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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:08]

ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE TODAY. I'M LIKE IT'S LIKE, MUST BE REALLY A BORING MEETING COMING UP HERE. OKAY, SO IF EVERYBODY PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. WE APPRECIATE IT. SUPERVISOR MILLER, THAT'S YOU TO. ALL RIGHT. SO AS A REMINDER, OUR VETERANS DAY CEREMONY WILL TAKE PLACE TODAY AT 3:00 IN THE CEREMONIAL COURTROOM. AND WE INVITE EVERYONE TO JOIN US AS WE HONOR THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED OUR NATION. THE INVOCATION THIS MORNING WILL BE OFFERED BY PASTOR JERRY STORES FROM THE SUN AND LUTHERAN CHURCH, CASA GRANDE. PASTOR STORES IS A US NAVY VETERAN AND WE THANK HIM FOR HIS SERVICE. IN THE ABSENCE OR I'M SORRY, WRONG WORD. ANYWAY, THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY SUPERVISOR MILLER LEADING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THOSE THAT WISH TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE STAND. LET US PRAY.

ETERNAL GOD, CREATOR AND RULER OF ALL, GRACIOUSLY REGARD THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SET IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY AMONG US, INCLUDING MIKE, JEFFREY, STEPHEN, JEFF, AND RICH, THAT GUIDED BY YOUR SPIRIT, THEY MAY BE HIGH IN PURPOSE WISE AND COUNSEL, FIRM AND GOOD RESOLUTION AND UNWAVERING IN DUTY THAT UNDER THEM OUR PINAL COUNTY MAY BE GOVERNED QUIETLY AND PEACEABLY. THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD, WHO LIVES AND REIGNS WITH YOU AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, ONE GOD, NOW AND FOREVER. AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WELCOME TO THE PINAL COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS NOVEMBER 4TH, 2026. REGULAR MEETING. WE ARE IN ORDER MORE OR LESS

[1. County Manager's Report (Information Only). (Leo Lew)]

OPENING ITEMS. COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN. FIRST, I WANT TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK AND REFLECT UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR COUNTY RECORDER, DEANNA LEWIS, AND A CULMINATION OF YEARS OF DEVELOPING POLICIES, PROCEDURES, STAFF TRAINING, ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE, THE FACILITY THAT HER AND HER TEAM HAVE DONE A REMARKABLE JOB OF ADMINISTERING OUR ELECTIONS, THIS ONE INCLUDED. AND SO THANK YOU TO HER. ALL OF OUR COUNTY STAFF, ALL THE POLL WORKERS, BOARD WORKERS, EVERYBODY THAT TAKES TO PULL THIS OFF. AND THEN SO I'LL READ A LITTLE BIT OF STATISTICS RELATED TO NORMALLY SHE GIVES THESE DOES A GREAT JOB, BUT SHE'S OBVIOUSLY WORKING RIGHT NOW. THERE WERE 33,066 CHECK INS AT OUR POLLING LOCATIONS. THE FIRST RESULTS WERE POSTED AT 8 P.M. LAST NIGHT, WHICH INCLUDED THE EARLY BALLOTS RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE WEEKEND. ALL THE ELECTION DAY BALLOTS WERE RETURNED TO THE CENTRAL COUNT FACILITY BY 11 P.M. LAST NIGHT, AND THE ELECTION DAY TABULATION WAS COMPLETED BY 2 A.M. THIS MORNING, WITH THE RESULTS POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE. THERE ARE AROUND 7000 BALLOTS THAT HAVE BEEN SIGNATURE VERIFIED AND PROCESSED AND ARE BEING TABULATED THIS MORNING, SO WE CAN EXPECT FURTHER RESULTS TO BE UPDATED LATER TODAY. AND THEY ARE ALSO STARTING TO PROCESS OVER 23,000 LATE EARLIES AND A LITTLE UNDER 2000 PROVISIONALS. AND SO CURRENTLY, PRIOR TO THE LATE EARLIES AND PROVISIONALS, THE TURNOUT WAS AT ABOUT 44%. WOW. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM

[2. Supervisor District update(s) regarding notable current or upcoming events concerning the district (Information Only). (Jeffrey McClure)]

NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS SUPERVISOR DISTRICT UPDATES. WE'LL START WITH SUPERVISOR MILLER. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK THE ONLY THING I HAVE COMING UP THAT. BUT AS ALWAYS, SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE IS THE VETERANS DAY PARADE IN CASA GRANDE WILL BE THIS SATURDAY, I BELIEVE. IT STARTS AT 9 A.M. I WILL BE ON THE CAP FLOAT CAP ALWAYS PARTICIPATES IN THAT. SO HONORING OUR OUR OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN OVER THE YEARS IS ALWAYS A GREAT DAY. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. HAVE YOU PRACTICED YOUR WAVE? I'M WORKING ON THE WAVE. I'VE GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE HELPING ME WITH THAT. SO SUPERVISOR GOODMAN. YEAH, WE OUR CELEBRATION TODAY FOR OUR VETERANS. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE OUR VETERANS AND THOSE THAT HAVE SERVED IN OUR MILITARY, PAY OUR RESPECT AND HONOR THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE THAT THEY'VE

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GIVEN. YESTERDAY, I SPENT TIME GOING AROUND TO THE VARIOUS POLLS AND TALKING TO SOME OF THE POLL WORKERS. AND, YOU KNOW, IN MY DISTRICT, THINGS WENT REALLY WELL. ALL OF THEM TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE SMOOTHNESS OF EVERYTHING. WE DID HAVE A LITTLE SOME GLITCHES, BUT THEY WERE TAKEN CARE OF VERY QUICKLY, AND THEY COULD CALL THE HOTLINE VERY FAST AND BE ABLE TO GET ANY ISSUES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE RESOLVED VERY FAST. SO DANA DID A GOOD JOB AND HER TEAM. THANK YOU SIR. SUPERVISOR VITIELLO. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. YEAH, THANK YOU VETERANS OUT HERE TODAY. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY. SAME THING. I ACTUALLY LISTENED TO MR. SERDY.

HE GAVE ME THE ADVICE TO GO AND VISIT THE POLLS. AND IT WAS AMAZING. MY POLL IN MARICOPA, THE PARTICULAR OFFICE THAT I'M IN, WAS PACKED FOR 8 TO 10 HOURS. IT WAS AMAZING HOW BUSY THE TURNOUT WAS, AND I TOLD YOU I WAS COMING AFTER YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I CAME IN LAST THE FOR THE PRIMARY. BUT AND I VISITED HIM AND I DID THE SAME THING. AND I WENT TO ALL THE POLLS AND THANKED EVERYBODY IN MY DISTRICT. AND IT WAS, IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. THE POLL WORKERS WERE, YOU KNOW, READY TO GO ON TIME. THINGS WERE GOING REALLY SMOOTH. I MEAN, IT WAS AMAZING. NO ONE COMPLAINED ABOUT ANYTHING. THE LINES WERE COMPLETELY STEADY.

SO DANA HAD A CREW AND EVERY POLL WORKER DID AN AMAZING JOB. AND I WANT TO THANK THEM. I HAD A GREAT CSA MEETING LAST WEEK. IT WAS A VIRTUAL MEETING ABOUT POWER, WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT TO PINAL COUNTY. IT WAS ABOUT GAS POWER, SOLAR BATTERY, EVERYTHING THAT YOU COULD IMAGINE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND IT WAS WE HAD SOME EXPERTS ON, WHICH WAS EXCELLENT TO, TO SIT AND LISTEN AND LEARN CONTINUOUSLY OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I ALSO ATTENDED THE COOLIDGE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DINNER AWARDS, WHERE THAT'S SMALL BUSINESSES WERE AWARDED FOR THEIR EXCELLENCE. THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT. THE PLACE WAS PACKED. IT WAS ABOUT AT LEAST 150, 200 PEOPLE THERE. SO IT WAS GREAT TO ATTEND THAT AND SEE THAT ALSO. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR IN THE CITY OF MARICOPA, WE HAVE OUR VETERANS DAY PARADE ON SATURDAY. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR CLEANUP FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. SO I'LL BE ATTENDING CLEANUPS, VETERANS DAY PARADES, AND JUST DOING WHAT I DO. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHAIRMAN, SUPERVISOR.

STURDY. SO YEAH, ON THE SATURDAY THE SEVENTH, THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF GOING ON IN GOLD CANYON STARTING AT 9:00 IS THE ARTIST OF THE SUPERSTITIONS. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL OVER THE WHOLE FOOTHILL AREA. IF YOU JUST DRIVE, YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING. THEN AT 10:00 AND SOME OF THESE, THESE ARE NEW, NEW ITEMS FOR ME. I'M NOT SURE WHERE AND HOW AT SHEPHERD CANYON CHURCH THEY'RE DOING. THEY'RE GOING TO RECYCLE AND RETIRE FLAGS, RECYCLE HEARING AIDS AND EYEGLASSES. THAT'S A VERY WORTHWHILE ADVANCE EVENT.

THEN AT 12:00, AT 6640 SOUTH KINGS RANCH ROAD, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT LOCATION IS. THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED THE LONGEST TABLE, WHERE YOU CAN GO HAVE A FREE MEAL. AND I THINK IT'S JUST TO UNITE THE COMMUNITY AND GET EVERYBODY TO KNOW EACH OTHER. AND I TOO, WENT AROUND TO THE POLL. I WENT TO 15 LOCATIONS. I WAS VERY WELCOMED AT 14 OF THEM. ONE OF THEM HAD A PROBLEM WITH MISHKA. OTHER THAN THAT, THEY WERE THEY WERE GLAD. AND I WAS JUST ASKING, YOU KNOW, HOW IS IT GOING? DID EVERYBODY SHOW UP? WERE THERE ANY PROBLEMS? AND I DO GET FEEDBACK THAT I'LL HAND OFF TO THE COUNTY RECORDER. LIKE IT GOT DARK SO EARLY. A LOT OF THE PLACES WERE VERY NOT WELL LIT COME 6:00. SO I GOT SOME IDEAS FOR HOW TO LIGHT THOSE UP FOR THE LAST HOUR. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE POLLING LOCATIONS. A LOT OF THESE PLACES, IT'S IT'S A MISERABLE DAY. AND THE CHURCHES AND THE, THE REC HALLS OF THE COMMUNITIES AND PARKS, THEY GIVE UP THEIR LOCATION AND IT DISRUPTS LIFE THERE. AND SO I WANT TO THANK ALL THESE FOLKS.

IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE FOLKS GIVING UP THEIR LOCATIONS, THE ELECTIONS WOULD NOT GO NEARLY AS SMOOTHLY AS THEY DO. AND THE SCHOOLS, A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL THERE, WHICH IS A BURDEN ON THE KIDS. BUT IT ALSO REMINDS THE KIDS, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON? WE'RE VOTING. THAT'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO DO WHEN I GET OLDER. SO IT'S A GOOD LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYBODY. SO THANKS AGAIN TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT GIVE THEIR LOCATIONS. THEY GET TO DO NOT HAVE TO DO. IT'S THE PARENT THING. YOU DON'T SAY HAVE TO. SO YOU GET TO, OKAY, WELL, MY DAY YESTERDAY WAS FAIRLY QUIET. I DID HANG AROUND HERE IN FLORENCE AND I WAS OVER AT THE ELECTION CENTER WATCHING THE OPERATIONS GO AND LISTENING TO COMPLAINTS OR FORTUNATELY, NO COMPLAINTS OR VERY FEW. AND THAT WAS NICE. SO, YOU KNOW, I DO KUDOS TO DANA AND HER CREW AND, AND CORY REDDING AND SITTING OUT THERE AND ALL SEE ALL THE I DON'T SEE OTHER FACES,

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BUT JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALL THERE. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HANGING OUT ALL DAY.

I KNOW THAT'S A NO SLEEP DAY. THAT'S NO FUN. SO THANK YOU ALL. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER

[3. Discussion/approval/disapproval of Purchasing Division Report - November 4, 2026, and authorizing the Chairman to execute all necessary documents. (Traci Gorman/Angeline Woods)]

THREE DISCUSSION APPROVAL DISAPPROVAL OF THE PURCHASING DIVISION REPORT. MISS GORMAN, I SEE YOU OUT THERE. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIRMAN AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TRACY GORMAN PURCHASING MANAGER. AND THIS IS THE PURCHASING DIVISION REPORT FOR NOVEMBER 4TH OF 2026. IN THIS REPORT, THE BOARD IS REQUESTED TO APPROVE ONE CONTRACT AWARD FOR IFB 266231 FOR CASA GRANDE RESIDENTIAL REFUGE SERVICES. WE ARE REQUESTING THE BOARD APPROVE FIVE COMPETITION AND PRACTICALS OVER $100,000 PER PROCUREMENT CODE. SECTION PC1-502. AND LASTLY, WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL OF ONE COOPERATIVE PURCHASE REQUISITION OVER $250,000. THAT'S IT. THAT WAS IT. THAT WAS LIKE THE CROWD. IT'S LIKE NOTHING. OKAY. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, FROM MISS GORMAN HEARING? SEEING NONE. THEN MAY I GET A MOTION, PLEASE, MR. CHAIR? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE PURCHASING DIVISION REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 4TH, 2026 AS PRESENTED. I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I. I OPPOSED HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU, MISS GORMAN. HAVE A

[4. CONSENT ITEMS]

GREAT DAY. THIS BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS CONSENT ITEMS A THROUGH J. ALL ITEMS INDICATED ALPHABETICALLY BELOW WILL BE HANDLED BY A SINGLE VOTE AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. UNLESS A BOARD MEMBER OR COUNTY MANAGER OBJECTS AT THE TIME THE AGENDA ITEM IS CALLED. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT THE BOARD WISHES TO PULL AT THIS TIME? I'M GOING TO PULL ITEM C. ANY OTHERS? NOPE. COUNTY MANAGER NONE. IN THAT CASE, MAY I GET A MOTION PLEASE? FOR ITEMS A THROUGH J MINUS C? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS A THROUGH J MINUS C. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I. I OPPOSED HEARING NONE. MOTION

[4.C. Discussion/approval/disapproval giving the County Manager authority to retain outside legal counsel to represent the Board of Supervisors with regard to determination of a potential conflict with the County Attorney, and, if determined, engagement of outside conflict counsel to provide legal advice relating to the handling of the County’s response to a public records request, a matter for which the County Attorney has retained his own legal counsel and which involves the employment of an individual by the County Attorney. (Jeffrey McClure)]

PASSES. THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM C. LOST. IT WAS RIGHT THERE. ITEM C IS A DISCUSSION APPROVAL DISAPPROVAL GIVING THE COUNTY MANAGER AUTHORITY TO RETAIN OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL TO REPRESENT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH WITH REGARD TO DETERMINATION OF A POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND IF DETERMINED, ENGAGE OUTSIDE CONFLICT COUNSEL TO PROVIDE LEGAL ADVICE RELATING TO THE HANDLING OF THE COUNTY'S RESPONSE TO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, A MATTER FOR WHICH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS RETAINED HIS OWN LEGAL COUNSEL AND WHICH INVOLVES THE EMPLOYMENT BY OF AN INDIVIDUAL BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. SO WE GET A LOT OF COMMENTS ON THINGS LIKE THIS. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PULL IT OUT AS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS ITEM, I'VE JUST GOT A STATEMENT HERE. THIS ITEM REFERS TO A SITUATION INVOLVING AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS EMPLOYED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, FOR WHICH COMPLAINTS HAD BEEN RECEIVED, AND FOR ISSUES RELATED TO EMPLOYMENT DOCUMENTS.

THE FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER, A PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST WAS RECEIVED BY THE COUNTY FOR INFORMATION ON THE SUBJECT. EMPLOYEE MR. MILLER WAS CONTACTED FOR ASSISTANCE. TWO WEEKS LATER, HR REACHED OUT TO MR. MILLER ABOUT THE PRR, THE RECORD REQUEST AND LEGAL GUIDANCE ON THE ISSUE. THEY WERE TOLD TO ROUTE REQUEST THROUGH MR. LASOTA, MR. LEGALS, MR. MILLER'S LEGAL REPRESENTATION. SO THAT BRINGS US HERE TODAY WITH THIS ITEM.

WE'RE. WE'RE PLACED IN A POSITION OF NEEDING TO RETAIN OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S TRULY IS A CONFLICT, AND IF SO, ENGAGE CONFLICT COUNSEL TO ADVISE. HUMAN RESOURCES AND THE BOSS ON THIS SITUATION. THIS DOES NOT MEAN WE'RE ADVERSARIES. JUST GIVEN THAT THE UNDERLYING. I'M SORRY, THIS DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE ADVERSARIES, JUST GIVEN THE UNDERLYING MATTER, MR. MILLER MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REPRESENT US. AND SO WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU READ FACEBOOK OR X. I TRY NOT TO, BUT THERE'S A FACELESS KEYBOARD WARRIOR GOT AN AMERICAN FLAG PICTURE AND PROBABLY A PSEUDONYM AS WELL THAT CLAIMS I ME WON'T TAKE NO.

I NEED TO BE STOPPED AND I'M SPENDING EXTRA MONEY. OBVIOUSLY THIS PERSON DOESN'T KNOW HOW THE SYSTEM OPERATES, OR MAYBE THEY DO, AND THEY ONLY WANT TO SPEW DISCORD MISINFORMATION TO STIR THE POT. SO AS CHAIR, I SIT HERE WITH THE BIGGEST TARGET AND I'M THE ONE WHO GETS

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LAMBASTED FOR WHATEVER OCCURS. BUT THIS IS NOT SOME PERSONAL VENDETTA AGAINST THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. AND AND SOME WOULD DISAGREE, BUT THIS IS THE BOARD TAKING THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE COUNTY TO HEART AND CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD. CONFLICT COUNSEL IS ONLY RETAINED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS WHEN THERE IS THE INABILITY OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO GIVE US LEGAL ADVICE ON A PARTICULAR ISSUE. IT IS NOT A WHOLESALE REMOVAL OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IN THE DAY TO DAY BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. TO BE CLEAR, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS TWO SIDES PROSECUTION AND CIVIL. THE CIVIL DIVISION IS CRUCIAL TO THE OPERATIONAL ABILITY TO. THE COUNTY'S DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS. ALL DEPARTMENTS RELY ON THEIR ADVICE TO STEER CLEAR OF LEGAL THREATS AND ISSUES, SO I DON'T. AND SO THERE WE ARE. SO THAT'S IT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WITH THAT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD SUPERVISOR MILLER, IF YOU COULD AMEND YOUR STATEMENT THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING COUNTY ATTORNEY MILLER AND NOT SUPERVISOR MILLER IN THE BEGINNING OF YOUR STATEMENT? OKAY. YEAH. THAT ONE. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S TRUE. I WANT THAT TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR. YEAH.

NOT YOU. YEAH. OKAY. BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID MILLER. I SAID, MILLER, I KNOW, OKAY, SO NOT MILLER OVER HERE TO MY LEFT. MILLER ACROSS THE STREET DOWN THE WAY. OKAY. I THINK I THINK OUR VOTE WILL WILL PROBABLY ROLL MILLER OUT ANYWAY. SUPERVISOR MILLER OUT. OKAY.

OKAY, SUPERVISOR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I GOT SOME PHONE CALLS ON THIS, AND I DO APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE WE HAVE THAT OUT THERE. AND AGAIN, IT'S FOR THE TRANSPARENCY AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE THIS CAME FROM. SO I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU DID DO THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND SO DO THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO.

SO OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. IN THAT CASE. IN THAT CASE, DID I GET A MOTION ON ITEM C, PLEASE? MR. CHAIR, I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM C AS PRESENTED. I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND? THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I. I OPPOSED HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.

[5. Meeting of the Pinal County Flood Control District Board of Directors. (Joshua Plumb/Joe Ortiz)]

THAT THIS IS GOING QUICK HERE. THAT MOVES US TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO.

RECESS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING AND CONVENE THE PINAL COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING. AND THAT IS ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH ARE CONSENT ITEMS A AND B, ALL ITEMS INDICATED ALPHABETICALLY BELOW WILL BE HANDLED BY A SINGLE VOTE AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, UNLESS A BOARD MEMBER OR COUNTY MANAGER OBJECTS AT THE TIME. THE ITEM IS CALLED. ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT WISH TO PULL ITEMS, EITHER A OR B FROM THIS AGENDA? HEARING. SEEING NONE. COUNTY MANAGER. OKAY. ACTUALLY, MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST TAKE SUPERVISOR GOODMAN ON ITEM AND I COULD. IS IT OKAY IF I GO AHEAD AND PULL IT. BUT GO AHEAD AND TALK TO ITEM B? SURE. IS THAT OKAY? JUST TALK AWAY. OKAY.

GOOD LUCK. YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT OF THE RAIN THAT WE'VE GOTTEN AND EVERYTHING ELSE OF THAT NATURE, OUR OUR STAFF HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OF MITIGATING SOME OF THE WATER ISSUES AND HELPING AND ASSIST THAT OVER THE YEAR, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, SO THAT WE'VE HAD VERY MINIMAL FLOODS, WE GOT A LOT OF FLOODS, EVERYBODY GOT A LOT OF FLOODS. BUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS SPARKED THAT THE DRAINAGE ISSUE AND ADOPTING THE SAN TAN VALLEY AREA DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN. AND KUDOS TO OUR STAFF AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE THE WORK TO DO THIS. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. YEAH, WE DID HAVE SOME FLOODING UP IN SUPERVISOR SURTEES DISTRICT THIS WEEKEND. YEAH. BUT YEAH, LUCKILY IT DIDN'T COME ALL DOWN AT ONCE. IT CAME OVER THREE DAYS. WE GOT LIKE AN INCH, THEN A PAUSE, THEN A HALF INCH, THEN AN INCH AND A HALF, WHICH ALLOWED US TO ACCEPT IT OR TO HOLD IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. QUEEN VALLEY WAS RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF HAVING TO EVACUATE. BUT. BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S SO MUCH BETTER WHEN IT COMES OVER A PERIOD OF TIME LIKE THAT. AND OF COURSE, IT'S HELA COUNTY, BUT GLOBE, THEY DIDN'T GET IT AS BAD EITHER BECAUSE IT IT TOOK IT IN. AND GOOD NEWS IS IT'S FILLING THE LAKES UP. YES. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, SO WE DON'T GET TOO FAR OFF TOPIC HERE. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION, I'LL LET YOU DO THAT. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS, ALL THE CONSENT ITEMS A AND B AS PRESENTED. WE HAVE A MOTION AS YOUR SECOND. SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. I WILL NOW ADJOURN THE PINAL COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL BORDER DISTRICT. FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING AND RECONVENE. RECONVENE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING.

[6. Call to the Public]

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THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS CALL TO THE PUBLIC. AND A CALL TO THE PUBLIC IS THE TIME PERIOD FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, TO PROVIDE PUBLIC INPUT RELATING TO SUBJECT MATTER WITHIN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AUTHORITY OR JURISDICTION. THOSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD NEED NOT REQUEST PERMISSION IN ADVANCE. ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE LIMITED TO DIRECTING STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER OR RESCHEDULING IT FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND DECISION AT A LATER DATE. I PRESENTLY HAVE RECEIVED TWO CARDS AND WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE COME UP AND TELL US GENERALLY WHERE YOU LIVE AND OBVIOUSLY STATE YOUR NAME. AND I WILL START WITH MISS HARTLE. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND SUPERVISORS NANCY HARTLE FROM SAN TAN VALLEY. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT OUR ELECTIONS EARLY VOTING OFFICE. AND DANA LEWIS. I WORKED THERE FOR TWO YEARS, AND I THINK SHE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB AS USUAL. I'VE NEVER HAD ANY DOUBTS ABOUT THAT FACILITY OR THAT COUNTY CLERK OR RECORDER RATHER. SO KUDOS. AND I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS ON THAT. I'M HERE DESPITE BEING BLOCKED ON THE. I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT IF THERE WAS A MEETING, AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO A COUPLE OF THE SUPERVISORS AND THEY'RE LOOKING INTO THAT. I THOUGHT FOR, YOU KNOW, THEY COULDN'T POSSIBLY NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM ME. WHY WOULD THEY BLOCK ME? SO ANYWAY, I THINK IT'S SOME KIND OF A GLITCH THAT MAYBE WE CAN FIGURE OUT LATER, BUT I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT IF THERE WAS A MEETING TODAY. SO I'VE GOT SOME CHICKEN SCRATCHING HERE I'M GOING TO TRY TO RUN THROUGH. I'M HOPING THIS ELECTION DOES SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT WHITE CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM AND KINGS AND CORRUPTION, CHAOS AND CRUELTY ARE NOT WHAT AMERICANS WANT. WE ARE A NATION OF MANY RELIGIONS. THIS ELECTION SHOWS THAT ALL TRUE RELIGIONS ARE WELCOME IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, BUT NOT CULTS LIKE WHITE CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM. WE WORSHIP GOD, NOT GUNS. I THANK MY LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR OPENING PEOPLE'S MINDS, HEARTS AND EYES TO THIS. I HOPE AND PRAY WE CAN UNDO AS MUCH DAMAGE AS POSSIBLE OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE. PEOPLE HAVE DIED AND CONTINUE TO DIE IN THE US AND ALL OVER THE WORLD DUE TO THE CRUELTY AND CURRENT REGIME, AND I CALL IT A REGIME. INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED ON OUR STREETS BY FAKE LAW ENFORCEMENT. UNDER THE PRETENSE OF ICE. WE HAVE CUT AID TO THE POOREST OF OUR COUNTRIES. ONLY 1% OF OUR GDP WAS WAS HELPING STARVING INFANTS AND PREVENTING HIV TRANSMISSION. MY GOOD FRIEND SAID TO ME ONCE, ROBERTO, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WHEN OR TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THE ELECTION WENT SOUTH, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, HE SAID, NANCY, YOU'RE A FIGHTER, SO YOU NEED TO STAY AND FIGHT. SO WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THE FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY IS NEVER ENDING. I, FOR ONE, WILL CONTINUE TO STAND STRONG. AS THE SAYING GOES, FREEDOM IS NOT FREE. I HOPE YOU WILL PURSUE THE INVESTIGATION OF FORMER SHERIFF MARK LAMB. I STILL DON'T KNOW IF HE WON HIS ELECTION OR NOT. I THOUGHT HE LOST AND I'M HOPING HE DOES. THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. BUT ROBERTO HAS ASKED YOU OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I HOPE YOU'RE LOOKING INTO THAT. VOTERS HAVE BEEN CLEAR THAT WE DON'T WANT SUCH SLEAZY PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE. AND SO I'M HOPING WE CAN WELCOME ELIZABETH LEE FINALLY. I NEVER HEARD BACK FROM CHAIRMAN MCCLURE, AND MAYBE I MISSED IT. I ASKED YOU ABOUT THAT, OVERLOOKING THE TRANSLATION ON THAT PRAYER, AND I NEVER HEARD BACK FROM YOU.

BUT MAYBE YOU SAID SOMETHING AT A AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING. I DIDN'T FIND IT. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE BLOCKED TRANSFER, THE BLOCKED STATUS FOR ME, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. AND THAT ENDS MY STATEMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO MR. MCCAIN. GOOD MORNING SUPERVISORS. MY NAME IS BARRY MCCAIN FROM CITY OF MARICOPA. I WANT TO START OUT BY SAYING THANK YOU TO HUD MEETING WITH ME ON MONDAY NIGHT. WE'RE ADDRESSING THE DRAINAGE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT. THE ELECTIONS. WE'LL SEE. WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. BUT I'M GOING TO BE COUNTING ON SUPERVISORS MCCLURE AND MILLER STRONGLY. THE SESSION COMING UP, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL NEW PEOPLE HERE. BUT WE STILL GOT TO REPRESENT PINAL COUNTY AND EX-NAVY. AND WITH TOP GUN, I'M USED TO GETTING THINGS DONE. SO I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL DO THAT. BUT WE'LL BE THERE FOR THE PEOPLE. AND I THINK I THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE, OUR DIE HARDS. THANK YOU. BYE. THAT BRINGS ME TO THE END OF THE CARDS THAT I HAVE. ARE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE THE BOARD? MA'AM? COME ON UP. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO WAVE TOO HARD. I COULD SEE YOU BACK THERE. EAGER THOUGH. MY NAME IS BOBBY CRAIG. I'M FROM THE CACTUS FOREST AREA, AND I THANK

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YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. EVERYONE'S HERE. I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK REAL QUICK ON ON THE FLOODING COMMENT. AND I WAS GOING TO SAY I DROVE IN TEN MILES THIS MORNING AND THE COUNTY HAD ALREADY CLEARED THE DIRT OFF THE ROADS. THEY WERE CLEAR. THERE WERE DUMP TRUCKS THERE. THEY WERE PICKING UP THE SAND FROM THE WASHES. AND I WAS JUST VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE COUNTY MAINTENANCE. SO I WANTED TO ADD THAT, I GUESS, AND I ALSO WANTED TO THANK YOU. MR. MCCLURE, FOR YOUR YOUR VERBALLY GIVING SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FOR C BECAUSE I LOOKED THERE WERE NO SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, BUT YOU VERBALLY GAVE THEM. SO I, I THANK YOU. MY QUESTION ON THAT, THOUGH, IS TO HIRE ANOTHER ATTORNEY WHEN WE HAVE 42 PAID ATTORNEYS IN PINAL COUNTY, AND I HAVE THE LIST OF OF THAT, 42 ATTORNEYS, BUT I'M SURE YOU CAN GET THE LIST A LOT FASTER THAN IT TOOK ME TO GET THE LIST. BUT 42 PAID ATTORNEYS AND I KNOW THEY'RE IN CERTAIN DIVISIONS.

THEY HAVE SPECIALTIES, BUT YOU DON'T GET TO BE AN ATTORNEY UNLESS YOU HAVE STUDIED A LOT BROADER PERSPECTIVE. SO I CAN'T CAN'T QUITE FIGURE OUT WHY WE'RE HIRING AND SPENDING TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR MORE ATTORNEYS WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE 42 IN OUR COUNTY. PICK ONE, PICK A GROUP, WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M A CONSERVATIVE PERSON. SO THAT'S JUST MY IDEA. OKAY. AND. I GUESS I, FOR ONE, WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE AS A GROUP, LIKE IN A TOWN HALL MEETING THAT IF ANYTHING I SAY NEEDS CORRECTING OR MORE, YOU GIVE MORE INFORMATION. I'M OPEN FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THE WHOLE PICTURE WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, YOUR SAYING SOMETHING, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OR AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE I CALLED PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF A WHILE BACK BECAUSE MY QUESTION WAS ON THE FINAL REPORT THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON. ARE THEY GOING TO GIVE IT TO US IN SEGMENTS OR ARE THEY ARE THEY GOING TO WAIT LIKE WE DID LAST TIME? AND WE HAVE THE WHOLE THING TO ADDRESS THE ONE THAT WAS TRASHED. THE PERSON I TALKED TO WAS A DIRECTOR ON THE STAFF, AND I KEPT ASKING. I SAID, SO IS THE REPORT THAT WAS SUPPOSEDLY TRASHED? IS THAT BEING USED AS PART OF YOUR INFORMATION? AND I WAS TOLD THAT THEY GET THEIR INFORMATION FROM MANY DIFFERENT, OH, CRAP, DIFFERENT PLACES. OKAY, I GUESS I'M FINISHED. SO. BUT I'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.

THANK YOU, MISS GREGG. ANY OTHERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE MR. RACK? NO. RICK FROM ELOY. FIRST, IN REGARD TO RETAINING FURTHER LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING THE ANTICS OF COUNTY ATTORNEY MILLER, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AN UPDATED ACCOUNT OF THE COST TO THE COUNTY AT THE EXPENSE OF POSITIVE WAYS THAT MONEY COULD BE SPENT. YESTERDAY, A BLUE WAVE CRASHED ACROSS THE NATION, THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF VOTERS, A REPUDIATION OF DONALD TRUMP'S POLICIES THAT HAVE INCREASED THE COST OF LIVING, PUT THE NATION INTO A NEEDLESS AND COSTLY WAR, ENABLED A MIND BOGGLING LEVEL OF GRIFTING AND CORRUPTION AND LAWLESSNESS. VOTES FOCUSED ON HIS CURRENT AND WANNABE ENABLERS, AND NOT THE VARIOUS BOOGEYMEN THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT THERE BY SUPPORTERS OF TRUMP'S MAGA AGENDA. WHILE ALL THE RESULTS ARE NOT FINAL, THAT WAVE HIT ARIZONA'S CONGRESSIONAL AND STATE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATIONS AS WELL.

WITH THAT IN MIND, I HAVE TWO ASKS OF THIS BOARD AND THE COUNTY'S VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.

FIRST, IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY, WORK WITH CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS, GOVERNOR HOBBS AND THE NEWLY ELECTED DEMOCRAT LEGISLATORS TO BETTER THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA AND PINAL COUNTY. WITH POWER UNIFIED, WITH THE DEMOCRATS VETOING FRIVOLOUS AND OR HARMFUL BILLS COMING FROM THE LEGISLATURE WILL NO LONGER BE NEEDED, AND LEGISLATION FOCUSED ON BENEFITING OF THE PEOPLE WILL BE THE NORM. I URGE THE COUNTY TO BE A PART OF THAT.

SECOND, I ASK YOU TO EXTEND INVITATIONS TO NEWLY ELECTED DEMOCRATS TO SPEAK AT BOARD MEETINGS, GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU AND THE RESIDENTS OF PINAL COUNTY ABOUT THEIR POSITIONS AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TOGETHER WITH YOU TO CREATE NEW AND INNOVATIVE

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SUCCESSES, AS WELL AS SOLVE PROBLEMS WITH SOUND AND CREATIVE SOLUTIONS. THIS IS THE DAWN OF A NEW ERA, A BRIGHTER FUTURE THAT I URGE THE COUNTY TO BE AN ACTIVE PART OF. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVEN'T USED THE FULL THREE MINUTES TODAY. I DON'T FEEL IT'S NECESSARY TODAY. LESS IS MORE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE THE BOARD THIS MORNING? MR. ROUVELAS, YOUR HAND WAS RAISED BY YOUR NEIGHBOR. I SAW THAT.

HE JUST POINTED AND SAID, GET UP THERE, I SAW THAT. ROBERTO ROUVELAS, RESIDENT OF GOLD CANYON. I KEEP REFERENCING ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY AT THESE MEETINGS. AND THE CONSENT ITEM SEE UNDERSCORES THE COST BOTH FINANCIALLY AND EMOTIONALLY, TO THOSE OF US WHO LOOK FOR CLARITY FROM THE COUNTY'S COUNSEL. AND SO I ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO EXERCISE ITS USE OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO PREVENT. LESS CREDIBILITY FROM THE PUBLIC WITH REGARD TO ISSUES WHERE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, MILLER, IS INVOLVED. AT THE PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING.

IN YOUR ABSENCE, MR. CHAIRMAN, ACTING CHAIR, VICE CHAIRMAN, SERDY. ENCOURAGED THE COUNTY MANAGER TO PROVIDE A REPORT ON THE AUTHORITY FOR THE BOARD TO RESPOND TO MY CONSTANT REQUESTS FOR A FORENSIC AUDIT OF THE PINAL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY OF EXPLOITATION OF THAT OFFICE BY THE PREVIOUS TWO SHERIFFS, PAUL BABEU AND MARK LAMB. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO FOLLOW UP ON THE TIMELINE THAT JEFF SERDY OBSERVED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT HE ASKED FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER TO PROVIDE A REPORT ON ITS AUTHORITY FOR SUCH AN AUDIT AT THE NEXT OR TWO FOLLOWING MEETINGS. THIS IS THE NEXT MEETING. SO I HOPE AT THE NEXT MEETING, THE COUNTY MANAGER WILL PROVIDE A PUBLIC REPORT ON YOUR AUTHORITY TO EXERCISE YOUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY BY A FORENSIC AUDIT OF THAT OFFICE TO IDENTIFY WHAT, IF ANY, WEAKNESSES ARE INSTITUTIONALLY BUILT INTO THAT OFFICE THAT HAVE PRODUCED THE CORRUPTION BY PAUL BABEU AND MARK LAMB. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ANY OTHERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE THE BOARD THIS MORNING? HEARING AND SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE CALL TO THE PUBLIC SUPERVISOR. STURDY, YOU WERE CALLED OUT. DID YOU WISH TO RESPOND? YEAH. LEO, WE WILL NEED TO HAVE THAT REPORT SOME DAY. OR JUST A CLARIFICATION.

NOT MAYBE NOT A REPORT, BUT JUST WHAT ARE THE THE ROLES? SO I THINK THAT'D BE A SIMPLE LESS THAN FIVE MINUTE PRESENTATION. I THOUGHT HE DID THAT. I THOUGHT HE DID. DIDN'T YOU? YOU DID THAT AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING. THE PREVIOUS MEETING, A PREVIOUS MEETING. I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE EXACTLY. MAYBE THE ONE BEFORE THIS OR THE ONE BEFORE THAT. I THOUGHT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP IN MY ABSENCE. I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT, MAYBE NOT, BUT I KNOW THAT. I MEAN, I'VE SEEN IT, SO I KNOW THAT IT'S THERE. AND I THOUGHT YOU HAD ALREADY BROUGHT THAT UP.

BUT MAYBE WE CAN MAYBE. MAYBE GET WITH MR. ROUVELAS AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT HE WANTS TO TO BE CLARIFIED IF. BECAUSE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY STILL SOME CONFUSION. AND LET'S SEE, LET'S LET'S ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THAT. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN MISS CRAIG.

SO JUST QUICK, QUICKLY, 42 ATTORNEYS, MOST OF THEM ARE PROSECUTORS. THERE ARE VERY FEW CIVIL ATTORNEYS. AND THIS IS A CIVIL ISSUE, NOT THE PROSECUTORIAL SIDE. SO WE HAVE

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TO STAY ON THAT SIDE. BUT THE CONFLICT ARISES WHEN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS CONFLICTED IN HAVING HIS OWN OPINION. WELL, LET'S SEE, HOW DO I SAY THAT? HOW CAN I SAY THAT, MR. GARY? GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THIS ITEM, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE ANY ADVICE. I GUESS THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE YOU KIND OF. OKAY. ANYWAY, SO MISS CRAIG, I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS IN MY OFFICE, YOU KNOW, AND I BELIEVE TRICIA GOT AHOLD OF YOU THERE. AND SO WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION. I CAN EXPLAIN THINGS A LITTLE BETTER. IT'S LONG WINDED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S IT. SO

[7. Public Hearing and discussion/approval/disapproval of Resolution No. 110426-RD26-041 ordering the vacation of a roadway identified as Assessor’s Parcel Number (APN) 502-06-016H. Supervisor District #3. (RD26-041) (Joe Ortiz)]

THAT MOVES US TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION, DISAPPROVAL, APPROVAL, DISAPPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 110426-RD26-0414. WE LOVE NUMBERS. ORDERING THE. AND THIS IS THE PART I LOVE ORDERING THE VACATION OF A ROADWAY IDENTIFIED IN THE ASSESSOR'S PARTS. I LOVE IT. WHERE ARE WE SENDING IT? YEAH, WELL, WE'LL FIND OUT HERE IN A MINUTE. YEAH. YEAH. GOOD MORNING. BOARD SUPERVISORS JOE ORTIZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGING DIRECTOR. THIS ITEM SEVEN IS A CLEANUP TYPE ITEM. I'D CALL IT IN REFERENCING A 1921 MARICOPA CASA GRANDE CONVEYANCE DOCUMENT THAT CONVEYED 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, 60 FOOT WIDE BY 2200 FOOT LONG. AND IT'S LOCATED IN SECTION 25, TEN TOWNSHIP FIVE SOUTH, RANGE FOUR EAST WESTERN SIDE OF CG CASA GRANDE. THIS REQUEST FOR A VACATION WAS BROUGHT TO US BY LARRY YOUNT. HE'S A DEVELOPER IN THAT LOCATION THAT HAS SEVERAL PARCELS THAT SURROUND THIS STRIP OF PROPERTY. LET ME BRING IT UP THERE. THAT'S, I'D CALL IT A REDDISH BROWN STRIP. I THINK IT'S 502060168 IS THE ACTUAL PARCEL. YEAH, MY GLASSES ARE BETTER. IT'S IN IN. SORRY. I APPRECIATE THE HELP. SO IT'S THAT STRIP OF PARCEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND IN IN 1921 WE RECEIVED THIS CONVEYANCE DOCUMENT FOR THAT STRIP OF PROPERTY. AND IN THAT CONVEYANCE IT DID LEAVE SOME CLOUDY INTERPRETATION OF OF WHAT THAT WHO THAT ACTUALLY CONVEYED TO. SO BACK HISTORY. YES. MR. YOUNT APPROACHED US ABOUT THE VACATION OF THIS. WHEN HE FIRST BROUGHT IT TO US. IT WAS WITHIN PINAL COUNTY'S JURISDICTION. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, IT BECAME CITY OF CASA GRANDE ANNEXED THAT LOCATION. SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT BACK AND FORTH WITH CASA GRANDE. AND IN THAT INTERPRETATION OF THAT 1921 DOCUMENTATION. SO AFTER SEVERAL BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM, WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT IT WAS NOW THAT IT'S ANNEXED, CASA GRANDE DID A QUITCLAIM ALL INTEREST TO THAT PROPERTY. THAT WAY THEY WERE OUT OF THE PICTURE. THEY COULD CLAIM ALL INTEREST TO PINAL COUNTY. SO NOW THE NEXT STEP IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS DOING THE VACATION OF THE REMAINING STRIP. THAT WAY THAT PARCEL WILL END UP BECOMING COMBINED INTO THOSE ADJOINING PARCELS FOR THAT PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. OKAY, SO NO SUNNY BEACH AND CORONAS, RIGHT? NO SUNNY BEACH. THIS IS THE ONLY BEACH YOU GET. IS THAT RIGHT THERE? IT'S THE IT'S JUST VACANT PROPERTY. SOME SAND, I GUESS. MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT NO PLANS FOR PINAL COUNTY TO EVER PUT THAT STRIP IN. AS YOU CAN SEE, BACK IN 1921, MAYBE THAT WAS THE PROPOSED ALIGNMENT OF MARICOPA CASA GRANDE HIGHWAY, BUT NEVER HAPPENED IN THAT LOCATION, THE LOCATION THAT IT IS IN TODAY, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO STAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS. THE VERY EXCITED CROWD DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. YAY! OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HEARING SEEING NONE. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? NO, NONE. IN THAT CASE, MAY I GET A MOTION, PLEASE, ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN?

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MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AS PRESENTED. I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. GOING ON VACATION? MOTION AND A SECOND FOR VACATION? I LOVE IT. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I. I OPPOSED HEARING

[Items 8 & 9]

NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. MR. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DISCUSSION. APPROVAL. DISAPPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-Z-P-030-25.

RESOLUTION APPROVING CASE PZ-P-030-25. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. ITEM NUMBER NINE WILL BE DISCUSSED TOGETHER. THE PRESENTER IS. YOU'RE NOT MR. AMAYA? NO, SORRY. CAN'T DO IT.

HE'S ON THAT VACATION. HE'S ON VACATION OUT THERE. I ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, MR. KRAUSS.

GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN MCCLURE. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THERE ARE TWO ITEMS WITH THIS. A MINOR NON MAJOR COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND A REZONING AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF OCOTILLO AND CHEF ROAD. PROJECTS REFERRED TO AS TERRIBLE'S. I'M USING THAT AS A NOUN, NOT AS AN ADJECTIVE, JUST SO YOU KNOW. THAT'S IMPORTANT. THE. SO THESE ARE THE TWO ITEMS. THE PROPERTY IS 6.93 ACRES. THE DEVELOPER. THE APPLICANT IS AN AGENT IS SHAWN LAKE OF PUGH AND LAKE. HE'S HERE THIS TODAY TO.

IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, THE NON MAJOR COMP PLAN AMENDMENT IS TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION FROM RURAL LIVING TO COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH IS PART OF THE SAN TAN VALLEY AREA SPECIAL PLAN, AND THEN TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM S R TO C2SR IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL 3.3 ACRES MINIMUM LOT SIZE ONE ONE DWELLING UNIT. IT'S LOCATED, AS I INDICATED, NORTHWEST CORNER OF CHEF AND OCOTILLO. IT'S OWNED BY MIKE AND HELEN FAMILY TRUST. THIS IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF IT. GO THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICKLY. THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY IS THE TOWN OF SAN TAN VALLEY. EAST AND WEST AND NORTH IS PINAL COUNTY. HERE'S THE PROPOSED ZONING. IT'S COMMERCIAL ZONING ON THE SOUTHWEST AND THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. THERE'S A MILITARY THE RESERVATION, EXCUSE ME, ON THE NORTH EAST CORNER. AND THEN THE NORTHWEST CORNER IS IS SURROUNDED BY THAT SR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. HERE'S THE SITE. UP BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. EXCUSE ME. THIS IS THE EXISTING LAND USES IN THE AREA.

IT'S VACANT TO THE TO THE WEST AND TO THE EAST AND TO THE NORTH IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL PREDOMINANTLY. IT'S VACANT TO THE WEST. THIS IS LOOKING AT THE PROPERTIES FROM DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE, BASICALLY, THE AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW FOR IT'S MINOR AMENDMENT, ALLOW FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE REZONED. THE PROPOSED USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE. THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE SAN TAN VALLEY SAN TAN VALLEY AREA PLAN. THERE'S TWO LOTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. LOT ONE WOULD BE A CONVENIENCE STORE. THAT'S THE TERRIBLE'S FUEL STATION. THE SEA STORE CONVENIENCE STORE IS 6000FT■!S. THERE'LL BE AN AUTOMOTIVE OR AUTO CAR WASH AND 37 PARKING SPACES, A FUTURE EV CHARGING, CHARGING SPACES AND LOT TWO WILL HAVE MEDICAL OFFICE, TWO TWO STORY MEDICAL OFFICES. APPROXIMATELY SEVEN TOTAL 17,600. ALTHOUGH IT. IT COULD BE OTHER USES OTHER THAN JUST MEDICAL OFFICE. IT COULD BE TURNS LEGAL. HERE'S THE PROPERTY WITH THE THE THE EXISTING ZONING AND THE PROPOSED ZONING. HERE'S A SITE PLAN. I DON'T HAVE THE ELEVATIONS. THE DEVELOPER HAS THE ELEVATIONS, BUT THE DEVELOPER HAS. WITH. THE CONVENIENCE STORE HAS ATTEMPTED

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TO BLEND IN WITH THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA WITH THE ELEVATIONS. I THINK A NICE JOB IT SHOWED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE TWO MEDICAL OFFICES ARE JUST TO THE WEST OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE. THE FUEL STATION. FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION. THE LAND USE IS IS THE AREA IS URBANIZING. THERE'S TWO. IT'S AT THE CORNER OF TWO ARTERIAL ROADWAYS. THE SERVICES ARE ALLOWED IN THE C2 DISTRICT TO SERVE THE IMMEDIATE AREA. IT'S COMPATIBLE IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING, BUFFERING. ACCESS THE INFRASTRUCTURE. IF IT'S NOT THERE, IT WILL BE THERE BY THE DEVELOPER. THE COMMERCIAL GROWTH MAKES SENSE. AND IT AT THE CORNER OF A TO ARTERIAL ROADWAYS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOCUSED ON TRAFFIC, THE BUILDING DESIGN, LIGHTING, NOISE AND SITE COMPATIBILITY, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 9 TO 0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS NINE ZERO TO APPROVE THE REZONING. AND THERE WERE TWO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION NOT ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY, BUT AT THE SOUTH EAST CORNER AND GENERALLY WANTED TO KEEP THE AREA RURAL. DID NOT WANT TO SEE MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THE COMP PLAN IS NO STIPULATION. THERE ARE 17 STIPULATIONS WITH THE ZONING AND IF THE BOARD WISHES TO APPROVE THE MINOR COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION AND THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE REZONING FROM SR TO C2 WITH 17 STIPULATIONS. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THE DEVELOPERS HERE, SEAN LAKE AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, MR. KRAUSE. DID THE APPLICANT WISH TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? COME ON DOWN. COME ON DOWN. GOOD MORNING, MR. LAKE. HOW ARE YOU TODAY? I FEEL LIKE I'M COMING DOWN TO BID ON A SHOWCASE. YEAH, MAYBE THAT AGES ME. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. SEAN LAKE, 1744, SOUTH VISTA HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND TERRIBLE'S, WHICH IS FIRST, WE GOT TO GET PAST THAT NAME. FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN TO A TERRIBLE'S, IT'S LIKE A BUCKY'S OR A QUICK TRIP OR IT'S A BIG, MASSIVE CONVENIENCE STORE. THEY DON'T DO THE NORMAL TRADITIONAL MOBILE OR CHEVRON. THEY DO A VERY NICE HIGH END JOB. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO A RETAIL DEVELOPMENT HERE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER. I WON'T GO OVER ALL THE STUFF THAT HARVEY DID, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. BUT I WISH TO POINT OUT THIS IS IN A GOOD LOCATION.

OCOTILLO, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RED DOT, IS A MAIN EAST WEST CORRIDOR FOR PINAL COUNTY. AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE EXTENSION OF THE SR 24 COMING DOWN JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS.

AND SO THIS WILL BE A GOOD TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR, A GOOD LOCATION FOR THIS. THERE AREN'T SERVICES OUT IN THIS AREA. AND SO WE NEED TO START TO GET SOME COMMERCIAL SERVICES OUT INTO THIS AREA. AND ON MAIN TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR HUBS. WHEN THEY CAME IN, THEY TRIED TO DESIGN SOMETHING. I'M GOING TO SKIP THROUGH THESE BECAUSE HARVEY POINTED ALL THESE OUT TO GET TO THE ELEVATIONS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING. IF THOSE HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA, THERE'S SEVERAL GAS STATIONS THAT HAVE DEVELOPED IN RURAL AREAS, ONE ON GANTZEL THAT IS MORE OF A COUNTRY STORE. LOOK. AND SO WHEN THEY CAME, I SAID, GUYS, YOU NEED TO DO A COUNTRY STORE LOOK. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE TRYING TO FIT IN WITH A COUNTRY STORE LOOK, I THINK THE ELEVATIONS HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. YOU CAN VISUALIZE NEXT TO THIS WILL BE SOME OFFICES, WHICH THERE AREN'T ANY OFFICES IN THE AREA. AND SO THOSE WILL BE NEEDED AS WELL. AND AS HARVEY POINTED OUT, THAT CAN BE MEDICAL OFFICE. IT CAN BE AN INSURANCE AGENT. IT CAN BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT I THINK IS NEEDED FOR THE AREA AND HAVING COMMERCIAL IN THIS AREA AS GROWTH HAS HAPPENED, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT HAS HAPPENED AND IS HAPPENING WILL BE DESPERATELY NEEDED. SO WE WOULD URGE YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS. THAT WAS IT. THAT'S IT. OH, OKAY. I WAS WAITING FOR THE NEXT LIKE I CAN GO INTO A 30 MINUTE DIATRIBE, BUT I DON'T GET PAID BY THE WORD. SO I'M NOT GOING TO. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? HEARING SEEING NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE SIMULTANEOUSLY. ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME? HEARING AND SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING

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AND I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION, PLEASE, UNLESS THERE'S OTHER COMMENTS. YEAH, JUST A COMMENT.

BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION, I WILL TELL YOU THIS IS ONE PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN WORKED ON BY THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION. THEY'VE COME INTO MY OFFICE. I GAVE THEM INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY COULD GO MEET WITH IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT WORKING WITH THE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE RURAL AREA. I THINK THERE WAS EVEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT PUTTING A HITCHING POST SO THAT THE KIDS COULD COME AND, AND BE ABLE TO BUY THEIR SODAS. I MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I HAD A CIRCLE K DOWN THE ROAD, AND WE'D RIDE OUR HORSES UP THERE AND USE THE HITCHING POST AND GO AND GET OUR DRINKS AND RIDE HOME. AND SO YOU RUN YOUR HORSE THROUGH THE CAR WASH. YEAH, YEAH. AND THAT MIGHT EVEN BE ANOTHER OPTION. SEAN. YOU MIGHT PRESENT TO THEM AS DO A HORSE WASH. YEAH, YEAH. SO ANYWAY, THESE GUYS HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB. AND I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT, I THINK MORE OF OUR DEVELOPERS AND INDIVIDUALS SHOULD BE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITIES AND PROVIDING AMENITIES THAT'S GOING TO BE BLEND IN WITH THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND TRY TO KEEP THAT RURAL FEEL ESPECIALLY, I MEAN, LET'S FACE IT, SANTA VALLEY HAS GROWN BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS HAD THAT RURAL FEEL. AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO SOMEHOW KEEP THAT IN THAT COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AS PRESENTED WITH NO STIPULATIONS. I HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND? THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I, I, I OPPOSED HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES FOR ITEM NUMBER NINE. I GET A MOTION PLEASE. MR. CHAIR. MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER NINE AS PRESENTED WITH 17 STIPULATIONS. I HAVE A MOTION AS YOUR SECOND, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I OPPOSED HEARING NONE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM

[10. Discussion of Board Members' request for future agenda item(s) and/or reports to be presented at upcoming meetings. (Jeffrey McClure)]

NUMBER TEN, WHICH IS A DISCUSSION OF BOARD MEMBERS REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT THE BOARD WISHES TO PUT FORTH ON FUTURE AGENDA? SUPERVISOR MILLER I DON'T KNOW. I REALLY DO THINK WE NEED TO BRING FORTH THE THE DOLLARS AND CENTS THAT ARE BEING SPENT IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A. CERTAINLY I DON'T SEE IT AS AN ACTION ITEM, BUT I DO SEE IT AS A REPORT BECAUSE NOW IT'S IT'S BREAKING DOWN INTO. WE'RE WE'RE PAYING OUR COUNTY FEES, ATTORNEY FEES, AND WE'RE PAYING HIS COUNTY ATTORNEY FEES. AND NOW WE'RE HAVING TO HIRE OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO COVER VACANCIES WITHIN THE CIVIL DIVISION. I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO, TO, TO DIVE INTO THIS. SO THE PUBLIC DOES DOES KNOW WHAT IT'S COSTING US. TO JUST TO DO BUSINESS. I MEAN, THESE COUNTY ATTORNEY OFFICES ARE VERY, VERY BUSY. WE HAVE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM GRANTS AND CONTRACTS. AND, AND NOW WE'RE, WE'RE SHORT ON STAFF, ON TRYING TO EVEN KEEP REGULAR BUSINESS GOING. AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT'S COSTING US. OKAY, OKAY. ANY OTHER ITEMS? OKAY. HEARING, SEEING NONE.

THERE IS

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