, MAYBE OVER TO [00:15:03] CALIFORNIA, MAYBE 500MW, AND THE REST WOULD BE ARIZONA. I'M JUST CURIOUS. SO THEN IF YOU HAVE ALL THIS EXTRA POWER, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT DURING THE DAY? IT GETS USED. YEAH. SO SUPERVISOR MCCLURE OR. CHAIRMAN YEAH. SO THE EXTRA CAPACITY WILL GET PURCHASED AND UTILIZED. RIGHT NOW I THINK APS AND SRP ARE BOTH SAYING WE NEED TO DOUBLE OUR ENERGY OUTPUT TO SOME EXTENT. SO IT'S GOING TO BE BOUGHT. IT'S JUST WE JUST BECAME OPERATIONAL IN JUNE. SRP HASN'T EVEN DONE THEIR POWER TEST ON IT YET. AND SO I THINK THAT HAPPENS NEXT MONTH. AND THEN IT WILL ENTER INTO THE THE SRP LOAD. SO I THINK THIS UPDATE IS WE'RE CONSTRUCTED NOW WE'RE OPERATIONAL, BUT MAYBE IN SIX MONTHS I COME BACK AND TELL YOU WHERE THE THE REST OF THE ENERGY HAS HAS BEEN PURCHASED AND UTILIZED COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS. I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WE MAKE ALL THIS POWER. OH, WE JUST BOUGHT A PIECE OF IT. WHERE'S THE REST OF IT? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IT DOING? IT'S NOT SITTING IN A BATTERY SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S LIKE IT'S SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? I'M JUST CURIOUS. YEP. MAYBE. YEAH, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. FURLOW OR TAD, THE OPERATIONS MANAGER? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HIS LAST NAME. JUST. HI, TAD. SO NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO RECESS THE [2. Meeting of the Pinal County Flood Control District Board of Directors. (Joshua Plumb/Joe Ortiz)] BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WORK SESSION MEETING AND CONVENE THE PINAL COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING. AND WITH THAT, I HAVE OOPS. WITH THAT I HAVE MR. PLUM. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JOSHUA PLUM, PINAL COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT ASSISTANT COUNTY ENGINEER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO PRESENT ON THE SAN TAN VALLEY AREA DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN. EXCELLENT. IN GENERAL, THE COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT LIKES TO PERFORM A LOT OF STUDIES TO UNDERSTAND FLOODING IN THE REGION. WE PERFORM STUDIES FOR THREE MAIN REASONS. ONE IS TO TO GENERATE OR UPDATE MODELS FOR REGIONS THAT HAVE THE FLOOD INFLOWS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND FLOOD HAZARDS FOR THAT AREA. THAT CAN BE UPDATES DUE TO CHANGE OR UPDATED TOPOGRAPHY INFORMATION, REFINED MODELING SYSTEMS, CHANGES TO THE AREA, OR CHANGES TO INFLOW FROM FROM OUTSIDE OF THAT WATERSHED. SECOND REASON THAT WE DO THIS IS TO BETTER DEFINE OUR REGULATORY FRAMEWORK. THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT OVERSEES A LOT OF AREAS. WE LOOK AT FISSURES, WE LOOK AT SUBSIDENCE AREAS, AND WE LOOK AT. WE LOOK AT RIPARIAN AREAS. BUT THE MAJORITY OF WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING OVERSIGHT ON IS AREAS OF DEFINED FLOODING. WE'VE GOT THE FEMA FLOOD HAZARD AREAS. WE'VE GOT LOCAL LOCAL FLOODPLAINS THAT ARE DEFINED BY STUDIES THAT WE DO THAT WE TREAT BASICALLY LIKE THE FEMA FLOOD FLOOD HAZARD AREAS, AND WE'VE GOT REGULATORY FLOWS. ANYTHING OVER 200 CUBIC FEET PER SECOND IS REGULATED ACCORDING TO OUR ORDINANCE. THIRD REASON THAT WE DO STUDIES IS SO THAT WE CAN DEFINE PROJECTS. WHEN WE'VE IDENTIFIED THESE FLOOD HAZARDS, WE LOOK FOR PROJECTS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS THOSE THOSE MAYBE PROJECTS THAT GO INTO THE COUNTY CIP. THEY MAY BE PROJECTS THAT GO INTO A CITY, CIP OR MAYBE PROJECTS THAT A DEVELOPER CAN, CAN DO OR PARTICIPATE IN WHEN THEY'RE COMING THROUGH AND DOING THEIR AREA. SO THE AREA DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN BASICALLY DOES ALL THREE OF THESE THINGS. IT REFINES THE STUDY FOR AN AREA. IT IDENTIFIES THAT REGULATORY FRAMEWORK FOR US, AND IT SHOWS IT IDENTIFIES FLOOD HAZARDS AND PROJECTS THAT WE CAN, WE CAN IMPLEMENT IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THOSE. SO IT'S MY PLEASURE NOW TO INTRODUCE TO YOU AND TELL US THE INTEL US TEAM WHO'S DONE THIS STUDY FOR US. THEY'LL WALK THROUGH THE DATA COLLECTION, HYDROLOGY AND HYDRAULICS, REPORT THE FLOOD HAZARD ASSESSMENT AND FLOOD MITIGATION STUDY. ALL RIGHT, COME ON DOWN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. MY NAME IS RYAN SAUER WITH INTEL US. I WAS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE SAN TAN VALLEY ADMP. AND THE THE ORANGE BOX HERE IN THE MIDDLE IS GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE FOUR MAIN PARTS OF THE STUDY THAT WE, THAT WE RAN THROUGH, STARTING WITH THE DATA COLLECTION, THE HYDROLOGY AND HYDRAULICS, THE FLOOD HAZARD ASSESSMENT, AND THEN FINISHING OFF WITH THE FLOOD MITIGATION STUDY. SO STARTING OFF WITH THE DATA COLLECTION PORTION OF THE PROJECT, SANTAN VALLEY IS A VERY FAIRLY LARGE AREA OUT NEWLY INCORPORATED CITY LIMITS THERE AS WELL ARE SHOWN OR TOWN LIMITS. IT'S ABOUT 68MI■!S RIGHT [00:20:01] THERE IN THE HEART OF THE SAN TAN VALLEY, WITH ABOUT 35 OF THOSE BEING THE NEW LIMITS OF THE TOWN. THERE ARE TWO ADJACENT MASTER PLANS THAT ARE HAPPENING JUST TO THE NORTH OF THEM THE QUEEN CREEK, EAST MESA, ATRIUM P AND THE SAN TAN WEST ADP. THESE ARE BOTH BEING DONE BY THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT OF MARICOPA COUNTY. SO THERE WERE SOME ADJACENT COORDINATION THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH BOTH OF THOSE. A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP, BUT FOR THE PURPOSES WE THE YOU TYPICALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP WITH WITH MASTER PLANNING AREAS LIKE THIS. SO OUT IN THE SAN TAN VALLEY AREA, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS BEEN DONE. WE COLLECTED OR WE, WE HAD INFORMATION OF FOR ALMOST 300 CULVERTS, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 75 MILES OF CHANNELS. A LOT OF THESE ARE DISCONNECTED. BUT ALL THIS INFRASTRUCTURE HAS KIND OF BEEN DONE BY DEVELOPERS AND THROUGH THE COUNTY OVER THE YEARS IN THE SAN TAN VALLEY. SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IMPACTS THE HYDRAULICS OF THE WATERSHED. SO AND THEN WITH THAT, ONE OF THE OTHER PIECES OF THE DATA COLLECTION THAT WE HAD IS WE WANTED TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT THEY HAD FROM A DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT WHAT THEY HAD FROM A DRAINAGE ISSUE STANDPOINT. SO WE COMPILED A LOT OF THE KNOWN DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT THE COUNTY HAS. THEY SENT. WHEN THERE'S FLOODING ISSUES, THEY SEND MAINTENANCE CREWS OUT THERE TO, TO EVALUATE AND RELIEVE FLOODING, PUMPING AND WHATNOT. WE IDENTIFIED THOSE. WE ALSO DID WHAT'S CALLED A SURVEY ONE, TWO, THREE, WHICH IS A WAY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO IDENTIFY LOCATIONS, PROVIDE PHOTOS OF FLOODING ISSUES, LET US KNOW WHAT THEY'VE EXPERIENCED OVER THE YEARS FROM FLOODING PERSPECTIVE. AND WE ALSO HELD A PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY COULD PROVIDE US THE INFORMATION AS WELL. THEIR AND HERE ARE A FEW OF THE FLOODING PHOTOS. WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S FLOODING THAT HAPPENS IN THERE, BUT A FEW PRETTY FUN PHOTOS THAT WE HAVE. YES, SUPERVISOR. YEAH. IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT OTHER SLIDE THAT YOU HAD, THE ONE PREVIOUS. YES. WHY DID THE RED DOTS END THERE? IS IT BECAUSE THE MARICOPA IS DOING THE ONE UP ABOVE? OH NO. THAT THAT THOSE JUST HAPPEN TO BE THE LOCATIONS THAT WERE. THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE IDENTIFIED LOCATIONS THAT WE HAD BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE THAT WHAT PEOPLE IDENTIFIED THROUGH OUR SURVEY. ONE, TWO, THREE WITH THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. BECAUSE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WHERE YOUR BOUNDARY IS THERE NORTH OF THAT, THAT BLANK AREA, THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF FLOODING UP ALONG SCHNEPF ROAD AND, OH, I'M SORRY, ARE YOU SEEING OUTSIDE OF THE, THE, THE TEAL BOUNDARY AREA? I NOTICE ON YOUR OTHER MAP, IT SHOWS THAT MARICOPA. ONE MORE THING. THE EAST MESA MAP. YEAH, I SEE THAT THE YELLOW. THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS UP THERE. YEAH. SO THE, OUR OUR OUR STUDY WAS INSIDE OF THE TEAL BOUNDARY HERE. SO WE DIDN'T REALLY LOOK AT ANY DATA OUTSIDE OF THAT. BUT IN THESE ONES YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WITH OOPS, OH MY GOSH, I'M GOING THE WRONG WAY WITH THE DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TEAL BOUNDARY. THEY KIND OF STOP ALONG THERE. AND THEN WITH THE ISSUES, THERE JUST HAPPENED TO BE THERE ALONG THE QUEEN CREEK. WE JUST DIDN'T WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY INFORMATION FROM INDIVIDUALS REGARDING THOSE, WHICH IS UNBELIEVABLE TO ME BECAUSE PIMA ROAD AND ALL THAT RIGHT THERE. YES, THAT MIX UP. OH, PIMA ROAD AND ALL THAT IS. THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE MAJOR FLOODING OCCURS. PIMA ROAD THAT CONNECTS INTO IRONWOOD. YEAH. THERE'S MAJOR FLOODING AS IT COMES OFF OF THE THE AREA ON THE EAST SIDE OF SCHNEPF. AND THAT ALL FLOWS DOWN INTO THOSE RANCHETTES. SO I'M SURPRISED THAT YOU DIDN'T GET MUCH RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE UP THERE. SO THIS WAS SO THIS WAS ALL THAT'S QUITE POSSIBLE. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DID RECEIVE ANYTHING FROM PEOPLE THERE, BUT WE DID IDENTIFY SOME LOCATIONS WHICH WE'LL GET TO IN THE FLOOD HAZARD ASSESSMENT SIDE OF IT, WHERE WE DID IDENTIFY SOME LOCATIONS WHERE THERE WAS FLOODING HAPPENING. SUPERVISOR MILLER, I BELIEVE, HAS A QUESTION. YES, SUPERVISOR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WHEN AND WHERE DID YOU DO YOUR PUBLIC HEARING? HOW LONG AGO? OH, THE PUBLIC MEETING. PUBLIC MEETING AND WHERE WAS IT? GOOD QUESTION. SO IT WAS THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME TIME. THERE WERE SOME DELAYS REGARDING MAPPING, AERIAL MAPPING THAT WE HAD. SO THE INITIAL PUBLIC MEETING WAS HELD. IT WAS A VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEETING. IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE. IT WAS COVID. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS IN, OH MY GOD, 20 2021. IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME TIME. CORRECT. THAT'S FIVE YEARS AGO. CORRECT. OKAY. BECAUSE THERE WERE THERE WAS THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL DELAY IN GETTING ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. WE DID WE DID HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT SAN TAN VALLEY HERE RECENTLY WITH THE TOWN COUNCIL, AND THAT WAS HELD IN MARCH OR APRIL, I BELIEVE, HERE SOMEWHAT RECENTLY. OKAY. OKAY. WHICH AND THEY DON'T GO INTO THE RANCH AT AREAS THAT WE'RE THEY'RE NOT THE INCORPORATION EFFORT IS NOT UP IN THERE. I KNOW THAT. SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. SO THIS KIND OF FINALIZED JUST TALKING THE JUST THE DATA COLLECTION FOR THE FRONT END OF THE PROJECT. AS WE ALL KNOW, BETWEEN THE RANCH AND OTHER LOCATIONS, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW FLOODING ISSUES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN PINAL COUNTY OVER THE YEARS. SO THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE FOCUSING ON, WAS FIGURING OUT WHERE PEOPLE [00:25:03] KNEW THOSE THOSE FLOODING LOCATIONS WERE AND WHAT WE. AND THEN WE COULD PULL THOSE INTO OUR NEXT PHASE, WHICH WAS LOOKING AT THE HYDROLOGY AND HYDRAULICS. SO IT IS A FAIRLY COMPLICATED WATERSHED. THERE'S A LARGE OFF SITE PORTION OF THE WATERSHED, THE QUEEN CREEK, WHICH IS OVER 250 SQUARE, 260MI■!S FLOWING INTO IT RIGHT THERE UP AGAINST THE CAP CANAL. THERE ARE TWO OVERSHOOT OVERSHOOT LOCATIONS. ONE OF THEM IS THE QUEEN CREEK WASH ITSELF. THE OTHER IS DOWN NEAR MAGNA ROAD, AND THOSE BOTH, WHEN IT FILLS UP, IT FLOWS INTO THE WATERSHED, INTO THE SAN TAN VALLEY AREA. AS PART OF IT, WE. WE MODELED THIS USING THE RA 2D, WHICH HAS HAD A NEW INFILTRATION OPTION AT THE TIME, IS A TWO DIMENSIONAL SPREAD MODEL. SO YOU. WE WOULD PUT PRECIPITATION ONTO THE WATERSHED AS WELL AS THESE OFF SITE FLOWS FROM THE QUEEN CREEK AREA TO SHOW WHERE THE FLOW WAS GOING THROUGHOUT THE. THE STORM IN THE WATERSHED. SO LET ME. I'M SORRY CHAIRMAN, BUT OVERSHOOT. SO YOU'RE SAYING THE WATER GOES OVER THE CAP LIKE. YEAH, YEAH. SO THE CULVERTS THAT GO THROUGH THERE ARE THESE THEY'RE THESE HALF OH I'M SORRY. THEY'RE THESE A SERIES OF HALF CIRCULAR CULVERTS. SO IT'S NOT A WHOLE CIRCULAR. IT'S LIKE HALF. THEY'RE KIND OF A FUNNY LOOKING ONE, BUT THEY GO OVER AND UNDER ACTUALLY UNDER THE UNDER THE UNDER THE CAP. I BELIEVE THEY GO UNDER THE CAP CANAL. OKAY. INTERESTING. OKAY. ACTUALLY THE ONE TO THE SOUTH MAY ACTUALLY GO OVER IT. I THINK THE ONE UNDER THE QUEEN CREEK GOES UNDERNEATH IT. SO IT'S AN UNDERSHOOT. YEAH. THEY'RE ALL REFERRED TO AS OVERSHOOT. SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT YOU WOULD THINK THERE IS THERE IS ONE THAT GOES OVER. BUT THE REST OF THEM I THINK DO GO UNDERNEATH IT. BUT ONE OF THEM THERE'S ONE MAJOR ONE THAT GOES OVER. OKAY. SO COLLOQUIALLY JUST REFERRED TO AS OVERSHOOTS REGARDLESS. BUT WE DID MODEL THE FOUR STORMS, THE 200 YEAR FOR THE SIX HOUR DURATION, THE 24 HOUR DURATION, AS WELL AS THE TEN YEAR EVENTS FOR THE SAME. AND SO WITH THE H AND H WITH THE RESULTS FROM THAT MODEL, WE LOOKED AT, OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT THE MODEL RESULTS. LET'S COMPARE THOSE TO WHAT WE HAD FROM THESE IDENTIFIED ISSUES FROM THE THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT WHAT DOES THE FLOODING LOOK LIKE WHEN WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT THOSE RESULTS IN THE, ON THE ON THE GROUND AND IDENTIFY SOME OTHER POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR DRAINAGE. AND YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW MORE THAT WE IDENTIFIED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY. YEAH. THAT'S THAT LITTLE MEXICO. SUPERVISOR MILLER. YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I LOOK AT THIS THING BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED. MAYBE YOU DO LATER. YOU HAVE QUITE A BIT OF WATERSHED COMING FROM WHAT WOULD BE THE SOUTHWEST TOWARDS TOWARDS SAN TAN. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF HILLY THERE. AT LEAST THE ARROYOS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE ALL POINTED RIGHT TOWARDS YOUR BLUE BOUNDARY LINES. IT I ENVISION THIS BEING KIND OF A VALLEY AND EVERYTHING COMING INTO INTO IT. SO, SO WE, SO THE, THE, THE, THE BLUE WATERSHED THERE THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL THE WATERSHED THAT IS FLOWING TOWARDS SAN TAN VALLEY IS THERE'S KIND OF A SADDLE THERE. YEAH. SO EVERYTHING ELSE FLOWS TO THE SOUTH AWAY FROM SAN TAN. AND THEN RIGHT THERE ALONG THE ROAD THERE. IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING. IF YOU GO OUT THERE, IT. SO COMING FROM THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH, IT ACTUALLY HAS GOT A LITTLE HILL RIGHT WHERE THE RAILROAD IS AT. AND EVERYTHING KIND OF SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD FLOWS BACK TOWARDS THE FLORENCE AREA. EVERYTHING NORTH OF IT FLOWS UP TOWARDS THE, THE QUEEN CREEK AND TOWARDS THE SALT RIVER. OKAY. SO IT'S, IT IS, IT'S A, IT'S A FUNNY LITTLE SADDLE RIGHT THERE AT THAT LOCATION. SO YOU'LL GET IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE JUST BRINGING A LOT OF WATER INTO A CONCENTRATED AREA CALLED SAN TAN IS FROM FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. OH, ABSOLUTELY. AND YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE SOME WE'LL SHOW THE RESULTS WHERE YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE RIGHT THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SAN TAN VALLEY, WHERE IT ALL CONVERGES RIGHT THERE. AND IT'S MAKING ITS WAY UP TOWARDS THE SKY, TOWARDS THE QUEEN CREEK. OKAY. SO WITH THE, THE, THOSE FLOOD HAZARD, WE ALSO ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE DID WAS WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY. IT'S ONE THING FOR THE FLOOD AND FOR WATER TO BE ON THE GROUND THAT THAT HAPPENS. STREETS, YOU KNOW, THE STREETS ARE MADE TO TAKE SOME OF THE FLOWS. BUT WE WERE REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT WHERE OUR IMPACT STRUCTURES, WHERE WAS OUR MODELING SHOWING THAT SOME OF THESE, THESE BUILDINGS WERE BEING IMPACTED BY UPWARDS OF SIX INCHES OR MORE OF WATER. AND SO WE IDENTIFIED MORE THAN, OH, AND HERE'S AN INSTANCE, MORE THAN 200 STRUCTURES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY FLOODING WITH 100 YEAR EVENT AND SOME OTHERS WITH A TEN YEAR EVENT. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, YOU KNOW, OVER 200 STRUCTURES, AND THIS HAPPENS TO BE ALONG SCHNEPF AND KIND OF IN THE GENERAL AREA WHERE I BELIEVE YOU WERE WHEN SUPERVISORS WERE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. GOODMAN, THAT LITTLE MEXICO AREA. YEAH. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE IS HIGH AND THE FLOW IS COMING FROM THE FROM THE EAST SIDE, AND THERE'S NO REAL WAY FOR IT TO GET ACROSS THAT ROAD THERE. AND IT CAN POND UP AND LOOKS LIKE ALL, ALL THESE [00:30:04] STRUCTURES IN THIS AREA HAPPEN TO BE SUSCEPTIBLE. WHAT WE DETERMINED TO BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO FLOODING FOR THESE 100 YEAR EVENTS. ONE OTHER. AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THE FLOOD ASSESSMENT, TALKING WITH THE COUNTY, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE REALLY ARE NO FEMA EFFECTIVE FEMA FLOODPLAINS IN THIS WATERSHED. THE ONLY ONES THAT YOU HAVE ARE ALONG THE QUEEN CREEK ITSELF. AND SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE PRODUCTS THAT WE PROVIDE, THE COUNTY IS PART OF THE FLOOD HAZARD ASSESSMENT, WAS TO LOOK AT WHERE WHERE DOES IT ACTUALLY FLOOD DURING THE 100 YEAR EVENT. AND SO WE PROVIDED A COVERAGE OF THE 100 YEAR INUNDATION AREAS FOR THE ENTIRE SAN TAN VALLEY AREA. NOW, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TAKING THE FEMA THAT WOULD REQUIRE FLOOD INSURANCE FOR PEOPLE, BUT IT'S A REGULATORY TOOL FOR THE COUNTY SO THAT WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN, THEY CAN LOOK AT, WELL, WHAT IS WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE FLOOD WISE HERE? SO THEY CAN ASSESS THAT THAT PROPERTY ACCORDINGLY. AND THEN ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE TAKEAWAYS FROM THE FLOOD HAZARD ASSESSMENT THAT WE HAD WAS THERE REALLY IS A DISCONTINUOUS NATURE TO ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN SAN TAN VALLEY. A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS CAME IN PIECEMEAL THROUGHOUT THE VALLEY. AND SO WE'LL SEE ITEMS LIKE THIS, RIGHT? THIS IS SUPERVISOR GOODMAN, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT DOWN THE HEART OF THE SAN TAN VALLEY THERE. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, I KIND OF POINTED OUT HERE, YOU HAVE THESE EXISTING CHANNELS ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT TAKE THE FLOW, BUT YOU HAVE THIS START FROM THE SOUTH. SO YOU HAVE THE EXISTING CHANNELS IN THE COPPER BASIN AREA. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TAKING THE FLOWS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, DROPPING IT OFF INTO THE AGRICULTURAL FIELDS. THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE UNTIL IT GETS TO THE BELLA VISTA'S. THEY'RE PICKING THAT UP. THEY HAVE SOME NICE RETENTION BASINS. THEY FUNNEL IT THROUGH THAT ONCE AGAIN ENDS, YOU KNOW, OUT INTO AGRICULTURAL FIELDS UNTIL IT MAKES ITS WAY ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH WHERE IT GETS PICKED UP INTO A CHANNEL. AND SO WE SEE THIS TYPE OF DISCONTINUOUS INFRASTRUCTURE ALL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SAN TAN VALLEY AREA. SO WITH THAT, THE NEXT STEP OF THIS OF THE PROJECT WAS THE FLOOD HAZARD STUDY. SO WE WE TOOK THE ASSESSMENT, OKAY, NOW WE SEE ALL THESE ISSUES. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED STRUCTURES. WE HAVE I LOOKED AT LACK OF DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO TRY TO, FROM A REGIONAL STANDPOINT, TRY TO SOLVE AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS FOR THESE ISSUES. SO WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING FROM CHANNELS, CULVERTS, BASINS, STORM DRAINS, AND WE ALSO MODEL THOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE IMPACTS WEREN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACTING OTHER PEOPLE. IF WE WERE TO DO WHATEVER THE SOLUTIONS MIGHT BE. WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO SOME OF THE MAJOR STAKEHOLDERS IN THE AREA STATE LAND AND LARGE HOA'S AND DEVELOPERS THAT WERE GOING ON IN IN THE DEVELOPING IN THE AREA. SO WHAT WE CAME UP WITH, THERE ARE 12 AREAS, LARGE AREAS OF INTEREST THAT WE WE LOOKED AT, AND I'LL TOUCH ON ONE IN PARTICULAR, BUT THE REST OF THEM ARE SHOWN HERE JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION LATER. AS FAR AS WHAT SOME OF THESE WHAT SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING LOOKS LIKE. SO THIS IS THAT SAME AREA THAT WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT, AND THIS IS THE URBAN CORE OF ARIZONA STATE LAND HERE TO THE NORTH. THEY HAVE A PLANNED A MASTER PLAN FOR THIS AREA AS WELL. SO WE MET WITH STATE LAND TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING LINED UP WITH WHAT THEY WERE DOING. SO OUR PROPOSAL HERE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT THAT FLOW FROM THE SOUTH COPPER BASIN, CHANNELIZE IT THROUGH ALONG THE PROPOSED ALIGNMENT OF THE THE ROAD TO THE BELLA VISTA'S. BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT FLOW GOING ALL THE WAY, ALL THE WAY THROUGH COLLECTING IT AS IT COMES ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH, TO A LARGE RETENTION, TO A LARGE RETENTION BASIN THERE TO ATTENUATE THE FLOWS SO IT CAN CONTINUE ON NORTH TOWARDS THE WASH. SO THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S THE ONE OF THE LARGER EXAMPLES OF WHAT SOME OF THE PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE NEXT SLIDE IS A DUPLICATE ON IT LOOKS JUST THE SAME AND JUST AS GOOD. AND JUST TO RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER ONES, YOU GUYS SEE, WE HAVE SOME BASINS AND RETENTION BASINS CHANNELS, SOME CULVERTS TO PROVIDE FLOW THROUGH AREAS. I'M JUST GOING TO SKIP THROUGH A FEW. SAME THING. THERE'S SOME LARGE BOX CULVERTS. THIS THE ONE ON THE LEFT. WE TALKED WITH A CHRISTOPHER WANNAMAKER AT SAN TAN VALLEY. THEY'RE LOOKING TO THE ONE ON THE LEFT. HERE IS A POTENTIAL JOINT VENTURE. HE'S LOOKING TO REDO SKYLINE ROAD IN THE NEAR FUTURE. IN THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO COMBINE THAT WITH SOME DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. A COUPLE OF OTHER EXAMPLES. AND SO THEN FINALLY, I THINK I'M GOING TO TURN BACK TO MISTER PLUM TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS LOOK LIKE. JUST A REAL QUICK QUESTION. ALL THAT WATER FLOWS NORTH THERE. YES, YES, I HEARD I HEARD THE YES, I MEAN, I THAT'S WHAT I ASSUMED THAT IT WENT NORTH. THE OUTFALL FOR EVERYTHING IS EITHER THE QUEEN, THE QUEEN CREEK OR THE WASH. THEY'RE ON THE NORTH AND NORTH. OKAY, SO WE JUST DUMP IT IN MARICOPA [00:35:01] COUNTY. OKAY. THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE THAT BIG CHANNEL. THEY'VE GOT THAT HUGE CHANNEL. YEAH. AND IT'S JUST THE TRICK IS GETTING THE WATER TO THAT, TO THAT CHANNEL. YEAH. TO THE CHANNEL. YEAH. SUBSEQUENT TO OUR INITIAL 2021 PUBLIC MEETING WITH THIS, WE'VE HAD TWO OTHER MEETINGS WITH IN THE TOWN OF SAN TAN VALLEY. ONE WAS WITH THEIR COUNCIL TO PRESENT THIS TO THEM SO THEY COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS COMING FORWARD, GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER IT AND TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF IT AS WELL. THE OTHER WAS A PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE HELD AT THEIR COMPLEX THAT WAS REASONABLY WELL ATTENDED. I THINK WE HAD 20 OR SO RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT TO THAT, AND A COUPLE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE TOWN, SO THAT THEY COULD SEE WHAT THE MODELING RESULTS WERE AND GIVE US ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT AT THAT TIME. THOSE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN, AND RIGHT NOW, OUR INTENTION IS TO BRING THAT PLAN FORWARD TO THE BOARD, HOPEFULLY SOMETIME IN OCTOBER FOR FORMAL ADOPTION. THEN WE WILL ALSO BE GIVING IT TO THE TOWN SO THAT THEY CAN CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT TO FORMALLY ADOPT IT. IF THEY DO FORMALLY ADOPT IT AND IT GOES INTO THEIR REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, THEN WE AS THEIR FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR WILL HELP THEM WITH THE REGULATION OF THAT. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY SO WHO WHO COVERS THAT? BUT WE'RE OVER THERE. FLOOD MANAGEMENT. WE ARE AT THE MOMENT. AT THE MOMENT, YES. AND WHO PAYS FOR IT? THIS IS ALL GRANTS. ASSUMING WE CAN GET THE MONEY. WELL THERE CHAIRMAN MCCLURE THERE STILL INCLUDED IN OUR OUR TAXING SYSTEM. OH THE FLOOD. THE FLOOD IS. YES. THEN WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND PARTNERSHIPS AND ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN TO, TO DEVELOP AND FURTHER PROJECTS. SO THE NEXT STEP IS WELL FOR US IS TO GO THROUGH THIS WHEN WE GET THE FINALIZED REPORT AND TRY AND PLACE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS PROJECTS INTO OUR FIVE YEAR CIP. MANY OF THEM WILL GO INTO TO OUT YEARS AND JUST THE PLANNING STAGES OF OUR CIP. THEY'RE FAIRLY LARGE PROJECTS WITH FAIRLY, FAIRLY LARGE PRICE TAGS ATTACHED TO THEM, BUT WE DO PLAN TO INCORPORATE THESE INTO OUR CIP IN THE COMING YEARS. OKAY. SO IF IT'S TEN YEARS IN THE FUTURE, IS THIS SET UP THE SAME WAY OR WILL WE EVENTUALLY HAND IT ALL OVER TO THEM? I KNOW IN APACHE JUNCTION, WHICH IS INCORPORATED ALSO, WE'VE DONE SEVERAL LARGE PROJECTS WHICH WE'VE WORKED HAND IN HAND, SO THEY'RE JUST NOT UP AND READY TO DO THIS YET ON THEIR OWN. CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR THAT'S CORRECT. THEY'RE NOT MANAGING THEIR OWN FLOODPLAIN RIGHT NOW. WE WOULD PROBABLY LOOK TO THEM TO TO HANDLE MOST OF THE PROJECTS WITHIN THE TOWN. IF THEY INTEND TO DO THOSE PROJECTS, WE WOULD PARTNER WITH THEM, AS WE DO WITH ALL OF THE AGENCIES WITHIN PINAL COUNTY. BUT LARGELY WE TRY AND FOCUS OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS ON THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS. THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN BUDGETS DO THE WORK, BUT WE WILL WORK WITH THEM. WE'LL LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES. THERE ARE A LOT OF WHAT'S IDENTIFIED IN INCORPORATED. SAN TAN VALLEY WILL PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THEY CAN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS AS THEY COME THROUGH. IT WON'T NECESSARILY BE A BURDEN ON THE TOWN ITSELF TO ADDRESS, SO THEY JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF OUR EMPLOYEES YET TO HANDLE THIS. WELL, WE GOT GOOD MEN TO QUIT SHOVING THEM OVER THERE. SO, MR. CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, DOES DOES THAT CREATE IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THESE PROJECTS SOME, YOU KNOW, FIVE, TEN YEARS HOPEFULLY. WILL THAT CREATE LIKE A DAM OR SOMETHING OR IS THAT GOING TO DIVERT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY CHOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE? YES. CHAIRMAN AND SUPERVISOR. THE IF THE DEVELOPERS CHOOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN IT, THAT COULD BE A CONDITION OF THE DEVELOPMENT. WE COULD MAKE SOME OF THOSE A CONDITION OF THE DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE IF IT DOESN'T GET DONE, THEN THEN THE FLOODING CONDITIONS THAT EXIST THERE NOW WOULD CONTINUE. AND IN SOME OF THE DISCONTINUOUS AREAS THAT RYAN WAS POINTING OUT, IT. IT COMES FROM A CHANNEL, AND THEN IT SPREADS OUT INTO KIND OF A SHEET FLOW ACROSS THE PROPERTY. SO IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY UNDEVELOPABLE WITHOUT ADDRESSING THOSE. SO THAT WOULD MAKE IT WHERE IT'S WORTH THEIR TIME TO DO THAT. I WOULD, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT IS ONE REQUIREMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD AT WITH THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE COME INTO THIS AREA. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE HAD A FULL GRASP OF WHAT WE WERE DEALING WITH, THOUGH, AND WITH THE STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT AS IT MOVES FORWARD, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE GAPS AND THAT'S WHAT'S TAKING PLACE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY DID GET A GOOD GUY OVER AT SAN TAN VALLEY. SO CHRIS IS ON TOP OF STUFF THAT HE'S REALLY UNDERSTANDS THIS STUFF. AND IT'S ENCOURAGING TO KNOW THAT HE REALLY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING WITH SKYLINE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS ARE, IS RIGHT THERE ON SKYLINE ROAD IN THAT REGION RIGHT THERE. AND SO I DON'T SEE THEM NOT DOING THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH DEVELOPMENT AS IT'S COMING AND MAKING DEVELOPMENT THEMSELVES [00:40:03] PARTICIPATE. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT BUT YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE, RIGHT? WE JUST LOOK IN THE CRYSTAL BALL. WE ALL ARE. THAT'S RIGHT. SUPERVISOR MILLER, YOU HAVE A COMMENT. I CAN SEE YOU CAN TELL CAN'T. I CAN JUST SEE A BUBBLE OVER MY HEAD. OVER YOUR HEAD? YEAH. IT'S IT'S WHAT'S FOR SURE. IN THE FUTURE IT WON'T BE CHEAPER. OKAY. THESE THINGS COST A LOT OF MONEY. AND EVEN WHEN WE GET THE PLANS DONE, WHEN WE THINK WE GOT TO A PLAN OF ATTACK WHERE WE CAN MITIGATE SOME OF THIS STUFF, IT JUST IT'S JUST MIND BOGGLING WHAT THE COST IS TO TRY AND TO PUT THESE PROJECTS TOGETHER, BUT GET THE PLAN FIRST AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE IS WE'VE GOT SO MUCH STATE LAND IN OUR AREA. AND I ALWAYS GO BACK TO THIS EXPERIENCE, WHENEVER WE DID THE EXTENSION OF GANSLER ROAD AND TIED IT IN TO HUNT HIGHWAY, WE HAD TO PUT UP 38, $40 MILLION JUST FOR LAND ACQUISITION AND ALL THE WORK AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'LL NEVER SEE THAT MONEY BACK. AND THAT WAS WE HAD TO BUY AND PURCHASE THAT LAND FROM THE STATE TO IMPROVE THE FLOODING ISSUES, THAT ALL THAT DID WAS IMPROVE THEIR LAND. AND WE'LL NEVER SEE ANY OF THAT MONEY BACK. AND SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK ON A LOT OF OUR PART RIGHT HERE IS GETTING WITH STATE LAND AND MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE DO THESE KIND OF PROJECTS, THAT WE SOMEHOW GET REIMBURSED BACK. WE HAVE BENEFICIARIES TO WRITE FUTURE REIMBURSEMENT. YEAH. SO YEAH, LISTENING, AT LEAST WE GET IT BACK. I THINK WE WORK ON THE LEGISLATURE THERE. YEAH, I AGREE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO REALLY PURSUE THIS OCTOBER, DRILL A BIG HOLE IN THE GROUND AND HAVE IT ALL GO INTO THE GROUND. THAT'S WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. THAT'S THAT THAT'S EVEN BETTER. A GIANT BIG HOLE STRAIGHT DOWN. I'LL TELL YOU, THESE DEVELOPERS, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THEY'RE DOING DRYWALLS ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS FOR IT IS TO HELP BRING IT BACK INTO OUR WATER TABLE. SO ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. PLUMB AT THIS TIME? NO I'M GOOD. WHAT'S THAT DRILL. BIG HOLES. THAT'S IT. YEAH. DRILL. BIG HOLES. THAT'S THE DIRECTION. THERE YOU GO. OKAY, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. PLUMB. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WILL. WE WILL NOW ADJOURN THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING AND RECONVENE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WORK SESSION MEETING. AT THIS TIME, THERE'S NO MORE BUSINESS BEFORE THE BOARD FOR THIS MEETING IS * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.